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    Its cool, got any good throwing stars for trade?

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    I wont let it go?!?!?! Please! I let it go for a WEEK!!! But I was continuously harassed and then the PUG I was in was harrased by this individual!! I was only going to stand for so much!
    I don't enjoy this Sergad. It's a long time coming though.

    You're sig says "Group hates me, poor babies". This denotes a level of apathy toward other people's opinion of you. You do this to make yourself sound cool, and give you yourself an identity. It's a common tactic with young, and/or immature people. However, based on your post, you absolutely do care. However, you choose NOT to change your behavior.

    THAT is a function of choice between positive and negative reinforcement. As a child, we learn that with certain actions we receive either negative or positive reinforcement. We get yelled at for trying to pull the boiling pot off the stove, and we get encouraged when we first ride a bicycle without falling. When a lack of positive reinforcement, it has been proven that a child will seek out negative attention as a substitute. This is what you are doing.

    Let's understand. Positive reinforcement is hard to get. Fact of life. However, people are VERY quick to point out your failings. Fact of life. Mature people choose to still seek out the positive. I'm going to throw a quote out there. "Hard right over an easy wrong". This statement says that when faced with a certain choice, you take the right choice, even though it might be much harder than the the easy choice, but in the end wrong choice. Lying is a classic example. Our brains tell us that lying is an escape. We don't have to own up to what we did. We can concoct a story that suits us so we can escape trouble. In the end though, it usually fails, if the lie is big enough. If you just own up in the beginning, and avoid the lie, the outcome happens swifter, and with less punishment. Because lying really irritates people, and only makes things worse.

    The word I'll use now is "INTEGRITY". Integrity denotes a level of self-accountability. This is where you are SEVERELY lacking, and why people really dislike you. You choose to take an easy road out by being mean and pretending to not care. You consistently choose the wrong action, by being mean, and profane. You do not display ignorance, as by your signature, you are well aware that your actions upset people. So, that tells me that you don't care, and therefore severely lack any kind of integrity to be a decent human being.

    Now, let's sum this all up and see where this behavior comes from. Well, we know that a lack of positive reinforcement in a child can elicit behavior that creates negative attention. Eventually, that child learns to cope with the negative attention. It happens in the form of a "I don't care what you think" kind of attitude. This then teaches the child that this type of behavior is acceptable, as it's coming from the top down. Not the other way around. We learn how to act from those above us. So, rinse and repeat. Child then emulates the same behavior that made the child learn that negative attention was the best they could do.

    So, in the end, you absolutely do care what people think of you. You just don't know how to change, as it's been an affliction your entire life. You seek out video games as an escape, and a place you can be successful. You can't function in a team, so you have an unhealthy need to control those around you in a way that you can feel comfortable. This is because your success in this game fuels your self-esteem.

    Now video games are an easy road to success. They give you easy accomplishment, as opposed to going outside and being competitive in a sport, or academically, etc. Video games are designed to be beaten, and therefore can offer easy accomplishment to those that choose the easy road over the hard one (hard right over easy wrong). You fall right into this category. It's textbook dude. You need to take a hard look at yourself, and figure some things out. What you're doing at your age is fixable. You just need to stop doing it. It's hard. You need to find some other outlet, that contributes to your success, and it can't be another video game.

    I'm deadly serious with this Sergad. I don't know you from Adam, but I do know "you". You're textbook. I'm not saying stop playing this game. I'm saying stop playing this game so much, and diversify. Find something else as well. Pick up guitar and learn to play, well (not guitar hero). Go running, or join the track team. Do SOMETHING.

    I can't stress this enough. This is not a joke, and it's not an attack. You're not making any friends here, and it will continue throughout life. It will affect jobs, relationships, etc, etc, etc.
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    For when a .jpg is not enough.

    Seriously, guys. Kill the drama. That's what Xoriat was for.
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    Well put minivanman... can you talk to my step-kids too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by barecm View Post
    Although I do agree that Sergod can be a little annoying at times, he gets more in return than he deserves. In my experience he is a decent player, fairly trustworth for someone outside my guild and generally a decent enough guy; just a little high test at times. Maybe just more dedicated to success than some people care for .
    Interesting choice of words.. I'm not sure they mean what you think they mean?

    Considering that personal attacks are against the EULA here I would never respond to this by saying that there is most likely no-one else more disliked on the whole server than the OP. To label someone by name and say that even Ironwill would squelch them, or to use terms such as: immature, a$$hat, waste of carbon, server wide embarrassment would be wrong as well. To make fun of their physical appearance would be right out.

    So, to the above quoted person I would simply ask: What color is the sky in your world?
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    here is some more valuable lessons

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u65RHDtURGQ
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    Quote Originally Posted by minivanman View Post
    I don't enjoy this Sergad. It's a long time coming though.

    You're sig says "Group hates me, poor babies". This denotes a level of apathy toward other people's opinion of you. You do this to make yourself sound cool, and give you yourself an identity. It's a common tactic with young, and/or immature people. However, based on your post, you absolutely do care. However, you choose NOT to change your behavior.

    THAT is a function of choice between positive and negative reinforcement. As a child, we learn that with certain actions we receive either negative or positive reinforcement. We get yelled at for trying to pull the boiling pot off the stove, and we get encouraged when we first ride a bicycle without falling. When a lack of positive reinforcement, it has been proven that a child will seek out negative attention as a substitute. This is what you are doing.

    Let's understand. Positive reinforcement is hard to get. Fact of life. However, people are VERY quick to point out your failings. Fact of life. Mature people choose to still seek out the positive. I'm going to throw a quote out there. "Hard right over an easy wrong". This statement says that when faced with a certain choice, you take the right choice, even though it might be much harder than the the easy choice, but in the end wrong choice. Lying is a classic example. Our brains tell us that lying is an escape. We don't have to own up to what we did. We can concoct a story that suits us so we can escape trouble. In the end though, it usually fails, if the lie is big enough. If you just own up in the beginning, and avoid the lie, the outcome happens swifter, and with less punishment. Because lying really irritates people, and only makes things worse.

    The word I'll use now is "INTEGRITY". Integrity denotes a level of self-accountability. This is where you are SEVERELY lacking, and why people really dislike you. You choose to take an easy road out by being mean and pretending to not care. You consistently choose the wrong action, by being mean, and profane. You do not display ignorance, as by your signature, you are well aware that your actions upset people. So, that tells me that you don't care, and therefore severely lack any kind of integrity to be a decent human being.

    Now, let's sum this all up and see where this behavior comes from. Well, we know that a lack of positive reinforcement in a child can elicit behavior that creates negative attention. Eventually, that child learns to cope with the negative attention. It happens in the form of a "I don't care what you think" kind of attitude. This then teaches the child that this type of behavior is acceptable, as it's coming from the top down. Not the other way around. We learn how to act from those above us. So, rinse and repeat. Child then emulates the same behavior that made the child learn that negative attention was the best they could do.

    So, in the end, you absolutely do care what people think of you. You just don't know how to change, as it's been an affliction your entire life. You seek out video games as an escape, and a place you can be successful. You can't function in a team, so you have an unhealthy need to control those around you in a way that you can feel comfortable. This is because your success in this game fuels your self-esteem.

    Now video games are an easy road to success. They give you easy accomplishment, as opposed to going outside and being competitive in a sport, or academically, etc. Video games are designed to be beaten, and therefore can offer easy accomplishment to those that choose the easy road over the hard one (hard right over easy wrong). You fall right into this category. It's textbook dude. You need to take a hard look at yourself, and figure some things out. What you're doing at your age is fixable. You just need to stop doing it. It's hard. You need to find some other outlet, that contributes to your success, and it can't be another video game.

    I'm deadly serious with this Sergad. I don't know you from Adam, but I do know "you". You're textbook. I'm not saying stop playing this game. I'm saying stop playing this game so much, and diversify. Find something else as well. Pick up guitar and learn to play, well (not guitar hero). Go running, or join the track team. Do SOMETHING.

    I can't stress this enough. This is not a joke, and it's not an attack. You're not making any friends here, and it will continue throughout life. It will affect jobs, relationships, etc, etc, etc.
    OFT, nice psychoanalysis, I totally understand this as fact, I am a high school teacher and 90% of my grad classes were child psychology. This could not be written any better then if it did come from a textbook.
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    Well put minivanman... can you talk to my step-kids too?
    Maybe a forum? or since we all play at different times, perhaps a video instruction course Minivanman? lol

    btw Original, have you ever thought of creating an alter ego named 'Parkay'?


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    While at least entertaining for the briefest of moments, this thread just needs to go the way of the dinosaurs...lest it become Cube Food.

    I have no argument with either of the involved parties, you see....I pretty much roll with anybody these days...even Harpers....LOL.

    Seriously, this has become a first class flame fest and I would not want to see bans over this. Please let this go. If not, take it off the forums and at least do it via PM.

    Thanks for your consideration in this matter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by minivanman View Post
    I don't enjoy this Sergad. It's a long time coming though.

    You're sig says "Group hates me, poor babies". This denotes a level of apathy toward other people's opinion of you. You do this to make yourself sound cool, and give you yourself an identity. It's a common tactic with young, and/or immature people. However, based on your post, you absolutely do care. However, you choose NOT to change your behavior.

    THAT is a function of choice between positive and negative reinforcement. As a child, we learn that with certain actions we receive either negative or positive reinforcement. We get yelled at for trying to pull the boiling pot off the stove, and we get encouraged when we first ride a bicycle without falling. When a lack of positive reinforcement, it has been proven that a child will seek out negative attention as a substitute. This is what you are doing.

    Let's understand. Positive reinforcement is hard to get. Fact of life. However, people are VERY quick to point out your failings. Fact of life. Mature people choose to still seek out the positive. I'm going to throw a quote out there. "Hard right over an easy wrong". This statement says that when faced with a certain choice, you take the right choice, even though it might be much harder than the the easy choice, but in the end wrong choice. Lying is a classic example. Our brains tell us that lying is an escape. We don't have to own up to what we did. We can concoct a story that suits us so we can escape trouble. In the end though, it usually fails, if the lie is big enough. If you just own up in the beginning, and avoid the lie, the outcome happens swifter, and with less punishment. Because lying really irritates people, and only makes things worse.

    The word I'll use now is "INTEGRITY". Integrity denotes a level of self-accountability. This is where you are SEVERELY lacking, and why people really dislike you. You choose to take an easy road out by being mean and pretending to not care. You consistently choose the wrong action, by being mean, and profane. You do not display ignorance, as by your signature, you are well aware that your actions upset people. So, that tells me that you don't care, and therefore severely lack any kind of integrity to be a decent human being.

    Now, let's sum this all up and see where this behavior comes from. Well, we know that a lack of positive reinforcement in a child can elicit behavior that creates negative attention. Eventually, that child learns to cope with the negative attention. It happens in the form of a "I don't care what you think" kind of attitude. This then teaches the child that this type of behavior is acceptable, as it's coming from the top down. Not the other way around. We learn how to act from those above us. So, rinse and repeat. Child then emulates the same behavior that made the child learn that negative attention was the best they could do.

    So, in the end, you absolutely do care what people think of you. You just don't know how to change, as it's been an affliction your entire life. You seek out video games as an escape, and a place you can be successful. You can't function in a team, so you have an unhealthy need to control those around you in a way that you can feel comfortable. This is because your success in this game fuels your self-esteem.

    Now video games are an easy road to success. They give you easy accomplishment, as opposed to going outside and being competitive in a sport, or academically, etc. Video games are designed to be beaten, and therefore can offer easy accomplishment to those that choose the easy road over the hard one (hard right over easy wrong). You fall right into this category. It's textbook dude. You need to take a hard look at yourself, and figure some things out. What you're doing at your age is fixable. You just need to stop doing it. It's hard. You need to find some other outlet, that contributes to your success, and it can't be another video game.

    I'm deadly serious with this Sergad. I don't know you from Adam, but I do know "you". You're textbook. I'm not saying stop playing this game. I'm saying stop playing this game so much, and diversify. Find something else as well. Pick up guitar and learn to play, well (not guitar hero). Go running, or join the track team. Do SOMETHING.

    I can't stress this enough. This is not a joke, and it's not an attack. You're not making any friends here, and it will continue throughout life. It will affect jobs, relationships, etc, etc, etc.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrn Siff View Post
    Interesting choice of words.. I'm not sure they mean what you think they mean?

    Considering that personal attacks are against the EULA here I would never respond to this by saying that there is most likely no-one else more disliked on the whole server than the OP. To label someone by name and say that even Ironwill would squelch them, or to use terms such as: immature, a$$hat, waste of carbon, server wide embarrassment would be wrong as well. To make fun of their physical appearance would be right out.

    So, to the above quoted person I would simply ask: What color is the sky in your world?
    I think maybe before you accuse someone of violating the EULA, you should refrain from posting inflamatory comments like this. I am not trying to start anything with anyone, simply offering my advice... you know, the part of my post that you did not quote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by barecm View Post
    I think maybe before you accuse someone of violating the EULA, you should refrain from posting inflamatory comments like this. I am not trying to start anything with anyone, simply offering my advice... you know, the part of my post that you did not quote.
    I prefer to think of selective quoting as a standalone art-form actually.. there is a wonderful future for it in politics.

    that being said what I want to risk is my own business.

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    NO PARKAY... sorry I dont know how many times I have to explain this... my wife's nickname is Butter and she hate's this game more than anyone, so I use Butter in the names of my toons to lower wife-aggro, It did work at one time, not so much anymore
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrn Siff View Post
    I prefer to think of selective quoting as a standalone art-form actually.. there is a wonderful future for it in politics.

    that being said what I want to risk is my own business.
    omg Kerrn is McCain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by willphase View Post
    omg Kerrn is McCain!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrn Siff View Post
    I would have gotten away with it too if it wasn't for you durn kids!

    does it mean ascots and Scooby snacks for everyone?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoctorWhofan View Post
    does it mean ascots and Scooby snacks for everyone?
    no, but I can offer lower taxes and a better economic plan..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerrn Siff View Post
    no, but I can offer lower taxes and a better economic plan..
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