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    I didn't find it addressed anywhere...


    When some of the older quests go away (some harbor quests after the next mod), will the favor be reduced? Will the quests still show on our Favor screen (with the favor) or will they go away, along with the favor?

    Just wondered since I have some lower-level folks and I don't want to run all of the quests there if they are going away.

    Thanks much.
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    It was answered...although not 100% clearly... in a dev post. All existing favor will be maintained and it looks like favor for the revamped quests will just take the place of favor of the old version of the quests.

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    Can't find the link, but yes, essentially that is correct.
    The only change is that the new favour is different from the old favour. One is Coin Lords, the other is Free Agents (forget which is which).

    Pre-existing characters who have already done the old-versions of those quests will not earn any new favour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerendil View Post
    Can't find the link, but yes, essentially that is correct.
    The only change is that the new favour is different from the old favour. One is Coin Lords, the other is Free Agents (forget which is which).

    Pre-existing characters who have already done the old-versions of those quests will not earn any new favour.
    You mean this link?

    I almost feel like Mystic Theurge....

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    Thanks for the info. So it looks like the names will change but the favor remains the same...maybe.

    I would hate to be at Turbine if they lower the favor from the old quests though!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringos View Post
    Thanks for the info. So it looks like the names will change but the favor remains the same...maybe.

    I would hate to be at Turbine if they lower the favor from the old quests though!
    You mean, like they did with PoP?
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    OK a handful of quest names have been changed/substituted for the old ones based on what is on Risia right now.

    Goodblades 3 quests:
    Quest for the Ancient Daggers (lvl 1 - 3 coin lord) is now Heyton's Rest (lvl 1 - 2 coin)
    Search for the Rare Scrolls (lvl 1 - 3 coin) is now The Storehouse's Secret (lvl 1 - 2 Coin)
    Steal the Healing Elixer (lvl 1 - 3 coin) is now Redemption (lvl 1 - 3 coin)

    Sewer Rescue (lvl 1 - 3 Coin) is now Sacrifices (lvl 2 - 3 coin)
    The Missing Ward (lvl 1 - 2 house J) is now Necromancer's Doom (lvl 1 - 2 J)
    Survive the Low Road (lvl 1 - 3 coin) is now Stopping the Sahuagin (lvl 1 -3 coin)

    Taking Stock (wavecrest) (Lvl 1 - 2 Coin) is now The Collaborator (lvl 1 - 2 Coin)
    A Matter of Protection (lvl 1 - 2 house D) is now The Cannith Crystal (Lvl 1 -2 D)

    Levels on a few old quests appeared to be different (but were not on Korthos)
    Home Sweet Sewer was lvl 1 - 2 Coin is now lvl 3 - 2 Coin
    Archniphoia was lvl 1 - 2 Coin is now lvl 2 - 2 Coin
    An Explosive Situation was lvl 1 - 2 Coin is now lvl 3 - 2 Coin

    New Quests:
    Miserys Peak - lvl 3 - Free Agent Favor


    Highlighted in Red are the changes I saw and amoung them were a DROP In favor of some of the old Goodblade quests.

    One other thing, the base EXP on many of the renamed quests appears to have been lowered slightly....ggrrrrr
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    Yeah Zenako, I noticed the whole 'lower xp' thing myself.
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    I'm slightly bummed that Sewer Rescue has been changed at all. I consider that to be one of the "perfect" short quests in the game.

    That and Forgotten Caverns are the quick and easy (if done right) quests that have always let me know if the PUG I just joined is going to be worth hanging out with for any length of time. I've often suggested one or the other of those quests, whichever is level appropriate, when a PUG doesn't have a clear direction. If they're even halfway good, singly and as a group, it will show. If they're not, the dungeon will show that very clearly without the huge time investment other quests sometimes need before they get hairy.
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    You shouldn't “lose” any available favor. (Meaning you won't have to repeat these quests.) However, since the XP was lowered in some of these quests you won't have as much favor available in the Coin Lord faction. (Just like when the XP was lowered in Gianthold quests.)

    If you're absolutely interested in having the highest available favor then there are a couple new lowbie quests to run. The only thing I wish is that all the harbor quests that were “solo only” would get normal-elite settings in the new harbor.
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    I'm not too concerned about the favor, although I do have someone zeroing in on 1750. i should probably finish the grind before she gets set back 6 points.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ringos View Post
    I'm not too concerned about the favor, although I do have someone zeroing in on 1750. i should probably finish the grind before she gets set back 6 points.
    One thing I noted while updating my info from last night is that a couple of the currently only SOLO option level 1 quests are now S/N/H/E quests and thus instead of a flat 2 Base Favor you can now get up to 6 favor for them. Notes are all at home right now. Tracked the EXP and settings of the renamed and doubled checked the current versions of the quests. One thing I noted is that the data I had in my spreadsheet does not reflect the current EXP settings on a few of those quests 9many are still the same). Must have missed a tweaking along the way.

    So it looks like we may have about the same total Favor from the renamed quests, perhaps just moved about a bit. (Instead of 9,9,9 for the goodblades, we now have 6,6,9 for a loss of 6 possible favor. While at the same time IIRC two of the old flat SOLO only quests that have been good for just 2,2 are now N/H/E quests where you can get 6,6 possible favor for a gain of 8 potentially... Again notes at home....
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