Scale rumor

[cypan41]

Heard a rumor that soon scales will drop at the same rate as other collectibles. Anyone else heard this. I mean it would make sense, but can't trust the devs.
I know this is a trade forum, but this might influence us all.

[Turial]

Heard a rumor that soon scales will drop at the same rate as other collectibles. Anyone else heard this. I mean it would make sense, but can't trust the devs.
I know this is a trade forum, but this might influence us all.

Scales as in large devil scales or Giant Tor scales? Cause the large devil scales have the same drop rate as every other shroud ingredient, its just that with so many people running the quest it is possible for a few individuals to get all the scales.

[Yshkabibble]

Scales as in large devil scales or Giant Tor scales? Cause the large devil scales have the same drop rate as every other shroud ingredient, its just that with so many people running the quest it is possible for a few individuals to get all the scales.

They all drop at the same rate it seems. The problem is that most of the recipes that people use call for a disproportionate amount of scales.

[cypan41]

I believe that was what they were talking about. The drop vs the number of times they were used in recipes.

[Thame]

They all drop at the same rate it seems. The problem is that most of the recipes that people use call for a disproportionate amount of scales.

No they do not have the same drop rate. If that was the case then everyone wouldnt be trying to trade for them. Most people say they have 10 stones 10 shrap etc but have no scales. Ive run shroud for 3 months now 3-4 times a week and have yet to pull a scale but have tons of the others. Out of those runs I have seen only 1 scale dropped total. literally out of 50 runs thats 4 chests that drop large scales for 12 people per raid so out of 1800 chances to pull a scale only 1 drops. No its not the same rate. They designed it to be that way so you have to grind.
When mod 6 came out it was funk that was impossible to get now its twigs since the supposedly fixed that. They also lowered the chance that scales drop. because it is the most needed item for most crafting.

[Xithos]

No they do not have the same drop rate. If that was the case then everyone wouldnt be trying to trade for them. Most people say they have 10 stones 10 shrap etc but have no scales. Ive run shroud for 3 months now 3-4 times a week and have yet to pull a scale but have tons of the others. Out of those runs I have seen only 1 scale dropped total. literally out of 50 runs thats 4 chests that drop large scales for 12 people per raid so out of 1800 chances to pull a scale only 1 drops. No its not the same rate. They designed it to be that way so you have to grind.
When mod 6 came out it was funk that was impossible to get now its twigs since the supposedly fixed that. They also lowered the chance that scales drop. because it is the most needed item for most crafting.

I pull more large scales than anything else; unfortunately, everything I craft requires MORE scales than everything else and large scales are one of the few things I can still trade (after all it takes more scales generally to make the good stuff) that people want so I repeatedly find myself with large scale deficit syndrome. My personal experience shows the opposite so I wouldn't mind a developer coming out and talking about the actual drop rate. I could see large horns being much lower to make up for the fact that they are not "highly valuable or sought after" since they forgot to remove them from the initial tables but thats about it.

[sirgog]

No they do not have the same drop rate. If that was the case then everyone wouldnt be trying to trade for them. Most people say they have 10 stones 10 shrap etc but have no scales. Ive run shroud for 3 months now 3-4 times a week and have yet to pull a scale but have tons of the others. Out of those runs I have seen only 1 scale dropped total. literally out of 50 runs thats 4 chests that drop large scales for 12 people per raid so out of 1800 chances to pull a scale only 1 drops. No its not the same rate. They designed it to be that way so you have to grind.
When mod 6 came out it was funk that was impossible to get now its twigs since the supposedly fixed that. They also lowered the chance that scales drop. because it is the most needed item for most crafting.

Scales drop at exactly the same rate as everything else.

I've definitely pulled about the same number of each ingredient - but of course, like everyone else, I've used many more scales than bones and so have a huge stash of spare bones and need more scales.


The devs should change the drop rates, however, so that scales drop more than the other ingredients, at least on hard or elite.

[sirgog]

I pull more large scales than anything else; unfortunately, everything I craft requires MORE scales than everything else and large scales are one of the few things I can still trade (after all it takes more scales generally to make the good stuff) that people want so I repeatedly find myself with large scale deficit syndrome. My personal experience shows the opposite so I wouldn't mind a developer coming out and talking about the actual drop rate. I could see large horns being much lower to make up for the fact that they are not "highly valuable or sought after" since they forgot to remove them from the initial tables but thats about it.

In my experience the drop rate (now) seems to be:

Scale/Stone/Bone/Chain/Shrap/Arrowhead: 15% each (90% total)
Large Horn: 5%
Charged Cell: 5%

plus an additional 15% chance to get a Supreme Shard.

[Korvek]

No they do not have the same drop rate. If that was the case then everyone wouldnt be trying to trade for them. Most people say they have 10 stones 10 shrap etc but have no scales. Ive run shroud for 3 months now 3-4 times a week and have yet to pull a scale but have tons of the others. Out of those runs I have seen only 1 scale dropped total. literally out of 50 runs thats 4 chests that drop large scales for 12 people per raid so out of 1800 chances to pull a scale only 1 drops. No its not the same rate. They designed it to be that way so you have to grind.
When mod 6 came out it was funk that was impossible to get now its twigs since the supposedly fixed that. They also lowered the chance that scales drop. because it is the most needed item for most crafting.

They do drop at the same rate...The devs have stated it to be the case unless they recanted that at some point, and my personal experience has shown it to be as well.

You say you haven't seen many scales drop. I've pulled scales more than any other ingredient. Also, 2 chests have the chance of dropping the larges rather than 4. That or the other two chests have an infinitessimally small drop rate of any larges.

[tihocan]

In my experience the drop rate (now) seems to be:

Scale/Stone/Bone/Chain/Shrap/Arrowhead: 15% each (90% total)
Large Horn: 5%
Charged Cell: 5%

But charged cells do not take the spot of a large ingredient (at least in part 5's chest).

[sirgog]

But charged cells do not take the spot of a large ingredient (at least in part 5's chest).

I've seen them drop in place of one, had it happen to me three or four times.

I've also frequently had uncharged ones drop alongside ingredients.

[Kaldaka]

In my experience the drop rate (now) seems to be:

Scale/Stone/Bone/Chain/Shrap/Arrowhead: 15% each (90% total)
Large Horn: 5%
Charged Cell: 5%

plus an additional 15% chance to get a Supreme Shard.

I've seen part 5 chests open with no larges before ... its pretty rare, but it has happened ... maybe 1%??

[WeaselKing]

They all drop at the same rate it seems. The problem is that most of the recipes that people use call for a disproportionate amount of scales.

QFT, people don't seem to understand that the large scale market is driven by high demand not low supply.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

I've seen part 5 chests open with no larges before ... its pretty rare, but it has happened ... maybe 1%??

So part 4 dropped large ingredients for everyone....

[Kaldaka]

So part 4 dropped large ingredients for everyone....

Hmmm ... is that why??

That seems weird that part 4 would affect part 5s drop rate ...

[ArkoHighStar]

Yep someone had a chart that showed average ingredient use on dual shard items, and scales and stones came out double some other ingredients and almost triple bones in some cases.

[Beherit_Baphomar]

Hmmm ... is that why??

That seems weird that part 4 would affect part 5s drop rate ...

You're guarantee'd a large ingredient. Whether that's a power cell, shard or a large scale. You're gonna get something from one of those chest. Once you get one thing then you are not necessarily gonna get another. Sometimes you may get a shard and an ingredient in Pt 4 and the same again in Pt 5. Sometimes you'll get one large horn in Pt4 and nothing Pt5.

[Kaldaka]

... Sometimes you'll get one large horn in Pt4 and nothing Pt5.

Then that's what did it ... still sucks IMO LOL

[Memnir]

Heard a rumor that soon scales will drop at the same rate as other collectibles. Anyone else heard this. I mean it would make sense, but can't trust the devs.
I know this is a trade forum, but this might influence us all.

It's just wishful thinking.

[The_Phenx]

I've seen part 5 chests open with no larges before ... its pretty rare, but it has happened ... maybe 1%??

Last 6 runs... not 1 ingredient in part 4. Never had it happen in part 5