Quote Originally Posted by Renegade66 View Post
I'd take no Cleric or a Cleric that goes afk in the quest over a Cleric where you find out too late that he's useless and will wipe your party (or at least severely hinder your zerging efforts) due to his incompetence. At least with no Cleric you can work a plan around him.
I can see where you are coming from, but that is like saying the cleric in question was not healing that great, but we stayed in the fight anyways and wiped. I suppose it is a point-of-view.

1st View: The cleric didn't heal fast enough and wiped the party.
2nd View: The party members decided to stay in and die instead of back out to survive.
Many players find that blaming one player in a group of 6 or 12 is far easier then looking into what they as the induvidual could have done to help.

Example: Shroud group of 12, including plenty of experienced players. In part 4 we find ourselves down to 3 players with about 20% life to go on the Fiend. 1 caster, 1 cleric, 1 barbarian. Now after the chatter of panic over VC, we work out the details of how to finish part 4 and get it done. Now players that had died were spamming tells to me making comments of how we didn't have a chance. How the cleric could not keep everyone else alive so how are the 3 of us going to finish. Caster and Barbarian learned to stay alive along with the cleric, not putting blame on one induvidual, and the 3 of us got it done together. I think it only took 3-4 rounds at that point. (I was the caster)

It still comes down to the fact that DDO is a game, and it is important to enjoy the game, since that is the intention of a game.

Quote Originally Posted by Renegade66 View Post
Oh, off topic a bit. Last night there was the best Shroud LFM ever. I forget his name, but it was something like this.

"Shroud Completion Need Guide. No Muppets! and I'm not talking about Jim Henderson either."

We flooded General Chat with comments, such as;
You know you're a Muppet when you need a guide for the Shroud.
and
You know you're a Muppet when you think it's Jim Henderson and not Jim Henson.

I personally don't understand the whole Muppet thing, don't think it's ever been funny and has certainly long ago worn out it's play, but we had a blast abusing that poor guy.
Who is the more decent player? The one who has a multitude of specifics that will most certainly offend players as they try to join the LFM, or the player that not only abuses the party leader but boasts about it in the forums?