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[FluffyCalico]

Yes, I'm set in my opinion, because it happens to be right. .

Sorry an opinion is never write or wrong. Facts are true or false. Opinion is something everyone gets to have as they are NEVER right or wrong.

"Opinions can be persuasive, but only the facts they are based on can be said to be true or false."

[Tanka]

Sorry an opinion is never write or wrong.

"I hold the opinion that the Earth is flat."

You're saying that isn't an incorrect opinion?

[FluffyCalico]

"I hold the opinion that the Earth is flat."

You're saying that isn't an incorrect opinion?

You didn't say the world was flat you said that you believe it is. And as long as you do believe it is flat then the opinion is valid. A valid opinion does not mean the fact or assumption it's based on is true or that it's the only valid opinion from those facts.

"An opinion is a belief that may or may not be backed up with evidence, but which cannot be proved with that evidence. An opinion is normally a subjective statement and may be the result of an emotion or an interpretation of facts; people may draw opposing opinions from the same facts."

[Tanka]

You didn't say the world was flat you said that you believe it is. And as long as you do believe it is flat then the opinion is valid. A valid opinion does not mean the fact or assumption it's based on it true.

Incorrect. The opinion is not valid. Not all opinions are created equal.

[FluffyCalico]

Incorrect. The opinion is not valid. Not all opinions are created equal.

Again "An opinion is a belief that may or may not be backed up with evidence, but which cannot be proved with that evidence. An opinion is normally a subjective statement and may be the result of an emotion or an interpretation of facts; people may draw opposing opinions from the same facts."

Try using a dictionary sometime. All you and AD are doing is proving beoynd any doubt why so many people are getting mad. Stop trying to pretend that your alls opinions matter and noone elses do. All you are doing is invalidating all your posts. And just because the 4 of you always watch out for each other doesn't make the opinion anymore valid than anyone elses, it just means you have 3 friends trying to make it look that way.

[Tanka]

All you are doing is invalidating all your posts.

If that's your opinion, it's wrong.

[Lewcipher]

An opinion without pi is just an onion. Whatever that means

[FluffyCalico]

An opinion without pi is just an onion. Whatever that means

Finally someone who knows what an opinion is. /agree

[Angelus_dead]

Sorry an opinion is never write or wrong. Facts are true or false. Opinion is something everyone gets to have as they are NEVER right or wrong.

In my opinion, I'm taller than you.

[FluffyCalico]

In my opinion, I'm taller than you.

Since I don't know how tall you are and you don't know how tall I am this would work.

If we both had confirmation of how tall the other was then we would have a fact that could be verified and not disputed by those of resonable thinking.

[Lewcipher]

Besides...it's a prepositional phrase. Man, you should have said "In my onion". Sounds so much better.

[Tanka]

where your point is dead.

Quoted for hilarity.

[Angelus_dead]

Putting "in my opinion" in front of a fact does not in fact make it an opinion. I know you knew this before you did it. Stop intentionally trying to sidetrack any discussion where your point is dead.

Ok, wow.

There is no way I can respond to someone who'd say that.

[FluffyCalico]

My fav thing about these things is anytime 4 people don't get a thread going the way they want they drag it out into space to make sure it ends. Got to love a thread where only 4 people can ever express their onions as thier opinions are the only ones that are "right"

[Angelus_dead]

I occasionally see someone state "It's my opinion, so it can't be wrong".

And I have to wonder: "How can those people function in the world?" Specifically, how can they function in a domain of creative, aethetic works like literature, cinema, or video games? If you don't believe an opinion can be defended, then you deny the possibility that one work could be better or worse than another.

Is Watchmen better than The Dark Knight? How about Superman Returns? How about Ghost Rider? According to those people, that's an unknowable mystery.

And if you have no way to believe that one game is better than another, the entire concept of suggesting improvements to a game is meaningless.

[Angelus_dead]

My fav thing about these things is anytime 4 people don't get a thread going the way they want they drag it out into space to make sure it ends. Got to love a thread where only 4 people can ever express their onions as thier opinions are the only ones that are "right"

If someone feels I have been in error, they could go ahead and explain where I'm wrong. That might be helpful.

What's not helpful is to attack the whole principle that a correct answer even exists, by calling for every opinion to be equally valued. The ones who come in and dispute the very concept of right or wrong are the ones who derail threads.

[vtecfiend99]

I occasionally see someone state "It's my opinion, so it can't be wrong".

And I have to wonder: "How can those people function in the world?" Specifically, how can they function in a domain of creative, aethetic works like literature, cinema, or video games? If you don't believe an opinion can be defended, then you deny the possibility that one work could be better or worse than another.

Is Watchmen better than The Dark Knight? How about Superman Returns? How about Ghost Rider? According to those people, that's an unknowable mystery.

And if you have no way to believe that one game is better than another, the entire concept of suggesting improvements to a game is meaningless.

So you're telling me that if someone prefers one of those movies over... say the one that YOU think is the best, they are then wrong? Really man, for your own sake please pull you head out of that cave on your hind quarters.

[vtecfiend99]

If someone feels I have been in error, they could go ahead and explain where I'm wrong. That might be helpful.

What's not helpful is to attack the whole principle that a correct answer even exists, by calling for every opinion to be equally valued. The ones who come in and dispute the very concept of right or wrong are the ones who derail threads.

But this is something that YOU DO frequently...

[FluffyCalico]

If someone feels I have been in error, they could go ahead and explain where I'm wrong. That might be helpful.

What's not helpful is to attack the whole principle that a correct answer even exists, by calling for every opinion to be equally valued. The ones who come in and dispute the very concept of right or wrong are the ones who derail threads.

Was not disputing that there is a correct answer. I was pointing out that correct answers are facts not opinions. Everyone gets their opinion including you and me and him or her. Collecting data and getting almost all reasonble thinking people to agree on an answer makes it a fact. Where the issue is when an opinion with little fact and little agreement between anyone is claimed to be the "right one"

An important part of comming up with a solution or a fact is letting everyone imput their opinions. Even if you think someone's opinion is stupid it needs to be allowed to be stated and considered instead of spazzed on.

[Hadrian]

Was not disputing that there is a correct answer. I was pointing out that correct answers are facts not opinions. Everyone gets their opinion including you and me and him or her. Collecting data and getting almost all reasonble thinking people to agree on an answer makes it a fact. Where the issue is when an opinion with little fact and little agreement between anyone is claimed to be the "right one"

An important part of comming up with a solution or a fact is letting everyone imput their opinions. Even if you think someone's opinion is stupid it needs to be allowed to be stated and considered instead of spazzed on.

It can be let go. We've had a chance to share our thoughts. If the developers should decide to read all of this, we can trust that they're intelligent enough people not to be swayed away from sensible arguments by these tactics.

If they read all of these posts, they can still consider our opinions even if others will not. That is all that really matters.