Bowbarians and Frenzied Berzerker

[jarlaxle_dourden]

How does everyone feel the changes will affect Bowbarians?

Cleve and Great Cleve are not in our vocabularies so changes to that will not really impact Bowbarians.

Although I only have my bowbar up to level 4 I built it around the premise of the two crit enhancements helping me drop mobs before they ever made it to me.

I think I have to rethink the viability of this toon now.

Thoughts?

[valorik]

Frenzied bezerker is strongly invested in the feats power attack and cleave, neither of which can be used with bows, so I suggest another PRE for you bowbarians.

[Aspenor]

well if crit rage I and II are removed and there's no threat range booster, why would you play a bowbarian at all?

currently bowbarians are horrendously bugged with crit range anyway...this is like a direct nerf to this build.

PS i dont play one, nor do i really even know the details of the FB implementation in DDO, just a little bit of hearsay.

[Aeneas]

Maybe they'll be inspired to make deepwoods sniper a passive enhancement instead of a nearly worthless clicky with a huge feat and AP investment cost.

[hannika]

Maybe they'll be inspired to make deepwoods sniper a passive enhancement instead of a nearly worthless clicky with a huge feat and AP investment cost.

ya that'd be cool cuz as is it's pretty **** useless

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Mines only lvl 5 Brb3/Rgr2......but I've already lost interest in him.

I hadn't noticed any official changes that would hurt the original idea though. Brb14/Rgr2 @ lvl 16.

Still seems a viable build (assuming any ranged build is viable )

[Aspenor]

Mines only lvl 5 Brb3/Rgr2......but I've already lost interest in him.

I hadn't noticed any official changes that would hurt the original idea though. Brb14/Rgr2 @ lvl 16.

Still seems a viable build (assuming any ranged build is viable )

if it's official that crit rage I and II are taken out, what's the point of critting on a 19-20 with a bowbarian when you can be a ranger?

[bobbryan2]

if it's official that crit rage I and II are taken out, what's the point of critting on a 19-20 with a bowbarian when you can be a ranger?

Just thought I'd say it's not officially official, yet. Provided we haven't totally borked the translation, it just says it won't be able to be trained from this point, but we retain the abilities until we respec. That would still probably keep him alive... at least as alive as he is at the moment.

[jarlaxle_dourden]

if it's official that crit rage I and II are taken out, what's the point of critting on a 19-20 with a bowbarian when you can be a ranger?

That ability to enhance crit is vital to the build because bow crit range (20) sucks.

IMHO getting rid of the crit rage enhancements kills this build completely.

[Turial]

Maybe they'll be inspired to make deepwoods sniper a passive enhancement instead of a nearly worthless clicky with a huge feat and AP investment cost.

Interestingly enough if you make the +1 crit range and crit multiplier passive for DWS then bow DPS catches right up with one-handed fighting dps. Infact it stradles the one-handed dps with non-manyshot being on the low side and manyshot being just above.