master mechanic rogue build.

[Deaths_ward]

You could always aim for the 18 Wiz/2 Rogue style.

So far at 1 Rogue/7 Wizard I haven't found an elite trap in an at level quest I can't disarm, and I'm not using any skill buff items, just heroism and skill boost 1. You're basically an epic level trap monkey with Fire Wall to boot.

[Maxelcat]

*sighs*

see... here is the real problem as i see it.

statements like "No More Trap Monkeys" and "Build a REAL Rouge with DPS"

you might as well as the Wizerd to put away his book and tank up as well.

and what the hell is this about crappy ranged damage?

a rouge with the Precise Shot can stand behind the fighter(shield) wall and BACK STAB AT RANGE...

and that's with a "trap monkey build" (and have a good kill count)

though, most people that want a DPS Rouge in the party don't use good tactics.

[Acers13]

Man some of you guys are just crazy. And some of you just under estimate the rogue. I have a level 15 rogue master mechanic (customized version) And i can do great DPS with a repeater. Repeaters have a fairly decent crit range (10%) and especially since i got the Improved Critical: Ranged Feat which doubles it (20%). And With the other crit improvement feat (can't remember the name) you can get a +4 on crits. Then get Precise Shot and with the right bow (in my case a +5 Thundering Icy Burst Enfeebling and Force Critical) you can deal out major damage at multiple enemies at a time. I only wish that Subtle Backstabbing worked for ranged combat and not only melee combat. My stats are - Str:10 Dex:22 Con:16 Int:26 Wis:10 Cha:15 - DD:49 OL:34 Search&Spot:37 Repair:30 Hide&MoveSilently:30 UMD:20. Hopefully Master Mechanics will be needed more in the future, but for now they are still useful and can DPS more than one would think. Sincerely, Tragodia (tragedy) Lvl 15 Rogue Server: Cannith

[Inspire]

Man some of you guys are just crazy.

Look at the OP date.

[shablala]

He's playing the wrong game to do that. He needs to play something like Everquest to make a real DPS rogue.

:P

A pure Assassin rogue is arguably the highest DPS on non-SA immune.
I would also add, if your rogue is not first and foremost a DPS melee, then it is a waste of spot.

[Illiain]

Rogues in other games are balanced to do superior DPS far more than rogues in this game. You obviously haven't played the class in other games.

See, I can make posts like you!

Because the 6hp/level couldn't possibly be a balance factor. 120base hps for 20 levels of rogue and for that you get 17d6+20SA (24 for halfling).

[lobode]

*sighs*

see... here is the real problem as i see it.

statements like "No More Trap Monkeys" and "Build a REAL Rouge with DPS"

you might as well as the Wizerd to put away his book and tank up as well.

and what the hell is this about crappy ranged damage?

a rouge with the Precise Shot can stand behind the fighter(shield) wall and BACK STAB AT RANGE...

and that's with a "trap monkey build" (and have a good kill count)

though, most people that want a DPS Rouge in the party don't use good tactics.

Its called a rogue, rouge is a color and a type of makeup.

A "DPS" rogue will out kill you and get all the traps you can get.

[Durlomp]

The thing is, trap-monkeys suck.

How many traps are there at endgame right now? 2: The one in rainbow, and the one in VoD.

Now, what does your rogue do for the rest of the time? Shoot out with medeocre ranged damage (which already is substandard).?

If you want a decent rogue build with traps, try WotA II (Way of the Assasin) which, as long as you are sneaking, gives capability for an 8-second cooldown death attack (DC 10 + int + 1/2 of leve), as well as some damage boosters.

However, if you are bent on making a rogue like the one you have said, drop your wisdom to 10, int to 15 and raise con by 3, and cha by 1.

Use rapiers if you are going melee, and heavy repeaters if you are going ranged

Skills: The usual: Search, Spot, DD, OL, UMD; with balance, tumble, etc.
Feats: (Ranged)*: Heavy Repeater Proficiency; Rapid Reload; IC: Ranged; SF: UMD; Precise Short; Improved Precise Shot (switch your feats around once you can no longer take the toughness enhancements while wearing a minos)
Feats: (TWF): Weapon Finesse; TWF; iTWF; gTWF; IC: Pierce; SF: UMD.

If you want to go ranged still, take 2 ranger levels for Bow Strength and favored enemy, as well as ability to use wands.

If you want melee DPS, with less focus on assasinate, take 1 or 2 levels of fighter (Take toughness and/or another SF with your spare feats)

Also, always raise your DEX at each level, and be a halfling.

*Instead of PS and iPS, maybe try proficieny with a light repeater, and a toughness feat.

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Listen here budo trapmonkeys dont suck, the only problem is that you suck when playing one so dont go sayin stuff you have NO clue wut ur talkin about!

[bandyman1]

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Listen here budo trapmonkeys dont suck, the only problem is that you suck when playing one so dont go sayin stuff you have NO clue wut ur talkin about!

Option A) A mechanic trapmonkey rogue that deals nowhere near the DPS of an Assassin rogue, and can handle every trap in the game.

Option B) An assassin III rogue that deals DPS on-par with the highest DPS builds in the game, and can handle every trap in the game except maybe one quest on elite difficulty.

You tell us which contributes more to a group and/or solo play.

[SableShadow]

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Listen here budo trapmonkeys dont suck, the only problem is that you suck when playing one so dont go sayin stuff you have NO clue wut ur talkin about!

[Dawnsfire]

So I guess no one wants to share a build with the OP

OP: Rogues aren't my thing unfortunately But I have never seen anyone go wrong using using one of Tihocan's builds. Hopefully someone will come along, ignore the epeen swap and compare and share a truly tricked out build. If somehow the tussling up thread has convinced you Assassin is best you can try this build. Happy adventuring!