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    Quote Originally Posted by InfidelofHaLL View Post
    i concur with these ppl played with a lot of them now too since i play off peak most times now
    redtempest? Now im sure this list is a fluff popularity contest lmao
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbhs275 View Post
    redtempest? Now im sure this list is a fluff popularity contest lmao
    I think ur right,

    I didn't see it. so ill ask why ain't Oat on there?. so i nominate Oat,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    No.

    What you describe is a solid gamer - someone who strives to improve at the game they're playing (playskills, strategies, builds, equipment, etc). Someone that, given sufficient time (dependent on the game), will in all likelihood be an above-average player.

    A "solid melee-oriented character on Khyber" is similar, but with much smaller scope. I think one of the best ways to describe it is when you have an LFM up for a somewhat shaky group and person X applies. If you do a little silent "oh hell yeah" to yourself, knowing that your group went from shaky to solid, well, you might just be a redneck.

    Okay, just checking if you were reading. But seriously... we all know that feeling, right?
    Yup, I like some players more than other too.

    Anyway, we seem to dissagree on what makes a "Solid Melee Oriented Character". That's cool, I don't expect everyone to agree with my criteria, and according to your list no one is forced to justify their internal criteria - all votes are treated as subjectively equal. Correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verlock View Post
    I think ur right,

    I didn't see it. so ill ask why ain't Oat on there?. so i nominate Oat,
    probably because oat is not really that good

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    I don't see my barb on there, I call shenanigans!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbhs275 View Post
    redtempest? Now im sure this list is a fluff popularity contest lmao
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    I think ur right


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    In keeping with idea that this is not a popularity contest and it appears within the rules, here is my list of top melee-oriented players/characters of Khyber:

    Any and all melee oriented characters made by any player on Khyber.

    With the exception of myself or any of my characters that are melee-classed as I want no part of any such listing. Now, if I can only get 2 or 3 people to comfirm my list.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Quanefel View Post
    In keeping with idea that this is not a popularity contest and it appears within the rules, here is my list of top melee-oriented players/characters of Khyber:

    Any and all melee oriented characters made by any player on Khyber.

    With the exception of myself or any of my characters that are melee-classed as I want no part of any such listing. Now, if I can only get 2 or 3 people to comfirm my list.....
    Oops, sorry Q, you're supposed to be on my ignore list so I can't see this post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahoun View Post
    Yup, I like some players more than other too.
    Well, I meant something different than "liking" the applicant, but I don't think I can express it any more clearly. What you describe sounds like "oh cool, I like this guy", not "oh cool, our team just got a lot better".

    Quote Originally Posted by Kahoun View Post
    Anyway, we seem to dissagree on what makes a "Solid Melee Oriented Character". That's cool, I don't expect everyone to agree with my criteria, and according to your list no one is forced to justify their internal criteria - all votes are treated as subjectively equal. Correct?
    Correct, for the most part.

    The person that nominated their entire guild, as well as the person that nominated the entire server? Yeah, their votes won't be included. Now, if they'd taken the time to list their nominations...

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    Lol I must have got stealth nominated somewhere on soulikizu since I dont see it anywhere in this thread but someone did a typo cuz Im sure its suppose to be soulkizu.

    I nominate all those that did under 7 mins in rainbow normal solo. Means your fast on your feet and have the self-sufficient mentality
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul-Shaker View Post
    Lol I must have got stealth nominated somewhere on soulikizu since I dont see it anywhere in this thread but someone did a typo cuz Im sure its suppose to be soulkizu.

    I nominate all those that did under 7 mins in rainbow normal solo. Means your fast on your feet and have the self-sufficient mentality
    I'll confirm these. Think that was Falion and Vordal at 6 mins each and Soul(yoroi?) at 5.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InfidelofHaLL View Post
    probably because oat is not really that good
    oh infi...why would you say that when your new ranger is nearly as good as him?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Soul-Shaker View Post
    Lol I must have got stealth nominated somewhere on soulikizu since I dont see it anywhere in this thread but someone did a typo cuz Im sure its suppose to be soulkizu.

    I nominate all those that did under 7 mins in rainbow normal solo. Means your fast on your feet and have the self-sufficient mentality
    no love for the guy who did conquest in 19 mins?
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    No i ment Oat is good. was just saying i think he was right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    Well, I meant something different than "liking" the applicant, but I don't think I can express it any more clearly. What you describe sounds like "oh cool, I like this guy", not "oh cool, our team just got a lot better".
    I think people make a team a lot better for all sorts of reasons, because they bring the mood of the party up through their humour and demeanor, because they know the quest exceptionally well, because they are particularly good at leading, because they want to succeed, because they are skillful at playing their character, any or all of these reasons.

    Kahoun: I don't expect everyone to agree with my criteria, and according to your list no one is forced to justify their internal criteria - all votes are treated as subjectively equal. Correct?

    Strakeln: Correct, for the most part.
    (1) Your "40 solid melee characters" list has a way of discerning who gets on it and who does not using these subjective votes, what is it?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strakeln View Post
    The person that nominated their entire guild, as well as the person that nominated the entire server? Yeah, their votes won't be included. Now, if they'd taken the time to list their nominations...
    (2) According to your list I can vote for as many people as I want for whatever reason I think they belong there. Lets say I wanted to put one vote each for:
    Everyone who enjoys playing their Melee oriented character so much that they actively try to develop that characters role to be better;
    and where it doesn't overlap, one vote each for:
    Every active melee oriented character that has made it to level 15 and beyond.

    I think all of these people deserve credit for being solid melee oriented characters, but I cannot possibly be expected to name them all, because I don't know them all. Why can't I nominate them for your list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kahoun View Post
    (2) According to your list I can vote for as many people as I want for whatever reason I think they belong there. Lets say I wanted to put one vote each for:
    Everyone who enjoys playing their Melee oriented character so much that they actively try to develop that characters role to be better;
    and where it doesn't overlap, one vote each for:
    Every active melee oriented character that has made it to level 15 and beyond.

    I think all of these people deserve credit for being solid melee oriented characters, but I cannot possibly be expected to name them all, because I don't know them all. Why can't I nominate them for your list?
    How can you know they're solid if you can't even name them. You can't possibly nominate people you haven't run with or have not in some way made a good enough impression for you to remember their name.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbhs275 View Post
    oh infi...why would you say that when your new ranger is nearly as good as him?
    lol no trust me my builds are a lot better then your ranger any day you feel like having a pvp tango you go ahead an let me know and i will show you why i know oat is no good

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    How's this...

    Im the best melee so haha... and my dad can beat up your dad

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    Quote Originally Posted by InfidelofHaLL View Post
    lol no trust me my builds are a lot better then your ranger any day you feel like having a pvp tango you go ahead an let me know and i will show you why i know oat is no good
    what, so we can both sit there and miss eachother? or are you saying you can consistantly hit a mid 60s ac?
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