WF bladesworn build idea

[grimlock30]

Here's my first draft of a warforged bladesworn pali. stats are (32 build)...
Str 16
Dex 10
Con 16
Int 10
Wiz 12
Cha 12

Feats
1 admantine body
2(fighter) toughness
3 power attack
6 cleave
9 imp. crit slashing
12 extend
15 imp. dr or Mental toughness

Will be a 2handed weapon fighter using greatswords,falchions,great axe ect. trying to be a self seficent build using layon hands to heal self (no reducion on wf ).

questions i have.. is lay on hands improved with the devotion enhancements or in the wf case sould i foucus more on repair? also could i use LOH when in blade form?

any coments,creative input welcome...

[nbhs275]

Here's my first draft of a warforged bladesworn pali. stats are (32 build)...
Str 16
Dex 10
Con 16
Int 10
Wiz 12
Cha 12

Feats
1 admantine body
2(fighter) toughness
3 power attack
6 cleave
9 imp. crit slashing
12 extend
15 imp. dr or Mental toughness

Will be a 2handed weapon fighter using greatswords,falchions,great axe ect. trying to be a self seficent build using layon hands to heal self (no reducion on wf ).

questions i have.. is lay on hands improved with the devotion enhancements or in the wf case sould i foucus more on repair? also could i use LOH when in blade form?

any coments,creative input welcome...

First thing, drop Cleave. Its fun for a little while, but really isnt worth its weight. Second, forget about IMP. DR complete waste. As is mental toughness, you should have enough SP from items and base alone to handle your needs.


Next thing, is drop int. Your not getting CE, and you dont have any skills your gunna need. Drop Wis down. You need a 14 for lvl 4 spells min, so even an 8 base is enough, 10 being probably the most you should put into it.

Think about your Dex, on an addy build. Max dex is naturally 1. Which means a base 8 could fill that out with ease.

Now how much fighter are you looking at? Little? Alot? You might wanna consider an extreme splash. Something along the lines of 12pally/6fighter/2 monk. Monk because evasion is far more important then any AC your gunna get from addy when THF. IF thats the case, for lvl 20 as a DPS build you should be looking at

34/44 Str(18 base +5 lvl +2 tome +2 enhn +1 insight +6 item)(+4 madstone +4 bladesworn +2 rage)
18 Dex(10 base +6 item +2 Tome)
26 Con(16 base +6 item +2 tome +2 enhancment)
8 Int
16 Wis(8 base +6 item +2 tome)
20 Cha(12 base +6 item +2 tome)

Featwise, you would need to take THF, ITHF, GTHF, WF: Slashing, WS: Slashing, IC: Slashing, extend, PA, toughness. That would leave you with another 2 potential fighter feats, and 2 monk feats to play with.

A single swing hit would be something like

3d6
+16PA
+4WS
+3DF
+2DM
+4BS
+25 STR
+5 WPN
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62-77, 216-261 crit.

[grimlock30]

i was hoping to stay as close to pure pali as possible (for future prestige when it comes). but i'm not against a 2to 4 fighter splash for the bounus feats/enhancements.

I was staying away from the 2handed weapon feats due to the fourm talk that these feats are weak(compared to 2weapon fighting). just don't know how effective the glancing hits would be?

nice to see the dps potental of the build

[Dungnmaster001]

I was staying away from the 2handed weapon feats due to the fourm talk that these feats are weak(compared to 2weapon fighting). just don't know how effective the glancing hits would be?

Well a point to keep in mind is that the 2HF feats will in mod 9 allow for a chance of special weapon effects to apply on glancing blows. This should increase their usefulness a bit. Also in mod 9 WF will be getting a 2handed weapon enhancement set that will increase it further.

[hu-flung-pu]

As was mentioned Mod 9 makes the two handed fighting feats worth it, not to mention it vastly increases your damage output with splash damage.

Unless things changed, you don't get evasion in heavy armor. So that means Mihral which means high DEX which means low stat distribution points.

I'm runnin' a pure paladin that's warforged, he's a monster, the only melee class that BARELY outkills him are tempest rangers, who just flat out run faster then I do.

Starting stats. With a 32 point build he'd have a base 14 CON.

18 STR
8 DEX
10 CON
8 INT
8 WIS
14 CHA

All level up points in to CHA, with a +1 tome you'll have enough for Divine Might 4 and super powerful lay on hands.

Adamantine Body, Power Attack, Toughness, Improved critical Slashing, Two handed fighting, and Improved two handed fighting. Those enhancements with warforged power attack really turn up the damage done. Especially when you smite, and get even higher splash damage on the smite swing.

And when you're in the bladesworn transformation, the only thing that heals you are repair spells and lay on hands, and you lose all spell casting ability, so use that as your last buff.

His smites are through the roof with a great axe for a x5 critical hit multiplier with exalted smite 3, with Warforged power attack 3, and two handed damage boost, you'll see smites just get stupid when you one hit bad guys with a critical smite and think; "is that it?"

Combine warforged brute fighting with divine righteousness for even higher aggro, eliminating the need for intimidate against bosses.

A splash of Fighter would be alright if you REALLY want Intimidate, just don't neglect your balance skill. Nothing sucks worse when you get tripped up and are stuck on your back for 30 seconds.

[nbhs275]

As was mentioned Mod 9 makes the two handed fighting feats worth it, not to mention it vastly increases your damage output with splash damage.

Unless things changed, you don't get evasion in heavy armor. So that means Mihral which means high DEX which means low stat distribution points.

I'm runnin' a pure paladin that's warforged, he's a monster, the only melee class that BARELY outkills him are tempest rangers, who just flat out run faster then I do.

Starting stats. With a 32 point build he'd have a base 14 CON.

18 STR
8 DEX
10 CON
8 INT
8 WIS
14 CHA

All level up points in to CHA, with a +1 tome you'll have enough for Divine Might 4 and super powerful lay on hands.

Adamantine Body, Power Attack, Toughness, Improved critical Slashing, Two handed fighting, and Improved two handed fighting. Those enhancements with warforged power attack really turn up the damage done. Especially when you smite, and get even higher splash damage on the smite swing.

And when you're in the bladesworn transformation, the only thing that heals you are repair spells and lay on hands, and you lose all spell casting ability, so use that as your last buff.

His smites are through the roof with a great axe for a x5 critical hit multiplier with exalted smite 3, with Warforged power attack 3, and two handed damage boost, you'll see smites just get stupid when you one hit bad guys with a critical smite and think; "is that it?"

Combine warforged brute fighting with divine righteousness for even higher aggro, eliminating the need for intimidate against bosses.

A splash of Fighter would be alright if you REALLY want Intimidate, just don't neglect your balance skill. Nothing sucks worse when you get tripped up and are stuck on your back for 30 seconds.

Divine Might 4? when did your math skills die? With a 14 base, (way more then you should put in) and a +2 tome, your looking at DM 2, and put your level stats into str. Your going to need the strength to keep your attack bonus as high as possible when PA is a -8 tohit.

[CSFurious]

are you serious? "BARELY", that makes me shake my head in amazement

my warchanter will out-kill you

you ever hear of rogues? barbarians?

you lose all credibility with statements like this

I'm runnin' a pure paladin that's warforged, he's a monster, the only melee class that BARELY outkills him are tempest rangers, who just flat out run faster then I do.

[grimlock30]

heres my updated version: pali 14/fighter 2
str 16 +4 lvls +1ftr +6 item =27
dex 10 +6 item = 16
Con 16 +2wf +6 item =24
int 10 (is 10 for skill ponts per lvl)
wis 12 +6 item =18 (for will saves and lvl 4 spell(zeal))
cha 12 +1tome(on hand atm)+3 pali +6item =22

1(ftr)ady body,2hf (will be mainly greatsword/axe,and falchions mod 9 is coming, building for the future splash dmg)
2-3(pali)slash focus
4(ftr)power crit
rest pali..
6 improved 2hf
9 improved crit slash
12 greater 2hf
15 power attack

thats how it stacks up atm. I know how good evasion is but i want access to the lvl 4 spells (zeal/holy sword ect.). the only other feat i like to sneak in is toughness might excange for power crit. on the fighter lvls i'm going to foucus on jump and balance/repair, pali lvls on diplo and balance/heal/repair.

[Silverjade]

heres my updated version: pali 14/fighter 2
str 16 +4 lvls +1ftr +6 item =27
dex 10 +6 item = 16
Con 16 +2wf +6 item =24
int 10 (is 10 for skill ponts per lvl)
wis 12 +6 item =18 (for will saves and lvl 4 spell(zeal))
cha 12 +1tome(on hand atm)+3 pali +6item =22

1(ftr)ady body,2hf (will be mainly greatsword/axe,and falchions mod 9 is coming, building for the future splash dmg)
2-3(pali)slash focus
4(ftr)power crit
rest pali..
6 improved 2hf
9 improved crit slash
12 greater 2hf
15 power attack

thats how it stacks up atm. I know how good evasion is but i want access to the lvl 4 spells (zeal/holy sword ect.). the only other feat i like to sneak in is toughness might excange for power crit. on the fighter lvls i'm going to foucus on jump and balance/repair, pali lvls on diplo and balance/heal/repair.

Power crit is junk do not take it. On a non ftr (pure) a focus is not use full unless you are having a really hard time hiting in witch case a +1 is not going to help.

Here are more stats also you are a paly a wf paly do not worry about will saves as for spells all you need is a 14 to cast zeal.

16str+4+6=26+8+2(tome op)=28+9
8dex+6=14+2
16con+2+6=24+7+2(tome op)=26+8
10int
10wis+6=16+3+2(tome op)=18+4
14cha+6+2=22+6+2(tome op)=24+7

And feats pure paly.
1st addy body
3rd two handed fighting
6ith power attack
9ith imp thf
12ith grt thf
15ith imp crit s
*18ith* toughness? or if will saves are really buging you fop.

[Silverjade]

on the fighter lvls i'm going to foucus on jump and balance/repair, pali lvls on diplo and balance/heal/repair.

Why dipo and heal? sorta pointless on a combat build...would be better to take intm even if its CC.

9.5ranks
6 cha
1luck voice
15item
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31
5gh
1 prayer
3bardsong(more less ? i don't mem what it does all the way)
40

Or with one lev of ftr
19ranks
6cha
1 luck voice
15item
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41
5gh
1 prayer
3bard song
50

not uber but decent.

[Dexxaan]

OK I´m a bit short on time so I don´t have the final #´s for HP´s, SP´S, AC and such, but you wanted:

Warforged - Bladesworn - Evasion - THF, and whatever else could be fitted in.

This is a very similar build to Mechangel my WF Evasion Paladin.

Quick Notes:

* When Minos equipped replace Toughness feat with GTHF. (yes it may get "fixed"....)
* I used a few +2 Tomes because they are easily tradeable, obtained, IF you can start with a +2 INT then drop INT to 10 and use the extra point in another Stat.

- 40 base Intimidate with HOGF and +15 Item.
- 388 HP´s Non-Greensteel item.
- 29 STR with +2 Tome
- 27 UMD with HOGF.
- Get Spectral Gloves and Leviks Bracers as a Must Have to make best gear arrangement possible.

Option A: Rogue 2 Evasion - best for Intimidate and UMD.
End Build: 16 Paladin 2 Fighter 2 Rogue or 14 Paladin 4 Fighter 2Rogue. (I prefer 16 Paladin 2F 2 R)

Option B: Monk Evasion - best for additional Feats, +3 AC, but Skills penalized.
End Build 16 Paladin 2 Fighter 2 Monk.


Here goes:

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EvDPSMech 
Level 16 Lawful Good Warforged Male
(2 Fighter \ 12 Paladin \ 2 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 300 - Ending: 388
Spell Points: 115 Ending: about 325?
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 22 - Ending : 31
Reflex: 15 - Ending: 24
Will: 10 - Ending: 19 (W/out Racial Enhancements)

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             16                    22
Dexterity            12                    15
Constitution         16                    20
Intelligence         11                    12
Wisdom                9                    10
Charisma             12                    16

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 1
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               5                     4
Bluff                 1                     3
Concentration         3                     5
Diplomacy             1                     3
Disable Device        2                     2
Haggle                1                     3
Heal                  0                     0
Hide                  1                     0
Intimidate            5                    20
Jump                  7                    15
Listen                0                     0
Move Silently         1                     0
Open Lock             5                     7
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                4                     4
Search                4                     4
Spot                  1                     1
Swim                  3                     2
Tumble                5                     4
Use Magic Device      5                    22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Mithral Body


Level 2 (Paladin)


Level 3 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack


Level 4 (Paladin)


Level 5 (Paladin)


Level 6 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave


Level 7 (Paladin)


Level 8 (Paladin)


Level 9 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 10 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell


Level 13 (Paladin)


Level 14 (Paladin)


Level 15 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting


Level 16 (Paladin)
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Paladin Saves Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Bladesworn Transformation
Enhancement: Follower of the Lord of Blades
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Bulwark of Good III
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good I
Enhancement: Paladin Resistance of Good II
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Righteousness I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice I
Enhancement: Paladin Divine Sacrifice II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands I
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Lay on Hands II
Enhancement: Paladin Extra Smite Evil I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Jump I
Enhancement: Rogue Open Lock I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma I
Enhancement: Paladin Charisma II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness I
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness II
Enhancement: Paladin Toughness III
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution I
Enhancement: Warforged Constitution II
Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking I
Enhancement: Warforged Construct Thinking II
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend I
Enhancement: Warforged Healer's Friend II
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack I
Enhancement: Warforged Power Attack II

Lemme know what you think.

I´ve gotta run. Later Grimlock.