jket

[beardmoreharley]

posting this here because he isnt accepting PM's lol


You still playing mate?
I was snooping around the forums trying to find an old bard build that i played a while back.
All i can remember about it, is that it was 4 rogue / 12 bard and kicked ass at the kill count, soloing moderate high level stuff (i zerged alot on it), had kick ass umd and could handle just about all the traps and locks in game.

I though it was one that you posted on the Khyber forums a long time ago but after half an hour or so of going through the really old posts i found it to see that it wasn't it, what i found was one you made 1 fighter / 2 rogue / 11 bard

you had some notes there about taking khopesh proficiency at level 16 but weren't really clear about it.

So ya if you know the build im talking about / had one like it (or a good pure bard khopesh zerger) it would be a ton of help, thanks man

[Aranticus]

hes got several toons ie trogbot, dimz, gurdash, etc. think he can no longer post in forums, look for him in game

[beardmoreharley]

oh thanks aranticus, geeze you been playing since launch? ive been playing ddo on and off since launch but usually come tot eh forums to see whats going on and always see you posting, also ill play on khyber now (my stepdad started playing when i last quit to play wow for a while) now hes got an account full of 16's and pretty famous on his server (im level 5 there and met 5 ppl that know him lol), so im gonna play there for awhile

[Boldrin]

Welcome to Khyber, for the most part we are zerging loot *****s, who love to raid. But generally we're nice to new players. If you're looking to make a battlebard may I suggest dwarf(you get dwarven axe feat free, and take a level or 2 of fighter, level or 2 of rogue if you feel the need. I Have a 421 HP dwarven fighter/ranger/bard that is so much fun to play. 14 bard 1 ranger 1 ftr atm, going 16/2/2 when cap increases

[Dimz]

posting this here because he isnt accepting PM's lol


You still playing mate?
I was snooping around the forums trying to find an old bard build that i played a while back.
All i can remember about it, is that it was 4 rogue / 12 bard and kicked ass at the kill count, soloing moderate high level stuff (i zerged alot on it), had kick ass umd and could handle just about all the traps and locks in game.

I though it was one that you posted on the Khyber forums a long time ago but after half an hour or so of going through the really old posts i found it to see that it wasn't it, what i found was one you made 1 fighter / 2 rogue / 11 bard

you had some notes there about taking khopesh proficiency at level 16 but weren't really clear about it.

So ya if you know the build im talking about / had one like it (or a good pure bard khopesh zerger) it would be a ton of help, thanks man

Hi!, yes that was me on my old account that posted that. (RIP). Anyways, Dwarf is a good choice, but I wouldn't recommended it for several reasons:

1) Dwarf Toughness is no longer as desirable with the new Racial Toughness Line.

2) Your going to want to pick up Khopesh anyway because of their end game superiority over dorf axe. So I recommend Human for extra feats, but not needed with fighter levels added on.

Overall, if your going by my old bard build there are many new changes I would advise. First off, skip the fighter levels. Second, end build should be 18 bard/2 rogue. Lastly, theres alot of things I would change now with the current game style. Here's the current build I would suggest.

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Dimz/Jket's Battle Bard
Level 16 True Neutral Human Male
(2 Rogue \ 14 Bard) 
Hit Points: 166
Spell Points: 513 
BAB: 11\11\16\21
Fortitude: 6
Reflex: 15
Will: 8

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength             17                 23                   24
Dexterity            13                 15                   16
Constitution         12                 14                   14
Intelligence          8                 10                   10
Wisdom                8                  8                    8
Charisma             16                 18                   22

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               6                 22                   22
Bluff                 4                  6                    6
Concentration         2                  2                    2
Diplomacy             4                  6                    6
Disable Device        4                  4                    4
Haggle                8                 24                   24
Heal                 -1                 -1                   -1
Hide                  2                  3                    3
Intimidate            4                  6                    6
Jump                  8                 25                   25
Listen               -1                 -1                   -1
Move Silently         2                  3                    3
Open Lock             6                  7                    7
Perform               n/a               24                   24
Repair                0                  0                    0
Search                4                 16                   16
Spot                 -1                 -1                   -1
Swim                  4                  7                    7
Tumble                6                 21                   21
Use Magic Device      8                 25                   25

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Human Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Rapier
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortsword
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Shortbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Trapfinding
Feat: (Automatic) Trip


Level 2 (Bard)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Perform (+5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Fascinate
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Courage
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Longsword
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds


Level 3 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Khopesh
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Spell (1): Focusing Chant


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+2)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Competence


Level 5 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Rage


Level 6 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
Spell (1): Grease
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds


Level 7 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Suggestion


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (3): Haste
Spell (3): Displacement


Level 9 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Inspire Courage


Level 10 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Inspire Greatness


Level 11 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Spell (4): Hold Monster


Level 13 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Song of Freedom


Level 14 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Spell (4): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Greater Heroism
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds


Level 15 (Bard)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Perform (+1)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Spell (5): Greater Dispel Magic


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Search (+7)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Attack I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Bravery II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage I
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage II
Enhancement: Bard Inspired Damage III
Enhancement: Bard Lingering Song I
Enhancement: Warchanter I
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Charisma II
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Strength I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Human Versatility III
Enhancement: Human Versatility IV
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Song II
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song I
Enhancement: Bard Lyric of Incredible Song II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic I
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic II
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic III
Enhancement: Bard Song Magic IV
Enhancement: Bard Charisma I
Enhancement: Bard Charisma II
Enhancement: Bard Charisma III
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I

Now, one small thing is maybe dropping quicken or extend for force of personality, which is not really needed.. if you have the slot for a wisdom item and wisdom tome, you can hit 16 wisdom. which would put you at a 12 will save with nothing on, add +4/+5 resist item, Greater hero, and head of good fortune for example and you can easily break 20 will save without Force of Personality, and be sitting at a 22,23,or 24 will save.

Just to be clear:
End Stat's with +6 items etc on with the enhancements:
Strength: 30 (32 with rage)
Dexterity: 22 (fit into delving suit)
Constitution: 20 (22 with rage)
Intelligence: 10
Wisdom: 8 (or 16 with Item on and +2 tome)
Charisma: 28

Hit points are a little low, you could just drop human versatility or something less used for racial toughness hp. As for this build your HP would be at 244 with Greater False Life no shroud item, all together though it would be very easy to hit 322 with no shroud item. So almost 400 with shroud item on. Not bad for a weakling human bard!


~Jket/Dimz