disappointment

[Return_To_Forever]

Haha, nice thread. Ghallanda delivers man! sheesh

[KatanAztar]

Attention Everyone....
This thread will now be about bunnies

[MAP1974]

[QUOTE=KatanAztar;1916462]Attention Everyone....
This thread will now be about bunnies

can anyone tell me whether a bunny might make a good pet for my young son? pros and cons?

[oogly54]

Um, yeah. I only wanted more LFMs for new content. Um, that is all.

[KatanAztar]

Um, yeah. I only wanted more LFMs for new content. Um, that is all.

You knocked your white dragon out yet? Bout ready to log in to find something to do... could help ya on cleric, caster, or whatever if you still need it.






[QUOTE=MAP1974;1916467]

Attention Everyone....
This thread will now be about bunnies

can anyone tell me whether a bunny might make a good pet for my young son? pros and cons?

Great question

A long-eared, short-tailed, burrowing warm blooded mammal with soft fur. Contrary to popular belief, rabbits are not rodents, like rats or mice, they are lagomorphs. Rabbits are actually more closely related to horses than they are to a rat or a mouse.

Rabbits are active, playful and social. Entertaining to watch, a rabbit can be a very rewarding pet. Their popularity as a pet is growing. They are quiet and do not demand a lot of attention. Properly socialized rabbits are relatively calm and enjoy being around their people. They will allow you to hold them but lots of times they would rather not be held. Rabbits can be litter box trained. Indoor rabbits will love to hop around your house, however rabbits like to chew. If you allow your rabbit to roam free in your house or outside for that matter, be sure to keep things you do not wish the rabbit to chew out of his reach. Rabbits will chew things such as furniture, curtains, and wires. You may want to look into cord protectors, found in most mail order pet supply catalogs. Chewed wires is dangerous for the rabbit and can also be a fire hazard for you. A rabbit must be provided with things it is allowed to chew such as a block of wood. Because most rabbits do not like to be held and cuddled, a rabbit may not be a good choice of a pet for very active children who may not be careful when picking them up or playing around them. Rabbits can be destructive if deprived of attention and appropriate toys. Rabbits are crepuscular, which means they are more active during twilight hours (around 10pm). They sleep most of the daylight hours. Some rabbits will sleep with their eyes open. When Rabbits sleep they will often twitch, and their noses stop wiggling. A happy rabbit will sometimes jump up into the air twisting and flicking its feet and head. Rabbits will show they are unhappy, startled, or warn of danger by thumping their back feet. If a rabbit grunts or squeaks when you touch it, it may be telling you it does not wish to be touched or it may be displaying territorial behavior. Rabbits who are territorial can become aggressive when you suddenly stick your hand into their territory. Spaying and neutering rabbits greatly reduces the risk of this behavior. A rabbit will squeal to express extreme fear or pain. A rabbit that has never been caught by a person may squeal in fear as it is picked up from the ground.

Roughly about 3-16 pounds (1.4-7.5 kg.) depending on the breed. With over 50 breeds of rabbit, there are rabbits as small as a guinea pig and as big as a small spaniel and everywhere in-between.

Rabbits must be kept in a relatively large cage. Most rabbits are kept in outdoor rabbit hutches, however keeping in indoor rabbit is becoming more and more popular. Rabbits can be kept outdoors if they have adequate shelter. They need to be shielded from rain, wind, sun, and drafts. If a rabbit is protected from the elements, they can withstand very cold weather. Some choose to use a wire cage with an enclosed box inside the cage. A 7 pound rabbit should be housed in at least a 2 foot by 2 foot house. Larger rabbits will need larger houses. Some outdoor rabbit houses have self cleaning wire bottoms which allow the urine and **** to drop through the bottom. Outdoor rabbit hutches have an indoor area where the rabbit can get out of the elements and an outdoor area where they can go and lay in the sun. Which ever you choose, it is important that your set up is well ventilated.

A pet rabbit should be fed good quality pellets, fresh alfalfa, timothy or oat hay, water and fresh vegetables. Rabbits will enjoy freshly picked grasses, clover, herbs (be sure what you pick outside for your rabbit is pesticide free!) Water should be fed in a gravity driven bottle that hangs on the side of the hutch or cage. If a rabbit is kept outdoors in the winter, you should have several of these water bottles rotating them with a fresh bottle several times a day as the bottles freeze. Pellets should be fresh (no more than 6 weeks old). As the rabbit gets older less pellets should be fed and fresh hay should be available 24 hours a day. Hay is important to a rabbit's good health, it provides roughage which reduces the danger of hairballs and other blockages. Apple tree twigs also provide good roughage for a rabbit. Some rabbits will eat their soft mushy ****, which is called cecals. This is a normal behavior for a rabbit. A rabbits diet of plants is hard to digest efficiently, and it will **** out lots of undigested nutrients. By eating their **** it gives them a second shot in using all of the nutrition in their food. Also a rabbits **** contains vitamins produced by their intestinal bacteria. Rabbits are unable to absorb the vitamins through the intestinal wall, but can absorb them by eating the ****.

[Phineasj]

[QUOTE=KatanAztar;1916492]You knocked your white dragon out yet? Bout ready to log in to find something to do... could help ya on cleric, caster, or whatever if you still need it.

Great question

A long-eared, short-tailed, burrowing warm blooded mammal with soft fur. Contrary to popular belief, rabbits are not rodents, like rats or mice, they are lagomorphs. Rabbits are actually more closely related to horses than they are to a rat or a mouse.

Rabbits are active, playful and social. Entertaining to watch, a rabbit can be a very rewarding pet. Their popularity as a pet is growing. They are quiet and do not demand a lot of attention. Properly socialized rabbits are relatively calm and enjoy being around their people. They will allow you to hold them but lots of times they would rather not be held. Rabbits can be litter box trained. Indoor rabbits will love to hop around your house, however rabbits like to chew. If you allow your rabbit to roam free in your house or outside for that matter, be sure to keep things you do not wish the rabbit to chew out of his reach. Rabbits will chew things such as furniture, curtains, and wires. You may want to look into cord protectors, found in most mail order pet supply catalogs. Chewed wires is dangerous for the rabbit and can also be a fire hazard for you. A rabbit must be provided with things it is allowed to chew such as a block of wood. Because most rabbits do not like to be held and cuddled, a rabbit may not be a good choice of a pet for very active children who may not be careful when picking them up or playing around them. Rabbits can be destructive if deprived of attention and appropriate toys. Rabbits are crepuscular, which means they are more active during twilight hours (around 10pm). They sleep most of the daylight hours. Some rabbits will sleep with their eyes open. When Rabbits sleep they will often twitch, and their noses stop wiggling. A happy rabbit will sometimes jump up into the air twisting and flicking its feet and head. Rabbits will show they are unhappy, startled, or warn of danger by thumping their back feet. If a rabbit grunts or squeaks when you touch it, it may be telling you it does not wish to be touched or it may be displaying territorial behavior. Rabbits who are territorial can become aggressive when you suddenly stick your hand into their territory. Spaying and neutering rabbits greatly reduces the risk of this behavior. A rabbit will squeal to express extreme fear or pain. A rabbit that has never been caught by a person may squeal in fear as it is picked up from the ground.

Roughly about 3-16 pounds (1.4-7.5 kg.) depending on the breed. With over 50 breeds of rabbit, there are rabbits as small as a guinea pig and as big as a small spaniel and everywhere in-between.

Rabbits must be kept in a relatively large cage. Most rabbits are kept in outdoor rabbit hutches, however keeping in indoor rabbit is becoming more and more popular. Rabbits can be kept outdoors if they have adequate shelter. They need to be shielded from rain, wind, sun, and drafts. If a rabbit is protected from the elements, they can withstand very cold weather. Some choose to use a wire cage with an enclosed box inside the cage. A 7 pound rabbit should be housed in at least a 2 foot by 2 foot house. Larger rabbits will need larger houses. Some outdoor rabbit houses have self cleaning wire bottoms which allow the urine and **** to drop through the bottom. Outdoor rabbit hutches have an indoor area where the rabbit can get out of the elements and an outdoor area where they can go and lay in the sun. Which ever you choose, it is important that your set up is well ventilated.

A pet rabbit should be fed good quality pellets, fresh alfalfa, timothy or oat hay, water and fresh vegetables. Rabbits will enjoy freshly picked grasses, clover, herbs (be sure what you pick outside for your rabbit is pesticide free!) Water should be fed in a gravity driven bottle that hangs on the side of the hutch or cage. If a rabbit is kept outdoors in the winter, you should have several of these water bottles rotating them with a fresh bottle several times a day as the bottles freeze. Pellets should be fresh (no more than 6 weeks old). As the rabbit gets older less pellets should be fed and fresh hay should be available 24 hours a day. Hay is important to a rabbit's good health, it provides roughage which reduces the danger of hairballs and other blockages. Apple tree twigs also provide good roughage for a rabbit. Some rabbits will eat their soft mushy ****, which is called cecals. This is a normal behavior for a rabbit. A rabbits diet of plants is hard to digest efficiently, and it will **** out lots of undigested nutrients. By eating their **** it gives them a second shot in using all of the nutrition in their food. Also a rabbits **** contains vitamins produced by their intestinal bacteria. Rabbits are unable to absorb the vitamins through the intestinal wall, but can absorb them by eating the ****.

well there's some **** i never knew

[ChaelaAnne]

Great question

A long-eared, short-tailed, burrowing warm blooded mammal with soft fur. Contrary to popular belief, rabbits are not rodents, like rats or mice, they are lagomorphs. Rabbits are actually more closely related to horses than they are to a rat or a mouse.

Rabbits are active, playful and social. Entertaining to watch, a rabbit can be a very rewarding pet. Their popularity as a pet is growing. They are quiet and do not demand a lot of attention. Properly socialized rabbits are relatively calm and enjoy being around their people. They will allow you to hold them but lots of times they would rather not be held. Rabbits can be litter box trained. Indoor rabbits will love to hop around your house, however rabbits like to chew. If you allow your rabbit to roam free in your house or outside for that matter, be sure to keep things you do not wish the rabbit to chew out of his reach. Rabbits will chew things such as furniture, curtains, and wires. You may want to look into cord protectors, found in most mail order pet supply catalogs. Chewed wires is dangerous for the rabbit and can also be a fire hazard for you. A rabbit must be provided with things it is allowed to chew such as a block of wood. Because most rabbits do not like to be held and cuddled, a rabbit may not be a good choice of a pet for very active children who may not be careful when picking them up or playing around them. Rabbits can be destructive if deprived of attention and appropriate toys. Rabbits are crepuscular, which means they are more active during twilight hours (around 10pm). They sleep most of the daylight hours. Some rabbits will sleep with their eyes open. When Rabbits sleep they will often twitch, and their noses stop wiggling. A happy rabbit will sometimes jump up into the air twisting and flicking its feet and head. Rabbits will show they are unhappy, startled, or warn of danger by thumping their back feet. If a rabbit grunts or squeaks when you touch it, it may be telling you it does not wish to be touched or it may be displaying territorial behavior. Rabbits who are territorial can become aggressive when you suddenly stick your hand into their territory. Spaying and neutering rabbits greatly reduces the risk of this behavior. A rabbit will squeal to express extreme fear or pain. A rabbit that has never been caught by a person may squeal in fear as it is picked up from the ground.

Roughly about 3-16 pounds (1.4-7.5 kg.) depending on the breed. With over 50 breeds of rabbit, there are rabbits as small as a guinea pig and as big as a small spaniel and everywhere in-between.

Rabbits must be kept in a relatively large cage. Most rabbits are kept in outdoor rabbit hutches, however keeping in indoor rabbit is becoming more and more popular. Rabbits can be kept outdoors if they have adequate shelter. They need to be shielded from rain, wind, sun, and drafts. If a rabbit is protected from the elements, they can withstand very cold weather. Some choose to use a wire cage with an enclosed box inside the cage. A 7 pound rabbit should be housed in at least a 2 foot by 2 foot house. Larger rabbits will need larger houses. Some outdoor rabbit houses have self cleaning wire bottoms which allow the urine and **** to drop through the bottom. Outdoor rabbit hutches have an indoor area where the rabbit can get out of the elements and an outdoor area where they can go and lay in the sun. Which ever you choose, it is important that your set up is well ventilated.

A pet rabbit should be fed good quality pellets, fresh alfalfa, timothy or oat hay, water and fresh vegetables. Rabbits will enjoy freshly picked grasses, clover, herbs (be sure what you pick outside for your rabbit is pesticide free!) Water should be fed in a gravity driven bottle that hangs on the side of the hutch or cage. If a rabbit is kept outdoors in the winter, you should have several of these water bottles rotating them with a fresh bottle several times a day as the bottles freeze. Pellets should be fresh (no more than 6 weeks old). As the rabbit gets older less pellets should be fed and fresh hay should be available 24 hours a day. Hay is important to a rabbit's good health, it provides roughage which reduces the danger of hairballs and other blockages. Apple tree twigs also provide good roughage for a rabbit. Some rabbits will eat their soft mushy ****, which is called cecals. This is a normal behavior for a rabbit. A rabbits diet of plants is hard to digest efficiently, and it will **** out lots of undigested nutrients. By eating their **** it gives them a second shot in using all of the nutrition in their food. Also a rabbits **** contains vitamins produced by their intestinal bacteria. Rabbits are unable to absorb the vitamins through the intestinal wall, but can absorb them by eating the ****.

Whoa, ask and ye shall recieve....

kinda wish i stopped midway through the last paragraph though.

[KatanAztar]

lol copy-paste skills for the win

[Turial]

Um, yeah. I only wanted more LFMs for new content. Um, that is all.

Yeah it took an hour for me to fill up a prey on the hunter LFM. Seems like most people don't want to do the quest or any of the new stuff. Its unfortunate. I may have to grind out the dragon runes to upgrade the DT armor that I will eventually get.

[LeslieWest_GuitarGod]

I started running the new content on the first day it came out. I actually love it. Even though the theme for Mod 8 was "New Player Experience" I think Turbine did a HELL of a job throwing us long time playas some bones. Mod 9 and 10 will be squarely for everyone.

This talk of "elite's" not opening the quest up to all... is bad for the game in my opinion. I will not guild bash though... The Ravenguards of the world will try to do things 1st. And I feel these self-described raid guilds provide a great service to the server and the game. However, more of us guys and gals that have been around since Beta, or even Headstart need to be MORE open and EDUCATE the masses. What is the point of not doing so? To get a quick victory? Again? EVERY NIGHT? Again? Same people. Again? Same people. Again? Same people. And then cry about the grind!?!?!?

With the server population on a temporary rise, we need to realize that WE LONG TIME PLAYERS can play a very important role inside Eberon. WE cant complain that the server population is too low, AND THEN put up "No help wanted signs" in our lfm's. It cant go both ways.

As an officer in the White Council, I can honestly say that our runs are ALWAYS open. If you are serious about the quest, WANT to learn the quest, but never ran it or only did it once? No problem. There are plenty of Council members that would be happy to show you around!

There is a place for the "elites", there is a place for the LARGE majority in this game in ANY quest in this game. Lets mingle a little more folks....

[Sirea]

Would you please post something I don't agree with please, because it's starting to freak me out a LOT.

(I read the post, then say EXACTLY! and then look at who wrote it, and it's almost always you.)

LMAO, maybe it's a woman thing BTW, is it weird that when I see your guild name I default to "White Castle" in my head and have to correct myself? XD

This talk of "elite's" not opening the quest up to all... is bad for the game in my opinion. I will not guild bash though... The Ravenguards of the world will try to do things 1st. And I feel these self-described raid guilds provide a great service to the server and the game. However, more of us guys and gals that have been around since Beta, or even Headstart need to be MORE open and EDUCATE the masses. What is the point of not doing so? To get a quick victory? Again? EVERY NIGHT? Again? Same people. Again? Same people. Again? Same people. And then cry about the grind!?!?!?

With the server population on a temporary rise, we need to realize that WE LONG TIME PLAYERS can play a very important role inside Eberon. WE cant complain that the server population is too low, AND THEN put up "No help wanted signs" in our lfm's. It cant go both ways.

As an officer in the White Council, I can honestly say that our runs are ALWAYS open. If you are serious about the quest, WANT to learn the quest, but never ran it or only did it once? No problem. There are plenty of Council members that would be happy to show you around!

/hug (psst, when we gonna PvP again?)

[Uska]

nvm

[ChaelaAnne]

LMAO, maybe it's a woman thing BTW, is it weird that when I see your guild name I default to "White Castle" in my head and have to correct myself? XD

Must be a woman thing. I don't really live in an area that has White Castles, so... White Council, White Castle.... close enough

[Rindalathar]

I gotta say, I haven't run any of the new stuff yet. This mod hit at the wrong time for me with RL stuff, but I'll run anything new on any setting with you. Now, if I could just figure out how to find time to log on.

[lifestaker]

See the best elitists that are out there have failed and did start as nothing more then a noob, not that they would admit it. But as I have noticed from being one of the best puggers out there (self named) it is hard to pug into a party that will not listen to logic. Now I will be the first to get aggravated with a full party of noobs in a quest, might be one of the last to die as well, I am always one of the first back in cleaning it all up when needed, but I can't teach them anything cuz they refuse to listen to the person that talks without the star. Sadder even still is seeing the same names doing the same quest (normally harder) without trying to learn it more and just wanting to get the right people. Thus the 'you need this runs' to me are them trying to get someone to gather their stones and do the quest for them.

Now for some fun facts:
Yes I have done all the new content 3 times on my cleric, finished first try (nice tankage to all those that were there, 5 noobs to the quest btw, but the ezest run of them all), Failed the second (a ton of tanks.... no dps.. proved dps is a dead art, no noobs to quest), Finished third (300 scrolls, 6 pots, and a good luck hit). Now I have all the enhancements I want on my armor but will be doing again. Why? cuz form the clerics I got while getting the essences for my sorc it enforced the fact that some never learn.

In doing the 3 quest, to get my sorc flagged, the parties we had went and used up 5 different clerics. Only one of them was one I knew, and only two that I would label as good. We had ones that 'knew the way out there' that went and died cuz they say a shinny chest off in neverland, then ask for help, cause a wipe, then drop cuz WE caused his/her armor to need to be repaired. The others just lacked the attention to look at life bars... 4 were lvl 16 clerics, and one lvl 14 cleric (the better of 5) btw.

Now note that I love to pug and will never stop for a guild run unless it was announced prior, but to fail cuz of one or two people that are for lack of better words unskilled and ignorant gets very aggravating and develops the screw the noobs parties or the players that go and start stuff with everyone (benesato... want me to name more?), and encourages people to play with guildies only.

So in thus my Disappointment is not the lack of people trying to do a quest to say but rather the lack of people wanting to learn a quest they wish to do, or the lack of 'first time doing', 'learning session', or 'guide needed' lfms. That and the lack of people joining those parties when they are up. By disscouraging people that wish to learn and are willing you destroy the potential that person has to be better then what they were. Thus making the same wank we always have and the same names being excepted by the elitists.

Ya a repair bill hurts people at times, scroll money is almost always misplaced, and lost major pots, but that is the life of a pugger. gp is gp, a gamer is a gamer, a friend is a friend, and respect is respect. You just have to ask what is more important to you at times? decency or finishing? Old friends or new ones? Honor or pride?

Now disappointment in people is long lasting, grudges never lift, ignorance is bliss, and there is always something to loot run. My disappointment is in lack of skills from people as of resent, a lasting grudge against some guilds (not all the people in them), and the simple fact that is how it will be. Pity the gamer who plays to have fun sometimes, and honor those that do nothing but is kinda a bad outlook to me.

[oogly54]

FYI, I completed the my last quest on elite yesterday around 5EST. (Maxed favor again) I got home early due to a sick kid and was able to log on when he went to sleep. We got it done quickly and efficiently. I also got a group to run kobold elite again. Less efficient, but we had 6 "experts" and no one leader.

As for the many people complaining that all the LFMs are "know quest only" LFMs, I call BS. I had LFMs up for over two hours of time on saturday for the new content and could not fill my group. No pre-requs required. If someone else has an LFM up that doesn't allow you to play in that group, it never stops you from putting up your own LFM. Sounds to me like we have a lot of excuses for not want to do hard content, which is only hard until you know what to do. Are most waiting for the "power gamers" to figure things out and then steal methods?

Even last night there were more shroud/hound runs than new quest runs and they also seemed to fill up faster. It looks as though everyone wants there quick easy loot without the fun/adventure/challenge. If they have to think or adapt they Bitc4.

So what the Reaver is harder, good. Adapt. So what he shroud is harder, good. Stop looking for easy loot runs and look for a good adventure. Was the Reaver actually a good quest? Nobody could honestly think that quest should be left as the AFK loot run.

Are DDO players lazy?

[Sweets]

Less efficient, but we had 6 "experts" and no one leader.


Now now Ooogly that run went just fine. A little slower than it needed to be but it was done in a good manner and wasn't that big of a problem to knock out.
I have ran that Elite a few times now with various toons and have found that if you have a dam good evasion party member with the right weapons for the end that it is a brezze (Godmode, Lizza,Jak) to name a few.
Not having a party leader worked well seeing how everyone in the party usally leads runs anyway.
A run without a know it all or ego trip was nice. Now someone pleas bring the servers up))

[Yurtrus]

oogly54 - Is the man.... What you said that started this post is pure genius. /signed

Unfortunately I did not see your posts as I was running with immunitank, naos, oakley, sladist and the bunch.

We went into the WD last night but did not get to the fight in time.. the maze caught us off guard and when we got to the dragon, well the giants were kicking his butt. One tail whip and everyone but me was on the ground. Hey it happens.. Had a kick as* time doing it though...

Would love to see how you run it.. Get some pointers..

Keyword: fifa

Remember that word lol

PS.. the comments I seem to hear most often including my own are.. Wow, new content, but we have some much other stuff to do yet. Gotta get my ring of thelis ( holding me up here on my new 16 lowbie I really want my ring of lies too. I need to do more shrouds so I can get the ingredients I need to craft my items. When it comes down to it.. ( now I want my DT Shroud ) but I still need my other items as well.. and they require older content to get them.

As much as I love running the new stuff ( and it is awesome, even a great job done over in korthos ( love the flying dragon ) graphically ) I think most people ( well some ) don't quite think they are up to the challenge of a level 17 quest with cr 20+s with the equipment they have.. Doing the lower stuff to build better items will get them through it that much faster and easier.. Hope that makes some sense.. Just kinda typing and rambling..

Maybe if you have time later around 6:30pm EST ( 11/4/08 ) you might hook up with immuni and the guild and do some new content..

[Ranmaru2]

Samadhi, I just recently pulled my first wounder, and sadly they are just SO freakin' expensive on the AH. I think it's more important to keep enough heal pots to go from just res'd to full health three times, and enough scrolls to try and make up a really bad party to a cleric. This keeps me relativly broke all the time.

I think there are other things to do.... A general DPS weapon can be useful as well. I'm just sayin', people shouldn't have to feel like they have to spend a fortune on the auction house.

Check the House D Vendor there are more Wounding/Enfeebling weapons in there that disappear on a daily basis than you'll find cruising around on the marketplace forum. I've seen wounding/enfeebling scimitars/khopeshes/etc in there plenty of times.

Plus you can get a regular +5 wounder to still keep some bonus of DR penetration and have the con damage still there. You don't need puncturing on the weapon to have it be a useful stat dmg weapon. If you're wounding/enfeebling and another is weakening/puncturing, you're hitting the mob with the best of both worlds. Also, wounding/enfeebling has the added bonus of making it easier to trip mobs so they wont heal themselves......

edit: Also, I'm on the same train as Oogly. There are no LFMs up really...I barely saw any over the weekend as well as barely any last night when I was on (granted I went to sleep early cause jury duty is boring as heck! ).

Plus, Garamol is no excuse not to run new content. The Monastery of the Scorpion on norm/hard is 10x better of a loot run than garamol....

[LukeB]

Oogly. you are mostly right in what you were saying about the LFMs. I am not to a level yet to worry about the new stuff (level 13 cleric/fighter).
Would join your quests anytime as it is just fun to be in a group and not repeating the same stuff you can do solo all the time.
As far as learning new adventures it would be great to tag along and learn but most just want to run as fast as possible. Looked at one adventure the other night and had run 6 times previously but could not recall most of the quest as was never near enough to the front to see what was going on.
Most guys dont want to run with groups that are all noobs and we do get left in a position of just tagging along and trying to pick up what we can.
By the way can someone please advise what is "WOP?
Also with the server being offline again I have had no substantial runs since last week. That is not from a lack of trying though