Request a build get one (once again one of those request build threads)

**Hobgoblin** · 11-07-2008, 08:12 PM

you could get evasion through ranger but you have to get 9 levels. if you go that way go 15 ranger 1 monk.... get awesome ac

**Aranticus** · 11-07-2008, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by k1dwizard

i hear that, but if i were to go monk, couldnt i just take 8 lvls of ranger and 6 of fighter? wouldnt that solve the evasion? like i said just asking, i like the original idean, but switching up the lvl order. just wondering what i could do to fix this

it depends on how you build it. the suggested build is a high str low dex build which means the main AC will come from armor. having monk with armor is counter productive as you do not get the AC bonus from wis. rog will be a better idea for sneak attack, umd and possibly some rog skills. if the build is a high dex mod str and is wearing robes, then it would be favorable to get monk levels

the next consideration is the dump stat distribution, a ftr/rgr/rog will need str, dex, con and some int (at least 13 if you want combat expertise). this makes wis and cha dump stats. with a 8 wis, it is not favorable to go for monk as you will be at 14 (+2 wis mod) with a +6 item. raiment + bracers = +12, 22 dex and 14 wis boost it to +20 AC (provided you have a +8 bracers). going rog, you can use the ftr armor mastery to boost max dex bonus on armor, with KDS (+10 AC), chaosgardes (+2), 22 dex will put it at +18 AC with TWF, +25 if using a shield

**Aranticus** · 11-07-2008, 08:47 PM

Originally Posted by wesleyjolley

you could get evasion through ranger but you have to get 9 levels. if you go that way go 15 ranger 1 monk.... get awesome ac

this is my 28 pt version of 15rgr/1mnk. i'm running the 32 pt version with 16 str. hes a monster

AC
base: 10
raiment: +4
dex: +12
wis: +5
bracers: +8
tempest: +2
insight: +4
protection: +5
combat expertise: +5 (need +3 int tome)
barkskin: +5
shield wand: +4 (i have umd)
total: 64

**Verlock** · 11-07-2008, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by ChadMan

Ok so a few things for u Ver this build will get 321 hp w/ gfl item +6 con item w/ out gh favor-menos hlem ok and it would work even better w/ bracers from vod or skiver from lotd w/ a shroud crafted item but 8D Good luck and any feedback good or bad on build welcome this is my first clierc build so

With that said i give you...

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2 wepon  fighting clierc
Level 16 True Neutral Halfling Male
(2 Ranger \ 14 Cleric) 
Hit Points: 214
Spell Points: 1232 
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 13
Will: 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength              6                     6
Dexterity            16                    21
Constitution         14                    17
Intelligence          9                     9
Wisdom               17                    27
Charisma             14                    18

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 16
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 16
+3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 16
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 16

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               3                  5                    5
Bluff                 2                  4                    4
Concentration         6                 21                   21
Diplomacy             2                  4                    4
Disable Device       n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle                2                  4                    4
Heal                  7                 14                   15
Hide                  3                  5                    8
Intimidate            4                  6.5                  6.5
Jump                  2                  3                    6
Listen                7                 13                   15
Move Silently         3                  5                    7
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair               -1                 -1                   -1
Search               -1                 -1                   -1
Spot                  3                  8                    8
Swim                 -2                 -2                   -2
Tumble                n/a               n/a                   n/a
Use Magic Device      n/a               n/a                   n/a

Notable Equipment
Helm: Hat of Power X 
Ring: Health Ring
Ring: Wise Ring
Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+4)
Skill: Heal (+4)
Skill: Intimidate (+2)
Skill: Jump (+4)
Skill: Listen (+4)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Ranger Heal I
Enhancement: Ranger Hide I
Enhancement: Ranger Jump I
Enhancement: Ranger Devotion I


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Intimidate (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Listen (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I


Level 3 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Mental Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Magical Training
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Turn Undead
Spell (1): Bane
Spell (1): Bless
Spell (1): Cause Fear
Spell (1): Command
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (1): Divine Favor
Spell (1): Doom
Spell (1): Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (1): Nightshield
Spell (1): Nimbus of Light
Spell (1): Obscuring Mist
Spell (1): Protection From Evil
Spell (1): Remove Fear
Spell (1): Shield of Faith
Spell (1): Summon Monster I
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic I
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot I


Level 4 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Heal (+1)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)
Enhancement: Cleric Smiting I
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom I


Level 5 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (2): Aid
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Bull's Strength
Spell (2): Close Wounds
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Deific Vengance
Spell (2): Eagle's Spendor
Spell (2): Find Traps
Spell (2): Hold Person
Spell (2): Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (2): Lesser Restoration
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Remove Paralysis
Spell (2): Resist Energy
Spell (2): Seek Eternal Rest
Spell (2): Soundburst
Spell (2): Spawn Screen
Spell (2): Summon Monster II
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Cleansing I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Healing I
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality I


Level 6 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Maximize Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic II
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma I


Level 7 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (3): Bestow Curse
Spell (3): Blindness
Spell (3): Contagion
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Dispel Magic
Spell (3): Glyph of Warding
Spell (3): Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Magic Circle Against Evil
Spell (3): Mass Aid
Spell (3): Prayer
Spell (3): Protection From Energy
Spell (3): Remove Blindness
Spell (3): Remove Curse
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Searing Light
Spell (3): Summon Monster III
Spell (3): Water Breathing
Enhancement: Follower of the Sovereign Host


Level 8 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Will)


Level 9 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Mental Toughness
Spell (4): Chaos Hammer
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Deathward
Spell (4): Dismissal
Spell (4): Divine Power
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (4): Holy Smite
Spell (4): Inflict Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Mass Shield of Faith
Spell (4): Neutralize Poison
Spell (4): Order's Wrath
Spell (4): Poison
Spell (4): Recitation
Spell (4): Restoration
Spell (4): Summon Monster IV
Spell (4): Symbol of Flame
Spell (4): Unholy Blight
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom II


Level 10 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Enhancement: Unyielding Sovereignty
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I


Level 11 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (5): Break Enchantment
Spell (5): Flame Strike
Spell (5): Greater Command
Spell (5): Mass Cure Light Wounds
Spell (5): Mass Inflict Light Wounds
Spell (5): Raise Dead
Spell (5): Slay Living
Spell (5): Spell Resistance
Spell (5): Summon Monster V
Spell (5): Symbol of Pain
Spell (5): True Seeing
Enhancement: Cleric Life Magic III
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot II
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot III


Level 12 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Quicken Spell
Enhancement: Cleric Wisdom III


Level 13 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Spell (6): Banishment
Spell (6): Blade Barrier
Spell (6): Cometfall
Spell (6): Create Undead
Spell (6): Greater Dispel Magic
Spell (6): Greater Glyph of Warding
Spell (6): Harm
Spell (6): Heal
Spell (6): Heroes Feast
Spell (6): Mass Bear's Endurance
Spell (6): Mass Bull's Strength
Spell (6): Mass Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Eagle's Spendor
Spell (6): Mass Inflict Moderate Wounds
Spell (6): Mass Owl's Wisdom
Spell (6): Summon Monster VI
Spell (6): Symbol of Fear
Spell (6): Symbol of Persuasion
Spell (6): Undead to Death
Spell (6): Word of Recall
Enhancement: Cleric Charisma II


Level 14 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Enhancement: Cleric Divine Vitality II
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning I
Enhancement: Cleric Extra Turning II


Level 15 (Cleric)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Spell (7): Destruction
Spell (7): Greater Restoration
Spell (7): Mass Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Inflict Serious Wounds
Spell (7): Mass Restoration
Spell (7): Mass Spell Resistance
Spell (7): Resurrection
Spell (7): Summon Monster VII
Spell (7): Symbol of Stunning
Spell (7): Symbol of Weakness
Enhancement: Cleric Energy of the Zealot IV


Level 16 (Cleric)
Ability Raise: WIS
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II

Hey ill start off by saying. some thing came up so not leaveing till the morning, The build looks good for a non hard core player. but for me he realy needs more str i want TWF for being front line DPS healer. how i play my THF cleric. i only wanted the 18 cha to bump melee DPS up even more to get dvine might. why i needed help 15 cha + 3 tome for 18. but ty for trying

**k1dwizard** · 11-07-2008, 09:05 PM

nice, i like it good feedback, but if the original build is low dex, and is armor based, wouldnt the evasion not work? lol! **** me and all the questions, i appreciate the assitance though. too bad we cant offer point to bennifit those that actually help.

**Aranticus** · 11-07-2008, 09:09 PM

Originally Posted by k1dwizard

nice, i like it good feedback, but if the original build is low dex, and is armor based, wouldnt the evasion not work? lol! **** me and all the questions, i appreciate the assitance though. too bad we cant offer point to bennifit those that actually help.

evasion will work with any dex. as for armor, light armor only. best is use mithral bp, mithral CS, mithral CM. the kundarak delving suit (KDS) is a mithral CM

**ChadMan** · 11-08-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by k1dwizard

i hear that, but if i were to go monk, couldnt i just take 8 lvls of ranger and 6 of fighter? wouldnt that solve the evasion? like i said just asking, i like the original idean, but switching up the lvl order. just wondering what i could do to fix this

good point but w/ 2 lvls of monk u get envasion or rog depending on how u want it

**ChadMan** · 11-10-2008, 08:46 PM

Kids new build i think this ones better

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Ac ranger  build
Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(2 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 12 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 207
Spell Points: 157 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 24
Will: 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength              6                  6                    7
Dexterity            20                 24                   28
Constitution         14                 14                   14
Intelligence         12                 13                   13
Wisdom               14                 14                   14
Charisma              8                  8                    8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               7                 18                   18
Bluff                -1                 -1                   -1
Concentration         2                  2                    2
Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                 -1                    0
Heal                  4                  7                    7
Hide                  9                 28                   33
Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
Jump                  0                 13                   16
Listen                2                  2                    4
Move Silently         9                 28                   32
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                1                  1                    1
Spot                  2                  2                    2
Swim                 -2                 -2                   -2
Tumble                7                 26                   26
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a

Notable Equipment
Ring: Health Ring
Ring: Dextrous Ring
Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance I
Enhancement: Halfling Hiding I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore I
Enhancement: Halfling Athletics I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Fortitude)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Armored Agility I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently I
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Reptillian


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Hide I
Enhancement: Ranger Hide II


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance II


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
Spell (2): Barkskin
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Cat's Grace
Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (2): Hold Animal
Spell (2): Mass Camouflage
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Protection From Energy
Spell (2): Snare
Spell (2): Spike Growth
Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore II
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark III


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Reflex)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck III (Reflex)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Neutralize Poison
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Summon Nature's Ally III
Spell (3): Wild Instincts
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark IV


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance III

**Hobgoblin** · 11-10-2008, 09:06 PM

ouch

just ouch

Do you want to do any damage at all when you hit?

Str way too low

take dex down to 16 or 18 and put those points in str

Reduce your int to 10 maybe even 8 and boost your con and maybe wis up

**Hobgoblin** · 11-10-2008, 09:08 PM

Go 2 monk first. trust me. evasion from the get go xtra feats, then at least 6 ranger then it doesnt matter

**Aranticus** · 11-10-2008, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by ChadMan

Kids new build i think this ones better

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Ac ranger  build
Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(2 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 12 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 207
Spell Points: 157 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 24
Will: 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength              6                  6                    7
Dexterity            20                 24                   28
Constitution         14                 14                   14
Intelligence         12                 13                   13
Wisdom               14                 14                   14
Charisma              8                  8                    8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               7                 18                   18
Bluff                -1                 -1                   -1
Concentration         2                  2                    2
Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                 -1                    0
Heal                  4                  7                    7
Hide                  9                 28                   33
Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
Jump                  0                 13                   16
Listen                2                  2                    4
Move Silently         9                 28                   32
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                1                  1                    1
Spot                  2                  2                    2
Swim                 -2                 -2                   -2
Tumble                7                 26                   26
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a

Notable Equipment
Ring: Health Ring
Ring: Dextrous Ring
Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance I
Enhancement: Halfling Hiding I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore I
Enhancement: Halfling Athletics I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Fortitude)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Armored Agility I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently I
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Reptillian


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Hide I
Enhancement: Ranger Hide II


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance II


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
Spell (2): Barkskin
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Cat's Grace
Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (2): Hold Animal
Spell (2): Mass Camouflage
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Protection From Energy
Spell (2): Snare
Spell (2): Spike Growth
Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore II
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark III


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Reflex)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck III (Reflex)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Neutralize Poison
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Summon Nature's Ally III
Spell (3): Wild Instincts
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark IV


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance III

seriously ChadMan, this is another VERY bad build. 6 str, once hit with ray of enfeeblement and other str damaging spell effects, you are out of the equation. why bring a melee that is not going to be able to melee? 6 str = ZERO dps, no favored enhancements = ZERO dps. all AC is not going to help you in anyway much less help the rest of the party. to be honest with you, i think its wonderful that you are trying to help others out by giving some build advice. the problem is, the advice you give are more of a hindrance than of help. read up on what works and what don't, test them out. look at illuminati. his builds are often snapped up by players, not because people do not know how to build but his are tried, tested and proven

**adrinor** · 11-10-2008, 09:11 PM

Originally Posted by ChadMan

Kids new build i think this ones better

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Ac ranger  build
Level 16 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(2 Fighter \ 2 Monk \ 12 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 207
Spell Points: 157 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 18
Reflex: 24
Will: 11

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats         Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)           (Level 16)
Strength              6                  6                    7
Dexterity            20                 24                   28
Constitution         14                 14                   14
Intelligence         12                 13                   13
Wisdom               14                 14                   14
Charisma              8                  8                    8

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1

                  Starting            Ending          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills        Base Skills        Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)          (Level 16)
Balance               7                 18                   18
Bluff                -1                 -1                   -1
Concentration         2                  2                    2
Diplomacy            -1                 -1                   -1
Disable Device        n/a               n/a                   n/a
Haggle               -1                 -1                    0
Heal                  4                  7                    7
Hide                  9                 28                   33
Intimidate           -1                 -1                   -1
Jump                  0                 13                   16
Listen                2                  2                    4
Move Silently         9                 28                   32
Open Lock             n/a               n/a                   n/a
Perform              n/a               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                  1                    1
Search                1                  1                    1
Spot                  2                  2                    2
Swim                 -2                 -2                   -2
Tumble                7                 26                   26
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a                   n/a

Notable Equipment
Ring: Health Ring
Ring: Dextrous Ring
Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 

Level 1 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Hide (+4)
Skill: Jump (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Undead
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Finesse
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Bow Strength
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Agility
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Bravery
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Keen Ears
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Luck
Feat: (Automatic) Halfling Size Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Light Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Shield Proficiency (General)
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency (ALL)
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance I
Enhancement: Halfling Hiding I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Reflex)


Level 2 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Heal (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Two Weapon Fighting
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore I
Enhancement: Halfling Athletics I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Fortitude)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck I (Will)


Level 3 (Fighter)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Automatic) Heavy Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Medium Armor Proficiency
Feat: (Automatic) Tower Shield Proficiency
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I


Level 4 (Fighter)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Jump (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Armored Agility I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I


Level 5 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Diehard
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I


Level 6 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Spell (1): Camouflage
Spell (1): Jump
Spell (1): Longstrider
Spell (1): Merfolk's Blessing
Spell (1): Ram's Might
Spell (1): Resist Energy
Spell (1): Summon Nature's Ally I
Spell (1): Tumble
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently I
Enhancement: Ranger Move Silently II


Level 7 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+0.5)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1.5)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Reptillian


Level 8 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Jump (+3)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Manyshot
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Ranger Hide I
Enhancement: Ranger Hide II


Level 9 (Monk)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Least Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark I
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark II
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 10 (Monk)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+3)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Deflect Arrows
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity II


Level 11 (Ranger)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+2.5)
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Wild Empathy
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Class Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance II


Level 12 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Feat: (Selected) Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
Spell (2): Barkskin
Spell (2): Bear's Endurance
Spell (2): Cat's Grace
Spell (2): Cure Light Wounds
Spell (2): Hold Animal
Spell (2): Mass Camouflage
Spell (2): Owl's Wisdom
Spell (2): Protection From Energy
Spell (2): Snare
Spell (2): Spike Growth
Spell (2): Summon Nature's Ally II
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore II
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark III


Level 13 (Ranger)
Skill: Heal (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Enhancement: Way of the Clever Monkey I


Level 14 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider
Enhancement: Halfling Luck II (Reflex)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck III (Reflex)


Level 15 (Ranger)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Dragonmark of Healing
Feat: (Automatic) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Precise Shot
Feat: (Automatic) Precise Shot
Spell (3): Cure Moderate Wounds
Spell (3): Neutralize Poison
Spell (3): Remove Disease
Spell (3): Summon Nature's Ally III
Spell (3): Wild Instincts
Enhancement: Extra Dragonmark IV


Level 16 (Ranger)
Ability Raise: DEX
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Enhancement: Ranger Desert Lore III
Enhancement: Fighter Strategy (Trip) I
Enhancement: Halfling Fear Resistance III

You should never roll a character with a 6 starting strength.

For this one I would lower dexterity to 17 and put those points into strength which would make it 13. Also why no improved crit?

**Hobgoblin** · 11-10-2008, 09:14 PM

Chadman i want to thank you for trying to help, but try playing some of these builds, ie does testing first!! Plz!

**Aranticus** · 11-10-2008, 09:14 PM

ps: take a look at my template thread for new players, i'll be glad to exchange build pointers with you

**p0werslave** · 11-11-2008, 11:43 AM

how about a 28-point DR based Barbarian intimitank?? think i've seen some posted somewhere, but now i'm having trouble finding it.

**WeaselKing** · 11-11-2008, 04:43 PM

Weapon Finesse Halfling Tempest Warchanter Barbarian

**Aranticus** · 11-11-2008, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by WeaselKing

Weapon Finesse Halfling Tempest Warchanter Barbarian

very likely to run into feat troubles here. tempest requires 3, warchanter 1, finesse 1. 5 out of 6 feats taken. are you going to get IC or toughness for last?

next is the levels, tempest = 6 rgr, warchanter = 6 brd, at current cap, this means 4 lvl of barbarian. compared to a 10rgr/6brd, you are sacrificing FE, FE damage, evasion, spells for a +3 str rage and 10% running speed. imo, not worth it

**WeaselKing** · 11-12-2008, 02:07 PM

Originally Posted by Aranticus

very likely to run into feat troubles here. tempest requires 3, warchanter 1, finesse 1. 5 out of 6 feats taken. are you going to get IC or toughness for last?

next is the levels, tempest = 6 rgr, warchanter = 6 brd, at current cap, this means 4 lvl of barbarian. compared to a 10rgr/6brd, you are sacrificing FE, FE damage, evasion, spells for a +3 str rage and 10% running speed. imo, not worth it

Was thinking in terms of lvl 20 cap 6 brd/6 rgr/ 8 barb.

**Aranticus** · 11-12-2008, 08:28 PM

Originally Posted by WeaselKing

Was thinking in terms of lvl 20 cap 6 brd/6 rgr/ 8 barb.

8 barb = no crit rage. reduced spell abilities, evasion, FE, etc for just a +4 rage and more hp? i really do not fancy it. 14brb/6rgr is cool as it will have crit rage 2

**ShadowFox1978** · 11-14-2008, 12:41 AM

Originally Posted by Aranticus

very likely to run into feat troubles here. tempest requires 3, warchanter 1, finesse 1. 5 out of 6 feats taken. are you going to get IC or toughness for last?

next is the levels, tempest = 6 rgr, warchanter = 6 brd, at current cap, this means 4 lvl of barbarian. compared to a 10rgr/6brd, you are sacrificing FE, FE damage, evasion, spells for a +3 str rage and 10% running speed. imo, not worth it

Your count is wrong Shug. Tempest 3, warchanter 2, finesse 1= no extra feats.

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