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    Okay, not really a rant or anything, but something that I thought was awfully funny last night.

    I log in and get a "help us do ghola" tell/invite. So I join the group - 1 caster, 1 barb, 1 pally, 3 rogues (two of 'em hybrid).

    On my way there, someone says that it will be difficult with only 3 rogues. I think to myself... there's two capped chars here, everyone else is lvl 14 and up, running frickin GHOLA on hard? What's the difficulty there? I secretly wonder to myself if this will end up being a solo run with a bunch of pocket stones...

    One of the rogue hybrids mentions that he only sees one rogue (implying that the others are more like melee fighters). The pally replies with "I dunno, I see four squishies" (I assume the fourth was the sorc).

    After going through the first wing, it's obvious that the rogues aren't getting hit, the barb is self-healing (1 lvl sorc), and the pally (capped) is the squishie.

    We hadn't even gotten halfway through the quest when the pally died (for the second time), said "screw this no cleric", recalled and dropped. It might have been my comment that we should send a squishie to go fetch the pally (again).

    The remaining "squishies" finished the run without issue.

    /sigh (lol)

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    is the pally wearing armor made of cardboard? your group could probably do elite with all that umd in the party except maybe w/o the pally

    ok my own story to add, did a stormcleave elite run today on my L9 fighter. the party consisted of wiz, bard, barb, cleric and rog. barb, rog and bard were tremedously good at getting hit thou none died through out. wiz is competent and the cleric did a good job. so we finished ortadar and the crates, after getting my loot and not wanting the haste to go to waste, i charge down to the ogres and mino. instantly i hear a "leeeeerrrooooy" coming from the cleric. after dispatching all the mobs and the 4 giants round the corner, i replied "if that was referring to me, leroy doesnt have a 50 ac but i do". throughout the quest i needed less than 10 cures from the cleric. the barb otoh is a sponge

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    Yep had a fun situation on my acrobat a couple days back.

    LFM up for Raiyum Elite. Cleric and a rouge in party (both 16th) I click join and get a Im sorry I need someone who can do damage response. After convincing him that I can solo all three flagging quests and the pre-raid, I get an invite. (to his credit it didn't take very long)

    Before I could run out there, there was another cleric and two casters in party.

    I zoned in to raiyum and they are saying they are at the wiz king already, I made it to him just in time to click cleave and hit him on the run up before he was nuked by a sorc.

    Just kinda amusing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post
    Yep had a fun situation on my acrobat a couple days back.

    LFM up for Raiyum Elite. Cleric and a rouge in party (both 16th) I click join and get a Im sorry I need someone who can do damage response. After convincing him that I can solo all three flagging quests and the pre-raid, I get an invite. (to his credit it didn't take very long)

    Before I could run out there, there was another cleric and two casters in party.

    I zoned in to raiyum and they are saying they are at the wiz king already, I made it to him just in time to click cleave and hit him on the run up before he was nuked by a sorc.

    Just kinda amusing.
    Heh. Applied to an LFM for Devils on elite with my rogue. He outright owns that quest.

    Was denied because "the group is already squishy as hell".

    I shrugged my shoulders and solo'd it. Their group filled around the time I finished.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    Heh. Applied to an LFM for Devils on elite with my rogue. He outright owns that quest.

    Was denied because "the group is already squishy as hell".

    I shrugged my shoulders and solo'd it. Their group filled around the time I finished.
    there have been more than once that i brought 4 casters (2 were melee builds), 3-4 rogues into shroud. many times, i'd get a tell from some one "too many casters, not enough dps" or "too many rogues, we need barbs or rangers". seriously when the caster is tukaw (or many of the other standard melee casters) or the rog is davir (sneak attack ftw!), there isnt really an issue with dps. more than not those that send me the tells are usually the ones w/o the dps...... like a A&B barb
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    there have been more than once that i brought 4 casters (2 were melee builds), 3-4 rogues into shroud. many times, i'd get a tell from some one "too many casters, not enough dps" or "too many rogues, we need barbs or rangers". seriously when the caster is tukaw (or many of the other standard melee casters) or the rog is davir (sneak attack ftw!), there isnt really an issue with dps. more than not those that send me the tells are usually the ones w/o the dps...... like a A&B barb
    Pretty funny, especially when you consider the number of tempest rogues out there. Compared to a ranger, you're talking a difference of 1 or 2 points of damage per hit (due to the higher tier of favored enemy damage). Otherwise... same number of attacks, same swing rate, same weapons, same FE...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    Heh. Applied to an LFM for Devils on elite with my rogue. He outright owns that quest.

    Was denied because "the group is already squishy as hell".

    I shrugged my shoulders and solo'd it. Their group filled around the time I finished.
    You should have sent them a tell "ok, finished it solo do I qualify now?"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady_Draconus View Post
    You should have sent them a tell "ok, finished it solo do I qualify now?"
    it would be very hard for a rog to solo devils
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    is the pally wearing armor made of cardboard? your group could probably do elite with all that umd in the party except maybe w/o the pally
    I'm pretty sure most of the party members there could have solo'd elite without much issue. Which was why I was a bit confused with the pally's concern. (Only had hard open, which is why we were on that difficulty).

    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    ok my own story to add, did a stormcleave elite run today on my L9 fighter. the party consisted of wiz, bard, barb, cleric and rog. barb, rog and bard were tremedously good at getting hit thou none died through out. wiz is competent and the cleric did a good job. so we finished ortadar and the crates, after getting my loot and not wanting the haste to go to waste, i charge down to the ogres and mino. instantly i hear a "leeeeerrrooooy" coming from the cleric. after dispatching all the mobs and the 4 giants round the corner, i replied "if that was referring to me, leroy doesnt have a 50 ac but i do". throughout the quest i needed less than 10 cures from the cleric. the barb otoh is a sponge
    It's amazing just how effective AC can be low and mid-level content (or high content on norm). 50 is near godly below level 10, and it's a relatively easy number to hit (w/o raid loot) nowadays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aranticus View Post
    "if that was referring to me, leroy doesnt have a 50 ac but i do"
    It's been awhile since I've been in Azeroth, but IIRC, Leroy's got much higher AC than 50.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Snoggy View Post
    It's been awhile since I've been in Azeroth, but IIRC, Leroy's got much higher AC than 50.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    Okay, not really a rant or anything, but something that I thought was awfully funny last night.

    I log in and get a "help us do ghola" tell/invite. So I join the group - 1 caster, 1 barb, 1 pally, 3 rogues (two of 'em hybrid).

    On my way there, someone says that it will be difficult with only 3 rogues. I think to myself... there's two capped chars here, everyone else is lvl 14 and up, running frickin GHOLA on hard? What's the difficulty there? I secretly wonder to myself if this will end up being a solo run with a bunch of pocket stones...

    One of the rogue hybrids mentions that he only sees one rogue (implying that the others are more like melee fighters). The pally replies with "I dunno, I see four squishies" (I assume the fourth was the sorc).

    After going through the first wing, it's obvious that the rogues aren't getting hit, the barb is self-healing (1 lvl sorc), and the pally (capped) is the squishie.

    We hadn't even gotten halfway through the quest when the pally died (for the second time), said "screw this no cleric", recalled and dropped. It might have been my comment that we should send a squishie to go fetch the pally (again).

    The remaining "squishies" finished the run without issue.

    /sigh (lol)

    How on Earth did you find a PUG for Ghola-Fan that bad???
    I mean, really, last night even I, the one-man-party-wipe-king with only a wizard and a ranger, and I on my rogue no less , did GF in no time, mostly waiting at the end because we had additions to the party to try to get the mask (which did not drop on any of the levels N, H or E all of which we did because one of our toons needed xp as well as the favor. The only way I could tell we were on elite is that when I had to take a phone call, I actually died.
    I'll look you up next time we do this just to get the sour taste of gimped pally out of your mouth... *hmmm, maybe I could've put that in a different way....NAH! *
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    Well I think the real question is to zerg or not to zerg. I have made a point of making ALL my toons self sufficient. When running with my gaming buds everyone splits off and heads in their own direction to a quest objective. Which turns 30 min quest into 10 mins. Do we plan who goes where ?..... nope. We just run in and get it done. And its a blast to do. The problem with this is Pug runs who count on a cleric, caster...etc following ppl around helping them to be bad players and by that I mean not having your pots, wands, clickies and what nots. Not all team players are bad. Sometimes the party MUST act as a team. But if your coming to a quest unprepared expect to die.... a bunch. Not having a remove blindness pot when your blind, remove curse pot when cursed.. dead. Not having cure wands, scrolls, pots... dead. Not shopping with Qwijy ... broke. Its that ez.

    Here is a little thing I do on my frist toon that has a hard time healing himself... Grab ALL the mobs in quest and run to the nearest shrine I find that they can't keep me down! They may zap meh but I win.... they cant rez!

    Note its a blast to do this when everyone else is resting at the shrine!

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    Quote Originally Posted by neroist View Post
    Here is a little thing I do on my frist toon that has a hard time healing himself... Grab ALL the mobs in quest and run to the nearest shrine I find that they can't keep me down! They may zap meh but I win.... they cant rez!
    Hahahah, I love to do that!! There have been many a time where we technically have a wipe, but I'm at the shrine and can res repeatedly and get in one more swing/spell before they kill me again. Of course, I usually end up with a lot of broken gear and finish half naked, but eventually I do emerge victorious!

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    Note its a blast to do this when everyone else is resting at the shrine!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hordo View Post
    How on Earth did you find a PUG for Ghola-Fan that bad???
    Well, to be fair, only one member was bad. The others performed to expectations

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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    Well, to be fair, only one member was bad. The others performed to expectations
    I'm beginning to think I know this pally....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hordo View Post
    I'm beginning to think I know this pally....


    Ok yes its was Dimz

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    Quote Originally Posted by neroist View Post
    Ok yes its was Dimz
    I can TOTALLY see Dimz doing something like that. His Gimpiness is LEGENDARY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by neroist View Post
    Ok yes its was Dimz

    Nope not Dimz......This time....
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