But I like being evil...

[Hadara]

Why cant we be Evil?
Is it agaisnt the law of the game or something?
I never played pnp...just played since Alpha

I can tell you about House Cannith...about the Warforged Titan...about how to tank Velah and Rhindvutha...but other than that, why cant we be evil?

And where did our Unholy weapons go?!

[captain1z]

because you did not go to evil medical school.

[Bubbahotepp]

I made an evil character. I had him join a PD guild, then proceeded to kill as many player characters as possible untill they booted me. Grease and Ice Storm were my preferred methods.

Nothin works better than greasing the outside path right before the fire elementals in TS.

[Lithic]

Why no evil?

First of all, evil characters shouldnt get along terribly well. We tried an evil group in PnP and it was disastrous, though honestly fun hehe. Evil alignment in an MMO would likely just be an excuse to try to greif others, and would result in less fun for the victims (shortterm) and evil character (long term as they become known). People act like mule-chasms as it is, if they could pretend they had a role-playing reason it would be much much worse.

Secondly, there is no real effect of alignment in DDO vs D&D. Alignments DON'T MATTER (one exception is class restrictions). The only difference is a small amount of equipment you may or may not be able to use, none of which is earth-shattering if you can't get it. No quest is barred to the good (And I know of at least one that should be the bane of paladins), neither would any be barred from the evil.

[Falco_Easts]

Only if evil actions have cosequences.
Do something evil and get locked up if caught. Character uplayable for 1 RL day per DDO month in jail.

[Hadara]

Just because if they added Evil alignment doesnt make it have to be PvP
Maybe it adds some sort of penalty towards diplomacy

And give us back our Unholy, Unholy Burst and Pure Evil weps
or give Evil chars -10% to heals, +2 Dodge Bonus to AC when getting attacked by an Evil Outsider and -2 AC when getting attack by a Good Outsider (Eladrin in Devils or Cleric/Palis or other LG people in PvP)

They should give bonuses, ect to Alignment other than having to be LG for Monk, Pali and Cleric and weapon modifers i.e. Axiomatic, True Law, Anarchic, True Chaos, Pure Good, Holy, ect.

[Hadara]

because You Did Not Go To Evil Medical School.

I Did So!!!
:d

[Nahual]

Another reason also stated in Player handbooks in PnP

Evil Alingment usually is reserved for your enemy and don't encourage people playing evil characters.

All my friends that made evil characters ended up dying at some point in the adventure. Why?? I'm glad you asked because a lot of people don't play Evil they play kind of stupid Evil which would really be bad for a MMORPG.

[Cupcake]

My 2 cents on this subject...

Wherein I can see how it would be hard to have evil in DDO.. the game that is...

EQ2 has evil alignments.

They have their own territory good can go to evil and vice versa with consequences.

I tried playing an evil character. When I was told to go kill some innocent peoples I deleted the character LOL.

Maybe that is why I like paladins so much.

[WeaselKing]

First of all, evil characters shouldnt get along terribly well.

Umm lawful evil characters ought to be able to get along okay.

[Tanka]

because you did not go to evil medical school.

"I've got a PhD in Horribleness."

[Inspire]

"i've Got A Phd In Horribleness."

! Qft!!!!

[Tanka]

! Qft!!!!

...These are not the Hammer.

[Noctus]

The problem with "Evil" as an alignment is that many people see it and start acting crazy bat-shi evil "i need to burn down that orphanage, stab everyone in the back and steal from my companions, just because"-Evil.

Behaviour which would be better described as the extrem interpretation of Chaotic Evil, bordering on demonic behaviour (not to confuse with devilish, LE).
You cant have a cooperative group game with this behaviour. Although i have to concede that certain parts of the evil spectrum could be effectively played in a RPG (a la "The Soprans"-Evil, organised crime level), mostly the LE kind.

But than many will see evil and start acting the way 1st described. And mostly it will just be an excuse for grieving and acting like a 15 year old @sshole.

So better not to implement it.




P.S.
I actually was the DM of a LE P&P-group, which lasted from level 1 to 19, and over 2 year IRL. They considered every way of solving a problem fast and with the most gain and least risk to themself. They acted more like if you had called on the mob to rescue the princess from the dragon.
It was actually fun to see the other side of the coin afther over 15 years of playing the good (or at least neutral) heroes. But we made an informal agreement before starting the campaign. More devilish behaviour, no crazy EVIL, no Psychopaths, no "i get 1st watch and slit everyones throath, yay for me, i just quadrupeled my equipment".

[Tenkari_Rozahas]

Another reason also stated in Player handbooks in PnP

Evil Alingment usually is reserved for your enemy and don't encourage people playing evil characters.

All my friends that made evil characters ended up dying at some point in the adventure. Why?? I'm glad you asked because a lot of people don't play Evil they play kind of stupid Evil which would really be bad for a MMORPG.

Is that the opposite of Lawful stupid paladins??

[jmelanie7]

I made an evil character. I had him join a PD guild, then proceeded to kill as many player characters as possible untill they booted me. Grease and Ice Storm were my preferred methods.

Nothin works better than greasing the outside path right before the fire elementals in TS.

This answeres the BEST why we do not have EVIL alignments in DDO. This kind of behavior, that CAN be defended by: I was only RPing.

Evil should not come back, for THAT reason, and THAT one only.

[deathtouch]

I made an evil character. I had him join a PD guild, then proceeded to kill as many player characters as possible untill they booted me. Grease and Ice Storm were my preferred methods.

Nothin works better than greasing the outside path right before the fire elementals in TS.

You sir are my hero, that is the funniest thing i have ever read!

[baddax]

I made an evil character. I had him join a PD guild, then proceeded to kill as many player characters as possible untill they booted me. Grease and Ice Storm were my preferred methods.

Nothin works better than greasing the outside path right before the fire elementals in TS.

1) Are you sure the Character was evil?
2) This act is not evil. Its only Evil if its not funny, which it of course was.

[baddax]

Umm lawful evil characters ought to be able to get along okay.

Sure they can, look at the legions of devils. They fight well together and never seem to bicker. The key to Lawful Evil is Order through threats, intimidation,punishment and outright killing of those who dont follow the rules. Hey kinda reminds me of my work (except for the killing part, but come to think of it there have been a few coleagues who are missing for some time now).

[Talon_Moonshadow]

Which quest would your Evil char like to do?
Help Garrison?
Help Baudry?
Help the Eladrin?
Save Stormreach from ......?

Which dialog option would you choose?

Tell me what wll your evil char be doing exactly?