WTT w/p dagger

[rivrat13]

want to trade a +1 w/p dagger has no damage

looking for a +2con, +2dex, and +2wis tome for it.


would consider

different +2 tome combo
combination of +2 tomes and a bloodstone or spectral gloves

[bobbysmooth]

Did you get any offers at all?

[Capstern]

Its odd I would like to know if he did as well
I got almost no action on the w/p ss I had

It almost like the w/p maket is going the way of the US economy right now

[Belwaar]

Its odd I would like to know if he did as well
I got almost no action on the w/p ss I had

It almost like the w/p maket is going the way of the US economy right now

HAHAHA! I would offer to take it off your hands...but I'm broke...

[ducetrae]

i believe that there is only a few uber wealthy enough players to afford them and they already have as many as they want. yet the ones that are being pulled and advertised are still being sold as if they were still sought after by those who can afford them . however because those that can afford them dont want them there are no buyers.
inn short you are askin to much or the expected asking price is detering others from even making an offer . honestly most people dont need w/p to be effiient at killing. it is nice to have ....very nice but my dual vorpals and w/p bow when used with man shot is an ok sub for the cost of W/p one handers it works for most bottom line is it works .

[Jaysensen]

Cap I want your SS, but I dont think I got what you need.

I think 3 +2 tomes is a good deal for a dagger. I would do that trade, in fact Im gonna check what tomes I have and PM him - and I dont even need another dagger.

W/P > vorpal if you are killing something yourself or with maybe 1 other person. In a Raid, Vorpal >>>>>> W/P. W/P allows you to sacrifice STR for DEX. Which translates into damage for AC.

Manyshot has a timer. You cant even compare ranged and melee, come on dude. you know better than that.

[Amabel]

In a Raid, Vorpal >>>>>> W/P.

I disagree. It's just that it's FAR more rare to have a raid group fitted out with WoP, whereas almost everyone has two vorpals. But if everyone has the gear, WoP FTW.

[Lehrman]

Its odd I would like to know if he did as well
I got almost no action on the w/p ss I had

It almost like the w/p maket is going the way of the US economy right now

I think what happened is that the price of WoP became so inflated that a lot of players who wanted them decided that they didn't want them that badly and they specced their guys differently. Rogues started making radience2 rapiers and other finesse builds made LS2s and other shroud gear, etc.

I remember when a WoP dagger used to AH for about 750k plat and WoP SS for about 1mil-1.2 mil plat. Now a WoP dagger is usually on the AH for a min bid of 1-1.5 mil plat and a buyout of 2mil. WoP SS are almost non-existent on the AH. WoP rapiers have a 7-10 mil plat value as well...The op wants three +2 tomes that on the AH would also be posted at inflated values (500k-800k plat), but with the frequency of tome drops its probably an even deal.

[ducetrae]

Cap I want your SS, but I dont think I got what you need.

I think 3 +2 tomes is a good deal for a dagger. I would do that trade, in fact Im gonna check what tomes I have and PM him - and I dont even need another dagger.

W/P > vorpal if you are killing something yourself or with maybe 1 other person. In a Raid, Vorpal >>>>>> W/P. W/P allows you to sacrifice STR for DEX. Which translates into damage for AC.

Manyshot has a timer. You cant even compare ranged and melee, come on dude. you know better than that.

i was not saying that 2 vorps was superior i was saying that my 2 vorps and manyshot W/P bow is an adequate sub for not having 2 W/P weapons and i think that is what players are turning to instead of destroying thier characters playability by trading all thier good stuff W/P is just not worth it dont get me wrong it is great i love it and i do think he is asking a good price for 3 tomes .i ts just that some or most people are asking for trades consisting of boots of innocent spectral gloves and a bloodstone for a W/P dagger or ss. they are not worth that and that is why many threads get no replies or pm's. they are not as rare as they used to be .....still good but not as rare as they used to be .

[Jaysensen]

It's just that it's FAR more rare to have a raid group fitted out with WoP, whereas almost everyone has two vorpals. .

Exactly. In theory W/P on all melee is the most efficient and I would agree, far more efficient than vorpal. But in an actual raid, not even a PUG...Vorpal >>>>> W/P.

[Jaysensen]

i was not saying that 2 vorps was superior i was saying that my 2 vorps and manyshot W/P bow is an adequate sub for not having 2 W/P weapons

W/P on a bow is pretty slow except once every two minutes. A better suggestion is to use just a wounder or a burst puncturer. Any implication that a bow is a good substitute for even a burst puncturing rapier is bad.

And Like I said in the other post, I often jsut use vorp.

[sirgog]

I disagree. It's just that it's FAR more rare to have a raid group fitted out with WoP, whereas almost everyone has two vorpals. But if everyone has the gear, WoP FTW.

I find this not to be the case at all.

Nearly every group I run in, everyone has Con damage weapons (many of which are quite a bit weaker than W/P daggers - you might have people dualweilding +3 Wounders, or using a +4 Puncturing Rapier and a +2 Wounding Dagger). On the other hand, I've put the Vorpals away. Haven't used them in weeks, and really only keep them for future quests that might have orange-named Vampires that Vorp more readily than they disrupt.

[flash145]

One of the new sections has mobs that are immune to stat dmg completely. Makes W/P weapons useless. If you think this is only a one time occurance, you have a real short view of end game.

I would not be surprised that mobs we fight when we reach lvl 20 will have deathward, ie eladrinn fortress, and immunity to stat dmg by special auras.

It'll be back to plain old DPS on normal encounter mobs. BUT hey, I could be all wrong . . . . . . . care to lay a plat bet?

[Ladywolf]

I think w/p will be good for a couple more years anyway

[Lehrman]

I think w/p will be good for a couple more years anyway

After all the stuff you traded for yours, they better be

[Capstern]

I did a test run recently

I used the Tor well cause its fun and my favorite mission for just tearing the game up.

I have dual radiance rapiers with all the extra stuff like fire good burst etc

Ran tor using just those and yes they tear up the mobs very fast from a DPS stand point...then ran again with my w/p rapier (<-- one of the 3 first on original khyber - has the wear adn tear to prove before being bound) and w/p ss and just mowed the mobs like wheat grass!!!

w/p in the right hands will smoke a vorpal or anything else against all but undead and red named. But again the best build for it would be a improved crit range barb dual wielding rapiers

With more undead coming I expect w/p market to dip some more but again it will never suck to the point of where vorpals are now compared to where they were when vorpaling was crit range based that is a market change.

Waiting for Turbine to introduce a buff that protects mobs from con damage or just stat damage heh.

[Tulsa_Doom]

First 3 rapiers on original Khyber. Nah.

Itrainz
Soul
Artemis
Reflection
Tawnie
There are more, I just need some time to recollect.

They all had w/p rapiers before. That said. Who cares?

[Ninety]

First 3 rapiers on original Khyber. Nah.

Itrainz
Soul
Artemis
Reflection
Tawnie
There are more, I just need some time to recollect.

They all had w/p rapiers before. That said. Who cares?

yeah he's posted that in a few threads and I always laugh to myself... I'm from Riedra, but I know I didn't have everyone on the server's inventory memorized or even know what they had unless I partied with them and watched them pull it.

[Capstern]

First 3 rapiers on original Khyber. Nah.

Itrainz
Soul
Artemis
Reflection
Tawnie
There are more, I just need some time to recollect.

They all had w/p rapiers before. That said. Who cares?

True dont really care - it is what it is. and hes picked up a case of the *****'s

[Tulsa_Doom]

Bah. You edited. I do have lotto numbers though. :P