Don't accuse someone unless you know...

[Willeum_Wallace]

I am making this post because i feel i have to clear my name. I have recently been accused of something that i did not do, and do not want ppl to think it was me.

There was a raid the other night (Hound I think, not even sure, i raid all the time, hard to keep track, lol) I was playing my bard, quest went fine, another successful run. The usual looting begins, ppl grabbing their chests, shrining, looking to see what raid loot has dropped, etc. I'm not really paying too much attention at other things, just looking at my loot, or should i say vendor trash, when someone casts a greater teleport on the party. I just hit ignore since i'm not done looting my chests yet. Next thing i hear someone say, "Oh no..., Who the..., why.. who casted greater teleport!!! I didn't get my loot!" I kinda chuckle at myself wondering why they accepted the teleport if they didn't want to, you know, kinda a noob thing to do, sorta like when the big joke was to greater tele ppl to the foothold for laughs. I loot my chests, get my end reward, and go about my way. Then to my dismay, i later find out that ppl are upset, and that it must have been that bard that did that! First off, I don't even have greater teleport, nor do i carry any scrolls of it. Secondly, if someone accepts a greater teleport, it's their own fault for accepting it. It's pretty common for ppl to cast greater tele on chests to save ppl from having to recall and finish out. Had I known that I would have had to defend myself, i would have saved the combat log, which would show who it was that had casted the greater teleport. I did not do this though, obviously, because again, I DON'T CARRY THE SPELL, lol. If someone who was actually in this party remembers who it was that cast this, please let us know. There's no way for me to prove that i didn't cast it, other than my word. I have been playing this game almost since beta, and would never purposely deny someone from looting a chest, let alone a raid chest. I would not play this game anymore, if it were like that.
Anyways, i just hope that whoever it was that lost their loot, can forgive themselves for accepting the greater teleport, and next time in the raid, loots a +5 w/p rapier, and some named loot

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

moral of the story, never cast GT anywhere near a raid chest - you cannot loot bound items with the GT dialog up.

If you want to use GT to get out - then stand back from the chest and cast it there

Same goes for ddoor.

Garth

[Lifespawn]

sry garth but the moral should be don't accept a greater teleport if you don't want to?

ddoor is different monster since there is no accept yes or no it can happen easily and has ****ed many ppl including myself off

[Samadhi]

sry garth but the moral should be don't accept a greater teleport if you don't want to?

Makes sense to me!

[Cadaia]

sry garth but the moral should be don't accept a greater teleport if you don't want to?

That would be great if it worked like that. As it is, if you have a 'Are you sure you wish to accept this item? It will bind to you.' window up when someone casts a GT, it doesn't ALLOW you to Cancel the GT.

To the OP and those who think it's as easy as not accepting the GT, learn more about the game mechanics before accusing someone of whining needlessly. So, to all those who cast GT, Garth has it right. Please make sure you ask first or step away from everyone.

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

There is an interaction between the bind confirmation window and the GT accept window that makes casting it around a raid chest far too risky - better not to cast it at all, or at least wait until all the raid loot has been assigned and looted.

Garth

[Samadhi]

That would be great if it worked like that. As it is, if you have a 'Are you sure you wish to accept this item? It will bind to you.' window up when someone casts a GT, it doesn't ALLOW you to Cancel the GT.

To the OP and those who think it's as easy as not accepting the GT, learn more about the game mechanics before accusing someone of whining needlessly. So, to all those who cast GT, Garth has it right. Please make sure you ask first or step away from everyone.

I raid a lot and haven't had a problem yet - sorry if your stuff is buggy - but I don't think that classifies as "game mechanics."

Have you tried hitting "no" for picking up the item, cancelling the GT, then looting?

[DaveyCrockett]

The player's name would have been displayed on the GT confirmation window. What's the issue?

[Cashiry]

That would be great if it worked like that. As it is, if you have a 'Are you sure you wish to accept this item? It will bind to you.' window up when someone casts a GT, it doesn't ALLOW you to Cancel the GT.

Actually you can cancel the GT if you have that window up.. I've been able to cancel the GT, and then hit yes to take a raid item.

[boldarblood]

That would be great if it worked like that. As it is, if you have a 'Are you sure you wish to accept this item? It will bind to you.' window up when someone casts a GT, it doesn't ALLOW you to Cancel the GT.

To the OP and those who think it's as easy as not accepting the GT, learn more about the game mechanics before accusing someone of whining needlessly. So, to all those who cast GT, Garth has it right. Please make sure you ask first or step away from everyone.

Yes you can.

The game mechanics allow you to cancel GT, if you can't, you should probably file a bug report.

[Sharzade]

I am making this post because i feel i have to clear my name. I have recently been accused of something that i did not do, and do not want ppl to think it was me.

There was a raid the other night (Hound I think, not even sure, i raid all the time, hard to keep track, lol) I was playing my bard, quest went fine, another successful run. The usual looting begins, ppl grabbing their chests, shrining, looking to see what raid loot has dropped, etc. I'm not really paying too much attention at other things, just looking at my loot, or should i say vendor trash, when someone casts a greater teleport on the party. I just hit ignore since i'm not done looting my chests yet. Next thing i hear someone say, "Oh no..., Who the..., why.. who casted greater teleport!!! I didn't get my loot!" I kinda chuckle at myself wondering why they accepted the teleport if they didn't want to, you know, kinda a noob thing to do, sorta like when the big joke was to greater tele ppl to the foothold for laughs. I loot my chests, get my end reward, and go about my way. Then to my dismay, i later find out that ppl are upset, and that it must have been that bard that did that! First off, I don't even have greater teleport, nor do i carry any scrolls of it. Secondly, if someone accepts a greater teleport, it's their own fault for accepting it. It's pretty common for ppl to cast greater tele on chests to save ppl from having to recall and finish out. Had I known that I would have had to defend myself, i would have saved the combat log, which would show who it was that had casted the greater teleport. I did not do this though, obviously, because again, I DON'T CARRY THE SPELL, lol. If someone who was actually in this party remembers who it was that cast this, please let us know. There's no way for me to prove that i didn't cast it, other than my word. I have been playing this game almost since beta, and would never purposely deny someone from looting a chest, let alone a raid chest. I would not play this game anymore, if it were like that.
Anyways, i just hope that whoever it was that lost their loot, can forgive themselves for accepting the greater teleport, and next time in the raid, loots a +5 w/p rapier, and some named loot

Seeing that you didn't cast the spell, I wouldn't worry about the blame game.

The player that accepted the teleport was too hasty in accepting it and compounded the problem by making another. Even though it's sad that he couldn't get his loot, it's not the end of the world or terminal. DDO is just a game, and part of the MMO gaming experience is being aware of human fallibilities and being a good sport about it every now and then when something silly happens.

Cheers,

Sharzade

[impz]

Seeing that you didn't cast the spell, I wouldn't worry about the blame game.

The player that accepted the teleport was too hasty in accepting it and compounded the problem by making another. Even though it's sad that he couldn't get his loot, it's not the end of the world or terminal. DDO is just a game, and part of the MMO gaming experience is being aware of human fallibilities and being a good sport about it every now and then when something silly happens.

Cheers,

Sharzade

My logic: Mistakes make you NOT make it up again next time. Pretty good lesson. I will probably be a bit meh about not getting the loot, but you should have be more careful in the first place. In addition, what Sharzade said is right. You can always raid again and get something good.

[Lifespawn]

never had trouble canceling a gt personally maybe bug report it if there is actually a problem

[sirgog]

Agree GT could do with a change to prevent accidents and/or griefing.

[Dragonhyde]

I have never had a problem canceling GT either even when i have been in the middle of taking an raid item from the chest. As for casting it in the first place, i always figure it is a careless accident when it happens to me in a raid. Most casters have made one or two of those OOPS Don't touch the Shiny Portal mistake casts before so I try not to let it bother me unless it was followed by something along the lines of yall didnt give me the loot I wanted so take that.

[Solmage]

You can always cancel the teleport. You simply click on cancel about your loot/close the chest, and then click on cancel.

But, and here's the neat part, if you DON'T cancel it - NOTHING HAPPENS. It expires. When the timer wears off, you are NOT teleported. You HAVE to click "Accept" on it to be teleported.

Moral of the story: Don't accept a GT when you don't want one.

[EightyFour]

I could see a mistake happening from that, not totally a noob move, but it is possible to select an item and click on it without the dialog coming up for whatever reason, and depending on where the box pops up you could mistake it for confirmation for grabbing your loot.

I know that there is a difference between the two, like one says "Accept" and the other says "Yes" so you have to be a bit out of it to do such a thing, but I could see it happening if you were tired to begin with. However it's not very polite to cast it over a raid chest that is being looted, it's kinda like inviting someone to group without sending them a tell first. It's not wrong, it's just a bit impolite, so if you want to be this way for anyone reading this, than fine, it's not like I'm going to remember your name unless you do it a lot, like random invites, I'm not going to remember your name unless you do it a lot.

Yes people should know better and read what they are accepting, esp. around raid loot. But on the other side of things, why are you going to send a random GT to the group and adding the possibility that someone may make a noob move, because it's funny to help people screw themselves over? If that's your idea of fun,than I don't want to be around you.

[Solmage]

A bit of a noob move? It's a heck of a noob move, specially to then go and blame the wrong caster of the teleport, or heck even blame the right caster of the teleport for your noobness, that's a bit more than "a bit."

(Then again, I suppose everyone earns noob points sooner or later.. where's Kirris to keep tally when you need her? )

It's happened to me many times, specially during the titan - those that didn't get anything and don't care for what's left sometimes GT out - and since there is very little room, the GT hits you. And yes, this is running with really good people of what I'd call some of the best guilds.

Unlike the DD which gets cast during looting, this is not an uncommon occurrence, nor is it the caster's fault. Main culprit is the one who clicks accept.