Why Bother making Raid Armor...

[barecm]

...That is kind of pointless.

Ok so there is crippling armor that drops from the Hound Raid. Pretty nice for a ranged type considering it is a chain shirt and would require high dex to get all the AC bonuses. With the crippling effect, pretty much perfect for a bow user / repeater build... excpet one thing. Doesn't work on ranged. Now rumor has it, it will NOT be fixed next mod. Instead, in yet another stroke of genius, the going rumor is that the TEXT will be fixed to say only melee gets the crippling benefit. Silly. Make a good light armor and then make it so that 90% + of light armor wearers won't us it. White robes and KDS (lesser raid loot by the way) carry a better armor bonus.

This is just another example of why I get so frustrated with this game. Instead of fixing the the armor to fit the original description, they just fix the description to fit the broken ability of the armor.

And people wonder why the population is waning...

[DaveyCrockett]

You hit the nail on the head! Crippling Chain Shirt caused a mass exodus!!

BTW People still range?

[Jay203]

BTW People still range?

yessir!
i'm one of them =)
kinda fun to be shooting at stuff from afar and your party has no idea that you're actually helping them out =P

[Samadhi]

...then make it so that 90% + of light armor wearers won't us it...

I might have felt more sympathetic except for this portion...

a) 90% of light armor wearers don't range.
b) 90% of ranged toons are better off in robes.
c) 99% of players don't range as their primary offensive path.

Thanks.

[Jay203]

c) 99% of players don't range as their primary offensive path.

97% !
repeater builds + archer builds should make up at least 2%! :P

[BlackSteel]

i thought this was going to be a complaint about the icey rainments

[Samadhi]

97% !
repeater builds + archer builds should make up at least 2%! :P

hehe, fair enough, didn't think of repeater builds!

[QuantumFX]

While it does suck that weapon effects don't affect ranged/hand to hand attacks…

The chain shirt of crippling is nice for meleers. (And doesn't quite have the fugly factor as the MBP of Destruction.) It's great to finally be able to outrun mobs.

[Ganak]

Omg omg omg crippling chain must be fixed or dooooooommmmmm......

[Tanka]

I quite like my BP of Destruction. It helps all the 3/4 BAB melee hit more often.

[BurningDownTheHouse]

I quite like my BP of Destruction. It helps all the 3/4 BAB melee hit more often.

Which doesn't mean it's not the ugliest armor in the game
On the other hand i use it myself, so probably should shut up now

[Bunker]

...That is kind of pointless.

Ok so there is crippling armor that drops from the Hound Raid. Pretty nice for a ranged type considering it is a chain shirt and would require high dex to get all the AC bonuses. With the crippling effect, pretty much perfect for a bow user / repeater build... excpet one thing. Doesn't work on ranged. Now rumor has it, it will NOT be fixed next mod. Instead, in yet another stroke of genius, the going rumor is that the TEXT will be fixed to say only melee gets the crippling benefit. Silly. Make a good light armor and then make it so that 90% + of light armor wearers won't us it. White robes and KDS (lesser raid loot by the way) carry a better armor bonus.

This is just another example of why I get so frustrated with this game. Instead of fixing the the armor to fit the original description, they just fix the description to fit the broken ability of the armor.

And people wonder why the population is waning...

The topic of discussion: Hound Raid Armor

A few of us on Thelanis posted on this topic shortly after the first armors from this raid were looted. I myself has a set on my "ranged" rogue and we brought it to the dev's attention about how it does not work for bows/xbows. They made it clear that the armor works as intended, and that the description just needed to be changed. Now when you mention "Now rumor has it, it will NOT be fixed next mod", that is absolutly true. Why is that true? Because the armor does not need fixing, it works as intended.

[Bunker]

Instead of fixing the the armor to fit the original description, they just fix the description to fit the broken ability of the armor.

To follow up once more on the topic of the Raid Armor that drops in the Hound Quest:

Here is the thread that we had response at: http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=149574

Here is the response from the Developer:

The breastplate is intended to grant the Destruction on-hit effect to wielded melee weapons, it will not function with either ranged weapons or unarmed combat (including handwraps). The description will be updated to clarify this. (And no longer refer to the breastplate as "a weapon".)

And here is the link of that particular response: http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...4&postcount=14

I realize that the link and response is about the Breastplate, but it was implied that the response was about BOTH armors in that raid.

[Tanka]

Which doesn't mean it's not the ugliest armor in the game
On the other hand i use it myself, so probably should shut up now

You're right, it isn't the ugliest armor in the game. There are far uglier ones. Try some Splint Mail sometime, if you loot any.

[BurningDownTheHouse]

You're right, it isn't the ugliest armor in the game. There are far uglier ones. Try some Splint Mail sometime, if you loot any.

Ok, you got me...
I did mean from the armors that are actually usfull (or more to the point, being used)

[redoubt]

Sure, the devs say it is working as intended. So, now we have:

Jorgondal's collar. Melee only.
Etherial bracers. Melee only.
VoD(?) gloves. Melee only.
Crippling Chain Shirt. Melee only.

It would be fine it there was something on the other side that did work for ranged only, but there is not.

[Samadhi]

Sure, the devs say it is working as intended. So, now we have:

Jorgondal's collar. Melee only.
Etherial bracers. Melee only.
VoD(?) gloves. Melee only.
Crippling Chain Shirt. Melee only.

It would be fine it there was something on the other side that did work for ranged only, but there is not.

Actually there is - black dragon scales...

[Drfirewater79]

I was under the impression that thouse armors where activated by being hit not by hitting others? i thought it was the same as the disruption necklace or bracers what ever it is that works when they hit you. so obviously its not gonna work on ranged people cause your not getting hit.

[Elaril]

You hit the nail on the head! Crippling Chain Shirt caused a mass exodus!!

Stupid Crippling Chain Shirts...always bringing on the ruination of MMORPG's.

There really should be a warning in the item description or something. Something like "Equipping this item will cause your server's population to dwindle and the game to die."

[Tanka]

I was under the impression that thouse armors where activated by being hit not by hitting others? i thought it was the same as the disruption necklace or bracers what ever it is that works when they hit you. so obviously its not gonna work on ranged people cause your not getting hit.

No, the armors are "on swing" and not "on hit" activation. They proc when you connect.