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    heres my updated version: pali 14/fighter 2
    str 16 +4 lvls +1ftr +6 item =27
    dex 10 +6 item = 16
    Con 16 +2wf +6 item =24
    int 10 (is 10 for skill ponts per lvl)
    wis 12 +6 item =18 (for will saves and lvl 4 spell(zeal))
    cha 12 +1tome(on hand atm)+3 pali +6item =22

    1(ftr)ady body,2hf (will be mainly greatsword/axe,and falchions mod 9 is coming, building for the future splash dmg)
    2-3(pali)slash focus
    4(ftr)power crit
    rest pali..
    6 improved 2hf
    9 improved crit slash
    12 greater 2hf
    15 power attack

    thats how it stacks up atm. I know how good evasion is but i want access to the lvl 4 spells (zeal/holy sword ect.). the only other feat i like to sneak in is toughness might excange for power crit. on the fighter lvls i'm going to foucus on jump and balance/repair, pali lvls on diplo and balance/heal/repair.
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    Hey bud,

    I have a level 12 WF pure paladin, and he is alot of fun to play. I'm really impressed with the DPS he puts out, plus the immunities being WF and pally are off the charts good. Saves are very high, and he has 342 hp atm. He uses greatswords, but I'm holding off on bladesworn because the ap cost is a bit high, so maybe I'll go that route towards lvl 18 or so. The Divine Sacrifice and Exalted Smites are amazing at times, and the LOH's are pretty darn good too. I'm really looking forward to seeing what level twenty brings, and with the new WF two handed fighting stuff coming out it will only get better. Here is my stats

    Starting stats were 16/8/16/8/12/14--Inhaled +2 Str/Dex/Con/Wis/Charisma tomes from the get go. I had been saving all my +2's for a paladin build. Saves atm with boots of the innocent are 30/19/21 HP-342 Feats are Toughness/Power Attack/Two Handed Fighting/Improved Two Handed Fighting/ and Greater Two Handed Fighting.

    Spell Points-194, which I hope to get higher with items/etc. I have access to Divine Might II atm, and get 9 uses a day. I get 6 uses of Exalted Smite which regens now, and crit for about 260 base dmg. on a good roll. Divine Sacrifice is hot-keyed and works as long as I have hp and sp left. It does about 120 base dmg. on a good roll, and the cooldown is really fast, it also increases the crit multiplier on my greatsword by one, which is really nice.

    I hope you WF pally is as fun as mine, cause I've really enjoyed em. I've tried other pally builds and was never successful, but this one seems to be working pretty darn good. The only drawback is low AC, but hopefully the DPS makes up for it. The LOH are a big help when you get the agro, and diplomacy. LOL, that's right I took diplomacy. I figured UMD would be cool and all, but diplo can be useful when you have drawn to much agro at one time. Gives you a chance to LOH yourself, btw my LOH heals me for 130 hp a pop, and I have 3 per rest. My diplo atm is a 21 without GH or anything else. So it helps sometimes.

    Good luck and good times to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hu-flung-pu View Post
    Starting stats. With a 32 point build he'd have a base 14 CON.

    18 STR
    8 DEX
    10 CON
    8 INT
    8 WIS
    14 CHA

    All level up points in to CHA, with a +1 tome you'll have enough for Divine Might 4 and super powerful lay on hands.
    If I remember correctly warforged get +2 con -2 wis -2 cha right? So you spent 16 build points in STR, 2 in WIS and 10 in CHA. Then you put level up points in CHA? That is suboptimal as has been pointed out. A better balance between STR and DM gives the same amount of damage but also a boost to attack bonus.


    Quote Originally Posted by Gum View Post
    Hey bud,
    Starting stats were 16/8/16/8/12/14--Inhaled +2 Str/Dex/Con/Wis/Charisma tomes from the get go. I had been saving all my +2's for a paladin build. Saves atm with boots of the innocent are 30/19/21 HP-342 Feats are Toughness/Power Attack/Two Weapon Fighting/Improved Two Weapon Fighting/ and Greater Two Weapon Fighting.

    Normally stats are expressed as STR/DEX/CON/INT/WIS/CHA if so that would make you have an 8 Dex... How do you get TWF feats with that as a score? Unless you meant THF?
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimlock30 View Post
    heres my updated version: pali 14/fighter 2
    str 16 +4 lvls +1ftr +6 item =27
    dex 10 +6 item = 16
    Con 16 +2wf +6 item =24
    int 10 (is 10 for skill ponts per lvl)
    wis 12 +6 item =18 (for will saves and lvl 4 spell(zeal))
    cha 12 +1tome(on hand atm)+3 pali +6item =22

    1(ftr)ady body,2hf (will be mainly greatsword/axe,and falchions mod 9 is coming, building for the future splash dmg)
    2-3(pali)slash focus
    4(ftr)power crit
    rest pali..
    6 improved 2hf
    9 improved crit slash
    12 greater 2hf
    15 power attack

    thats how it stacks up atm. I know how good evasion is but i want access to the lvl 4 spells (zeal/holy sword ect.). the only other feat i like to sneak in is toughness might excange for power crit. on the fighter lvls i'm going to foucus on jump and balance/repair, pali lvls on diplo and balance/heal/repair.
    Power crit is junk do not take it. On a non ftr (pure) a focus is not use full unless you are having a really hard time hiting in witch case a +1 is not going to help.

    Here are more stats also you are a paly a wf paly do not worry about will saves as for spells all you need is a 14 to cast zeal.

    16str+4+6=26+8+2(tome op)=28+9
    8dex+6=14+2
    16con+2+6=24+7+2(tome op)=26+8
    10int
    10wis+6=16+3+2(tome op)=18+4
    14cha+6+2=22+6+2(tome op)=24+7

    And feats pure paly.
    1st addy body
    3rd two handed fighting
    6ith power attack
    9ith imp thf
    12ith grt thf
    15ith imp crit s
    *18ith* toughness? or if will saves are really buging you fop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SteeleTrueheart View Post
    If I remember correctly warforged get +2 con -2 wis -2 cha right? So you spent 16 build points in STR, 2 in WIS and 10 in CHA. Then you put level up points in CHA? That is suboptimal as has been pointed out. A better balance between STR and DM gives the same amount of damage but also a boost to attack bonus.





    Normally stats are expressed as STR/DEX/CON/INT/WIS/CHA if so that would make you have an 8 Dex... How do you get TWF feats with that as a score? Unless you meant THF?
    Doh, yeah meant Two Handed Fighting. Changed, and thx
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    Quote Originally Posted by grimlock30 View Post
    on the fighter lvls i'm going to foucus on jump and balance/repair, pali lvls on diplo and balance/heal/repair.
    Why dipo and heal? sorta pointless on a combat build...would be better to take intm even if its CC.

    9.5ranks
    6 cha
    1luck voice
    15item
    --------
    31
    5gh
    1 prayer
    3bardsong(more less ? i don't mem what it does all the way)
    40

    Or with one lev of ftr
    19ranks
    6cha
    1 luck voice
    15item
    --------
    41
    5gh
    1 prayer
    3bard song
    50

    not uber but decent.
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    OK I´m a bit short on time so I don´t have the final #´s for HP´s, SP´S, AC and such, but you wanted:

    Warforged - Bladesworn - Evasion - THF, and whatever else could be fitted in.

    This is a very similar build to Mechangel my WF Evasion Paladin.

    Quick Notes:

    * When Minos equipped replace Toughness feat with GTHF. (yes it may get "fixed"....)
    * I used a few +2 Tomes because they are easily tradeable, obtained, IF you can start with a +2 INT then drop INT to 10 and use the extra point in another Stat.

    - 40 base Intimidate with HOGF and +15 Item.
    - 388 HP´s Non-Greensteel item.
    - 29 STR with +2 Tome
    - 27 UMD with HOGF.
    - Get Spectral Gloves and Leviks Bracers as a Must Have to make best gear arrangement possible.

    Option A: Rogue 2 Evasion - best for Intimidate and UMD.
    End Build: 16 Paladin 2 Fighter 2 Rogue or 14 Paladin 4 Fighter 2Rogue. (I prefer 16 Paladin 2F 2 R)

    Option B: Monk Evasion - best for additional Feats, +3 AC, but Skills penalized.
    End Build 16 Paladin 2 Fighter 2 Monk.


    Here goes:
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    EvDPSMech 
    Level 16 Lawful Good Warforged Male
    (2 Fighter \ 12 Paladin \ 2 Rogue) 
    Hit Points: 300 - Ending: 388
    Spell Points: 115 Ending: about 325?
    BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
    Fortitude: 22 - Ending : 31
    Reflex: 15 - Ending: 24
    Will: 10 - Ending: 19 (W/out Racial Enhancements)
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
    Strength             16                    22
    Dexterity            12                    15
    Constitution         16                    20
    Intelligence         11                    12
    Wisdom                9                    10
    Charisma             12                    16
    
    Tomes Used
    +1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
    +1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
    +2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
    +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
    +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
    +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
    Balance               5                     4
    Bluff                 1                     3
    Concentration         3                     5
    Diplomacy             1                     3
    Disable Device        2                     2
    Haggle                1                     3
    Heal                  0                     0
    Hide                  1                     0
    Intimidate            5                    20
    Jump                  7                    15
    Listen                0                     0
    Move Silently         1                     0
    Open Lock             5                     7
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                4                     4
    Search                4                     4
    Spot                  1                     1
    Swim                  3                     2
    Tumble                5                     4
    Use Magic Device      5                    22
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Mithral Body
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 3 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 4 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 5 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 6 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    
    
    Level 7 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 8 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Selected) Toughness
    
    
    Level 10 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 11 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
    Enhancement: Paladin Saves Boost I
    Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
    Enhancement: Bladesworn Transformation
    Enhancement: Follower of the Lord of Blades
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
    Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
    Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
    Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
    Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
    Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
    Enhancement: Fighter Jump I
    Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
    Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
    Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
    Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
    Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
    Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
    Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking I
    Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking II
    Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
    Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
    Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
    Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II
    Lemme know what you think.

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