DC Save symbols

[Merkinsal]

Just was told the symbol for a mobs reflex save in a web is a sparkly blue thing, 6 sides maybe, vs a blue shield for a spell resistance save. Does anybody know if these are correct?

I have not noticed any save symbols for will and fortitude but have seen a smokey effect on mobs when Fod fails.

Anyway, I cannot find any documentation on this. In fact, I was always sure that sparkly symbol must be the spell resistance save people talk about. I don't remember ever seeing a blue sheild for a spell pen save. I would certainly think that would show up over Harry's head when I miss with Waves of Exhaustion.

[eyepuppy]

Just was told the symbol for a mobs reflex save in a web is a sparkly blue thing, 6 sides maybe, vs a blue shield for a spell resistance save. Does anybody know if these are correct?

I have not noticed any save symbols for will and fortitude but have seen a smokey effect on mobs when Fod fails.

Anyway, I cannot find any documentation on this. In fact, I was always sure that sparkly symbol must be the spell resistance save people talk about. I don't remember ever seeing a blue sheild for a spell pen save. I would certainly think that would show up over Harry's head when I miss with Waves of Exhaustion.

It's not a shield as in the shield that is shown when a mob is warded (and that's a purple shield I think). The shield he is refering to is the blue barrier that wraps the mob that you are casting on. The person who told you that was 100% right. The little blue sparks you see (best way I can describe it) are the mobs making the reflex save. Just put up a disco in the shroud or the hound area. When you fail the SP check on a mob, a blue barrier will surround the mob for a few seconds. That is a SP failure animation.

[Merkinsal]

Actually I have never used dancing ball in hound and have never seen any blue shields enveloping anything in response to anything I have done, and not in shroud when I do use ball. I clearly remember seeing the blue sparkly over the heads of multiple casters at about level 8 in Tempes Spine when they resisted PK. That was no reflex save. I was talkin to a fellow guildie in chat about it and MTd in party chat which led to a conversation with the party leader as to why I was having a "debate" as to whether I was gimped or not.

[Lillitheris]

Actually the blue and white sparkles usually mean the monster is immune to your spell (for example, an undead creature being immune to Finger of Death). That's not the case when they make their reflex save against your Web. It has been bugged like that for ever and still hasn't been fixed.
Try shooting a fireball at a group of monsters. If they make their reflex saves, you will see the normal blue hexagon above their heads, not the blue and white sparkling 'immune' message.

Yeah, a succesful spell resistance check (or from your POW, a failed spell penetration check) is shown as a blue 'shield'.

The 'smoking' effect you're describing comes from the damage portion of certain spells (mostly insta-kill i.e. FoD, PK, Slay Living, Destruction). These spells do damage on a succesful save.
As a side-note, in PnP that damage was useful even though the insta-kill failed. In DDO it's the other way around. With the monsters having so much hit points, the damage is negligible. It will only aggro the monster on you. Which is not nice.

[Angelus_dead]

Actually the blue and white sparkles usually mean the monster is immune to your spell (for example, an undead creature being immune to Finger of Death). That's not the case when they make their reflex save against your Web. It has been bugged like that for ever and still hasn't been fixed.

Being hit with Web grants you temporary immunity to other Webs, which could mean an immune sparkle.

[Merkinsal]

Being hit with Web grants you temporary immunity to other Webs, which could mean an immune sparkle.

Ah, so what I saw must have been a fear immunity. Nice.

[Vivanto]

Yup, blue dots are immunity, same as you see on yourself when got 2 overriding pallly auras

Save is a blue dice above the mobs head.

[Lillitheris]

Being hit with Web grants you temporary immunity to other Webs, which could mean an immune sparkle.

I still count this as a bug, because it looks like the monster is immune to your Web. Like spiders and oozes are. The 'immune to other webs' effect should happen in the background and not show the blue and white sparkles.

Come to think of it, I remember reading the following in the combat log: 'You help xxx with web immunity.'

*Shrug* Seems like a half-assed work-around to me.