what's your caster's ac?

[TheMoose]

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Not trying to be too inflammatory, but really, who cares what the AC on a caster is?

Why not? Think about it... heck if your crazy enough you add some intimidate on it with high ac...

Drop a nasty fire wall, turtle up and intim everything right into the firewall...or better yet.. a cloud kill!!!!

[spartin]

Sounds like got melee caster there, I would never melee anything with my caster because I would get bored, second shamans don't usually try to hit with melee weapons so no idea what they matter for saying 59ac does not matter, yes with that much ac can take little better beating, if fits your style more power to you. To me not worth the dex score and trouble you have place in it, I like instant kill spells and have blast so need to max my cha or int score to do it. Also my caster likes his 301hp so tend to trend away from the trouble collecting ac gear. It does not impress me you built a toon with 59ac that a caster. If you are so proud of your build please post it, some others might like to play one. Otherwise I can careless. I know its possible to build casters with higher AC then that, do not have clue what your thread is suppose to be about though if do not post your build p. Although just guessing what your caster is since you did not give much information, there at least three to four other ways beside what listed below to build a Ac caster.

Ac caster if you want
elf
20dex +4 for levels +3 tome+ 2 elf +6 item=35 so get shroud item +3 dex, 38 dex +14 to ac, icy raiment +4 dodge bonus, +1 al. bonus, +1 dodge feat, +3 chattering ring, +4 shield spell, +5 prot item, +3 bark potions or item, +4 shroud weapon, +8 armor bracers, +7 shield, now wearing the shield and two shroud item not possible, so we have take off +2 for dex,

so math time
10base
12dex - because shield gives better ac,
4 IR
1 alchemist
1DF
3CR
4SS
5PI
3BP or item
4SW
8AB
7S
grand total= 62ac, did not add combat expertise, because u said it was a caster not a fighter/caster. that could boost you to 67ac self buffed ). So please tell again what the point of this thread is?? Show use your build that your so impress with, I do warn you though some can get a bit critical on the threads, but please stop these oh look ac my caster has blah blah blah, or I can get this ac on my blah blah blah, if want to share a build, I understand that and do like more knowledge, but a thread about I can get my ac to blah blah blah, means nothing to me.

speaking of being critical, i didnt know shield spell and shield stacked! gonna have to start umd'ing wands on my S&B pally, 80 AC here i come!

[Desteria]

speaking of being critical, i didnt know shield spell and shield stacked! gonna have to start umd'ing wands on my S&B pally, 80 AC here i come!

theyt should not if they do it;s a bug.

[sephiroth1084]

ac of 59

How?

[winsom]

My wizard's AC = 50% miss chance, or 99% miss if there is a Solid Fog around

If something has True Seeing I stay the heck away from it!

I could probably get just under AC 40 with a LOT of effort, but my hit defense would still be ~50% from Displacement, the AC not helping me enough to bother with.

[Delt]

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No...all you need to do is know who Rocker is in-game.

I suppose 59 ac might be handy, if all you do all day is sit in the tavern.

[Riorik]

My cleric has 208 HP. with a 38 AC. She's my main.

My caster has a 17 AC. And 204 HP. She's my number two.

both are NOT shelved.

The AC's are acceptable, but the HP's aren't. Do you play either character in the Shroud? How often do you actually survive segment 4?

[Riorik]

[COLOR="Plum"]Oh her ac is just 33 as she stands(unbuffed), but she is not built for ac or not a high hp either - is only 178hp ... so then the trick is 1.) do not get ranged - simple enough keep moving and 2.) have good saves vs most spells sure a 200hp delay blast fireball will kill you if you do not save but half damage is 100 ... heals up quickly.

The only reason to have high ac or high hp (250+) on any caster is if that caster melees... DC's and spell damage amplication set at top tier is more important... Max, Empower, Heighten, Enlarge are by far the most important aspects of a caster. Typical targeted mob is dead from further then they can spot her anyway.

Maybe I'm just not as good as you are. What I'd found, especially against DBF type combat...is that around 200 HP tended to be the break point for my non-evasion types. A failed save at ANY point was instant death...do it right 20 times, fail once - boom. I tend to regard my survivability in segment 4 as related to how many HP I have OVER 200 at any given time...my weakest caster has 280...my only cleric 320. Keep in mind, these were my 1st and 2nd characters I created (3 years ago)...28 pt builds and they were based on 12/9 starting CON scores as a HUMAN.

No Dwarves, no Warforged, no multiclass - just me paying a LOT of attention, time & effort into equipment & tomes to make them survivable. I actually reduced their AC to get more HP and it seems to be the right choice.

Top for me is - caster - ~21 AC 280 HP - caster(multiclass) ~39 AC 322 HP - cleric ~35AC 320 HP.

And yes, AC does matter to reduce the trash mob damage.

[Borror0]

Real casters don't know how much AC they have.

My cleric has 208 HP. with a 38 AC. She's my main.

My caster has a 17 AC. And 204 HP. She's my number two.

Trissa, my dear, you really need better gear.

[sephiroth1084]

Trade that wounding sickle in for a puncturing *anything* and you'll see much better results. Proficiency does not matter.

Personally prefer Dreamspitter. Extra nice with mass hold as well, and has the added benefit of being able to keep something stoned/held longer if you don't want it dead just yet.