Help from the ubers!!!!

[Ulenui]

I am currently playing around with the idea of a 2 monk/6 ranger/12 cleric build for when the cap gets raised to level 20.

I am just unsure if this tempest based, high ac ranger would be better than a cleric/monk combo.

I am not really sure about the fighting mechanics of the monk, but am aware that a 9monk/11 cleric could be potentially awesome on paper. Improved Evasion, Heal, Commetfall, along with the extra feats the monk get I think at 1, 3, 5, and 6. My concern for this type of monk would be: Would I have enough SP endgame if I wanted to make a dwarf with high dex/god con/and 14 wisdom for awesome hitpoints and the dwarven sp line OR would I have to go halfling for the higher dex (weapon finesse on any race I choose) and maybe the marks for heals because my sp would be lower?

Or would a drow make sense because of improved resistances along with the increased dex and the fact that I dont have to wait to unlock the 1750.

I want my cleric to be able to heal good and fight decent with high ac and survivability thru the improved evasion. If I cant accomplish this, would say a 17 cleric 3 monk give me a good finesse fighter for the 3 extra to wisdom you get at level 3 thru the monk stance.(I think I am correct but could be wrong).

The monk/cleric combo wisdom enhancements would give me a total of 5 extra if I took the monk to level 9. If I took monk to level 3, my total wisdom enhancements would be 4.

If I went dorf.....would say a 18 dex/16con/14 wisdom be the way to go....endgame that computes to a dexterity of 30 with a plus 2 tome. Would that be high enough to hit the end game mobs with consistency with weapon finesse or would making a halfling or drow be needed for that THACO because of the addeded dexterity to race bonus?

I know I am all over in this post and I apologize. I just would like to see the forum cleric "Gods" make one ass kicking cleric/monk, with the pros and cons between dwarf/halfling/drow and the pros and cons of making say a 17 cleric/3 monk or a 11 cleric/9 monk that can survive, do some damage, and be an incredible asset healing wise to the party.

Thanks in advance.

[Dexxaan]

VERY cool Cleric approach.

One thing I can point out (short on time) is that you cannot get the Monk AND the Cleric WIS Enhancement lines to stack.

Gonna play with the Planner and see what I find. Fun build for sure......The VOD Robes come to mind.....Icy Raiment..... Hmmmm!

[Lehrman]

At endgame melee builds that have more than 1 level of cleric get very little respect. This is probably because you have to keep a lot of spell buffs up at any given time in order to be an effective melee combatant and that usually results in less healing of others. Also, splash built clerics have considerably fewer sps than their pure counterparts. Having said that, when I had a splash cleric, he was a lot of fun to play, but he ran out of spell points fast and with no spell points there were no more divine favors, divine mights, recitations, prayers, heals, etc.

The best battle cleric build I have seen in action at lvl16 has been a pure dwarven cleric. The guy had reasonably high strength and con and his wisdom was topped out. He could melee, heal, drop maximized blade barriers, etc. He did whatever was needed. Freaked me out a bit when he meleed Ari in PT4, but watching his mana regen between casts was kind of fun.

There are a lot of builds on the cleric thread buried in other's posts.