poll:? no dragon marks

[baylensman]

Not having played a fleshie yet in over 2 years I'm not sure of the advantages of the so called dragon marks. However having an enhancement line available to all but the noble race seems down right rude to me. Is the offer of a one time feat exchange at a reduced price just compensation?

If we can't get the dragon mark how about something unique to Warforged.

Use the already present game mechanics for the dragon marks. Allow warforged to manifest "signature of the craftsman". Unigue markings that allow us to manifest unique abilities.

Mark of the craftsman- this mark reflects the extra care that some war masters used in creating their constructs.Do to the precison of fit and finish adds +1 to AC +1 to dex and a stackable DR 1

Mark of the Thinker- this mark reflects the knowledge thirst of certain makers. +1 bonus to int. Allows the use of scroll regardless of class

Mark of the Faithful- The god fearing makers piousness is transfered to all of their creations. +1 bonus to wis and chr. +1 holy added to all attacks

Mark of the Scout- Transfered to the warforged by those who need to gather information. stackable 15% striding 10% blurr +5 to hide and sneak skills.

Mark of the Ambassador- Created to assist those who negioate and try to avoid conflict. -2 to attack +4 Stackable to AC. +1 to chr +10 to haggle

Just some ideas. Have at it!

[Yaga_Nub]

We already have something unique.

We are immune to a lot of stuff that fleshies would die from very quickly.

We don't want to be like fleshies so stop advocating for it.

[DoctorWhofan]

MArk of the Craftmans suggestion is good, but you need to add to more tiers to it. THat's how Dragonmarks work. three tiers based on one mark. They are all clickies with some passive ability. (+1 to heal, +2heal, +3 heal for example)

I would recommend one or two "Dragonmarks" for WF.

[Aeneas]

Just make that cranium symbol option at character creation mean something - like +1 to a stat or a save depending on which you choose - don't think that would be game breaking and would serve as compensation for not being able to teleport, cast self heals, displace one's self, or throw out a globe of invulnerability at will. Could even make it cost a feat to get the symbol, and it could be tiered like the other marks with each tier of a symbol giving something different/better than the last.

[Yaga_Nub]

Just make that cranium symbol option at character creation mean something - like +1 to a stat or a save depending on which you choose - don't think that would be game breaking and would serve as compensation for not being able to teleport, cast self heals, displace one's self, or throw out a globe of invulnerability at will. Could even make it cost a feat to get the symbol, and it could be tiered like the other marks with each tier of a symbol giving something different/better than the last.

I like that suggestion.

[Aspenor]

Not having played a fleshie yet in over 2 years I'm not sure of the advantages of the so called dragon marks. However having an enhancement line available to all but the noble race seems down right rude to me. Is the offer of a one time feat exchange at a reduced price just compensation?

If we can't get the dragon mark how about something unique to Warforged.

Use the already present game mechanics for the dragon marks. Allow warforged to manifest "signature of the craftsman". Unigue markings that allow us to manifest unique abilities.

Mark of the craftsman- this mark reflects the extra care that some war masters used in creating their constructs.Do to the precison of fit and finish adds +1 to AC +1 to dex and a stackable DR 1

Mark of the Thinker- this mark reflects the knowledge thirst of certain makers. +1 bonus to int. Allows the use of scroll regardless of class

Mark of the Faithful- The god fearing makers piousness is transfered to all of their creations. +1 bonus to wis and chr. +1 holy added to all attacks

Mark of the Scout- Transfered to the warforged by those who need to gather information. stackable 15% striding 10% blurr +5 to hide and sneak skills.

Mark of the Ambassador- Created to assist those who negioate and try to avoid conflict. -2 to attack +4 Stackable to AC. +1 to chr +10 to haggle

Just some ideas. Have at it!

Warforged can't have dragonmarks. They come from being from a Dragonmarked House.

[Turial]

Warforged can't have dragonmarks. They come from being from a Dragonmarked House.

Most of the time yes. There are marks that have manifested outside of the houses that weren't abberant marks.

[Aspenor]

Most of the time yes. There are marks that have manifested outside of the houses that weren't abberant marks.

True. But that didn't happen to warforged, eh?

[kaidendager]

A Dragonmark for WF on par with most the "Fleshies" Dragonmarks would go something like this:

Mark of Tin I : +1 to heal skill, activate this ability to cast repair light damage three times per rest.

Mark of Tin II : +2 to heal skill, activate this ability to cast repair moderate damage two times per rest.

Mark of Tin IIII : +3 to heal skill, activate this ability to cast repair serious damage one times per rest.



Mark of The Last War I : +1 to swim skill, activate this ability to cast jump spell three times per rest.

Mark of The Last War II : +2 to swim skill, activate this ability to cast heroism spell two times per rest.

Mark of The Last War I : +3 to swim skill, activate this ability to cast Protection from elements spell one time per rest.



Dragonmarks (with some would argue the exception of halflings) are mostly useless but have the occasional situation arise where they would be ocnvenient but not necessary.

[Lunewann]

A Dragonmark for WF on par with most the "Fleshies" Dragonmarks would go something like this:

Mark of Tin I : +1 to heal skill, activate this ability to cast repair light damage three times per rest.

Mark of Tin II : +2 to heal skill, activate this ability to cast repair moderate damage two times per rest.

Mark of Tin IIII : +3 to heal skill, activate this ability to cast repair serious damage one times per rest.



Mark of The Last War I : +1 to swim skill, activate this ability to cast jump spell three times per rest.

Mark of The Last War II : +2 to swim skill, activate this ability to cast heroism spell two times per rest.

Mark of The Last War I : +3 to swim skill, activate this ability to cast Protection from elements spell one time per rest.



Dragonmarks (with some would argue the exception of halflings) are mostly useless but have the occasional situation arise where they would be ocnvenient but not necessary.

What about marks of repair... reconstruction... much like a halfling mark..... Then i would have a better excuse not to heal any ugly warforges ass in combat.

[Rilean]

The big problem with WF having a dragonmark in DDO is that it would be against one of the main guidelines in the Eberron setting. The creation for want of a better term goes back to a time long before the creation of WF as they are today and from memory the dragon marks are instuments of the Dragon Proficies so WF cant and I dont belive should get dragon mark

Just my opinion

[Turial]

True. But that didn't happen to warforged, eh?

Correct.

But no one knows what would happen if a forged was seated with a kyber docent containing the essence of a dragon mark or drank the distilled essence of a dragon mark.

Though my original point was that dragon marked persons do not have to come from dragon mark houses rather then a comment on warforged getting them. I did not do a good job of making that clear.

[Turial]

The big problem with WF having a dragonmark in DDO is that it would be against one of the main guidelines in the Eberron setting. The creation for want of a better term goes back to a time long before the creation of WF as they are today and from memory the dragon marks are instuments of the Dragon Proficies so WF cant and I dont belive should get dragon mark

Just my opinion

The dragon marks aren't just instruments of the the prophecies, they are bits of the prophecies written on the "weaker" races, much to the ire of dragons.

[BLAKROC]

a swap out of blanket immunities for a dragonmark if you choose would probably be ok. but to add just a dragon mark should not happen

[rezo]

The big problem with WF having a dragonmark in DDO is that it would be against one of the main guidelines in the Eberron setting.
Just my opinion

We are not in Eberron if you read the setting book and race guides and compare it to DDO right now.

[Rilean]

This game although not an accurate adaptation is still in the eberron game world. Xendric (sp?) is a continent on eberron.

[Brenolan]

I believe we could skip over all this Dragonmark stuff for WF's if the Devs would implement some WF Components beyond the Docent. Some examples:

Armblade (a bastard sword fused to a WF arm)
Armbow (a light repeater imbedded in a WF arm that creates its own magical bolts)
Battlefist (treats the WF unarmed attack as 1d8, or for WF monks as a large sized creature)
Wand Sheath (holds a wand usable by the WF and doesn't take a full action to use)

These are just examples (the devs could do a variety of components using their own flare) but anything like them would add that personal touch to WF that all the Meatbags currently get with Dragonmarks, plus it would be fitting with the campaign setting.

[rimble]

I believe we could skip over all this Dragonmark stuff for WF's if the Devs would implement some WF Components beyond the Docent. Some examples:

Armblade (a bastard sword fused to a WF arm)
Armbow (a light repeater imbedded in a WF arm that creates its own magical bolts)
Battlefist (treats the WF unarmed attack as 1d8, or for WF monks as a large sized creature)
Wand Sheath (holds a wand usable by the WF and doesn't take a full action to use)

Agreed. No WF Dragonmarks, consider more WF only equipment or other appropriate enhancements. I'd prefer to work somewhat within the lore without hacking it up too badly...Drow, rightfully, don't get Dragonmarks either.

[Robi3.0]

We are not in Eberron if you read the setting book and race guides and compare it to DDO right now.

Well, in that case I want a laser sword, a rocket pony, and a spaceship.

Dragonmarks are passed on through bloodlines. Warforge where not born and can't have children. Therefor Warforge don't get dragonmarks.

[MysticRhythms]

I agree to saying no to Dragonmarks. There's a plot-specific reasoning for this and I'd liek to see that maintained.

If you really need more warforged "goodness" then ask for the warforged feats and components as mentioned above.