Warpriest 67 A/C 56 Intimidate

[eyepuppy]

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just commenting on this bolded part the point of this build is that it's a self healing intimitank not a cleric people are too hung up on not getting this or that cleric spell he doesn't care he went 11 cleric got his heal spell he's happy

I know. But he shouldn't call himself a cleric. He should call himself a tank. Warpriests have the ability to heal the party. It's just misleading.

[SlipperyPete]

Your comments doesn't make this build solid in mod 9 especially since you can always get a real intimidator and cleric in a group. These other builds either do intimidate/melee better or clericing better..

Wow, some people just can't get past the fact that every cleric in the game isn't there to follow you around and baby sit you health bar.

[Chaos000]

I know. But he shouldn't call himself a cleric. He should call himself a tank. Warpriests have the ability to heal the party. It's just misleading.

Note he specifically didn't call himself a healer. Not all cleric's heal, they just have the potential TO perform that role. Doesn't mean he HAS to just because a couple people keep dying left and right unless there's someone watching over their health bar. Just like not every rogue/evasion splash will have trap skills (usually they'll just dump the points into open lock and disregard the rest) and not every wiz/sorc is built hardy enough to kite monsters through firewalls.

You can argue that a priest that doesn't heal isn't really a priest. Perhaps he wears the outfit, has the funny haircut and is often the first person to enter a fray disregarding everything til after all the bodies have fallen. Fights first. prays for the dead after.

If he fought TIL someone starts taking damage and he cared for their needs he would be a warmedic.

Even a non-healing cleric would probably have more sp than a paladin would so Warpriest is fine. Built to tank... more levels of cleric than pali...

you know what's misleading? ATM machines... Automatic Teller Machine machine. Who thought that up?

[maddmatt70]

Wow, some people just can't get past the fact that every cleric in the game isn't there to follow you around and baby sit you health bar.

17 cleric or 18 cleric and 2 or 3 melee is better. I run with several battle clerics. I have a caster cleric with a 40 wis and heighten who looks to destruct and cc everything in sight. I don't believe a cleric should babysit that is inefficient. My comments in this thread are that this build is inefficient. I also agree with the statements by Eyepuppy that this build is not really a cleric but rather a tank and should be analyzed as such. 11 cleric levels for the heal spell is not worth it in my opinion...

[SlipperyPete]

17 cleric or 18 cleric and 2 or 3 melee is better. I run with several battle clerics. I have a caster cleric with a 40 wis and heighten who looks to destruct and cc everything in sight. I don't believe a cleric should babysit that is inefficient. My comments in this thread are that this build is inefficient. I also agree with the statements by Eyepuppy that this build is not really a cleric but rather a tank and should be analyzed as such. 11 cleric levels for the heal spell is not worth it in my opinion...

Well if I remember one of the OPs original intentions for the build was to be an efficient solo toon so the 11 levels of cleric is debatable. Along with heal comes resist, prot, death ward, restore etc.

Judging by the length of the thread however this has been debated ad nauseum so I'll leave my remarks end with - great build, after seeing what changes the next mod brings I may be building one myself.

[Durack]

I appreciate all the varied replies; they spark debate, discussion, and great ideas. All of these combined with the fact that player’s can design their own builds are what make this game the best MMO on the market. So many other MMO’s lock players into a cookie cutter build with limited selections and capabilities, offering nothing truly to separate different characters, save raid, or unique gear. But some seem to be missing the point of what I have tried to accomplish and have accomplished with this Warpriet build. This build is not meant to be played as a nannybot, not in the least. I do not sit in the back and let other classes grab the aggro, take damage, and wait to only heal them. I do so much more when I play this build. Since I already have 3 other cleric builds that function in this capacity or a variance there of, I wanted something unique.

The build is an intimatank, capable of looking after itself, as well as other’s in quests and raids. However, I never sold it as a replacement for a full fledged cleric in any fashion. I already have those and this is not that type of build, and shouldn’t be played in that fashion.

I have seen some other intim builds in application within the game and I feel they arn't necessarily function better, just differen't. As one previous poster said, “other Intim builds would out perform this one” and that could be true to some degree. Other builds may be more designed to put out more dps than this one, but you can’t have everything. I chose rather to focus on the self clerical buffing, self-healing, and augmenting party assistance healing via scrolls. I have an intimapally and I can say this, that build does only one thing better, and that’s give an aura to surrounding party members. It, contrary to what another poster said, does not out heal this build via use of lay on hands. Lay on hands has a limited amount of uses and wand healing at end game is almost laughable. The warpriest has 1100 mana and unlimited scroll usage, I would argue this is more than enough to look after myself and throw a heal to one of my allies until the true nannybot gets to him. (Example: I have yet to see a 13 Ftr/3 Pally build intim the Hound and then sick around after to assist in scroll healing the puppies after they are charmed.)

Some I think are failing to see what the build truly offer’s, VERSITILITY…I designed the build to do more than just intim, grab aggro, and nothing else. The build can also assist in backup healing, raising the squishy nannybot after getting too close to the hound and dying. Yes, I’m well aware that this shouldn’t even occur if the cleric pays attention to their placement but I see this happen more often than it should. Also the raises could be facilitated by a shroud crafted item, I know, but, again VERSITILITY and I have bailed out many of the more traditional builds both melee and cleric than I care to count.

These are but a few examples of what the build can do. Mod9 will NOT nullify this build, not in the least. If anything it will further solidify the melee side of the build as I plan on going four more levels of fighter. Giving me more total build feats, improved overall melee damage via feats/enhancements, and opening Stalwart Defender (until we see if we get racial dwarven defender). Is the build a replacement for a dps minded intimatank, nope. Is it the "do all" build where a more traditional cleric will be obsolete, nope. The build is neither of these, but to say it does not have merit or a well earned position as a versatile intimatank is just foolhardy. I have been the main intim in every raid and quest in this game, with total success, and many completions to prove it. Many a pugger couldn’t believe a build with a cleric icon could accomplish what I said the build could do until they observed me do exactly what I say it can do, with their own eyes, in game, and in the raid.

I can respect everyone’s opinion, it’s what makes us unique as people but because it’s not a build YOU would roll does not invalidate the build, nor does it mean the build does not function exactly as it was intended to be implemented or played in game…

In closing, I want to thank every one of you that took the time to post in my thread, either for or against the build or battle clerics in general. It shows passion for the game and for my most beloved class…

See you in Stormreach,
Durrack
Inferus Sus

[KingOfCheese]

I have bailed out many of the more traditional builds both melee and cleric than I care to count.

I have been the main intim in every raid and quest in this game and with total success and many completions to prove it. Many a pugger couldn’t believe a build with a cleric icon could accomplish what I said the build could do until they observed me do exactly what I say it can do with their own eyes, in game, and in the raid.

I can unequivocally confirm all of the above. When I see a Durack WarPriest in a Hound or VOD, I know that it is going to go very well. If I were assembling a team that needs an Intim, the WarPriest is the first draft pick. It just doesn't fail on its principle mission. AND it is capable of fixing mistakes/errors made by others. Other intim builds may be *better* from a min/max perspective (although it is essentially moot, because the WarPriest just simply succeeds--is 110% success better than 105%?). But these other intim builds cannot save the party when other things go wrong. The WarPriest does.

[soupertc]

I saw this thread awhile ago and decided I wanted to try something diffrent. He's only level 6 so far....but it's a pretty good build. I've changed something and am takin my levels a bit diffrent....but overall I can see why he says the things he does. Overall I think what the people who are the naysayers are not considering is the player himself. It sounds like he knows what he's doin which means his character is gonna be pretty good. I've always said it's the driver not the car in this game. Someone could make a toon in this game with all +3 tomes and UBER raid/shroud gear and still be a weak link in a group....but if someone KNOWS how to play, any toon will be potent in thier hands.