UMD and Command Item

[AussieEngineer]

Hi everyone,

Just had a question regarding UMD skill on a Sorcerer, and a command item.
A command item says that it will give a +2 bonus on charisma related skill checks.
When equiping said item on my sorcerer however, I don't see any change in my *listed* UMD skill rank, or to the *listed* failure chance on wands/etc.

Has anyone played around with this themselves?

I had assumed that it would work (and tracked down the only command items I could find on the AH) to give me a better UMD rank, but I'm not sure if it will work 'behind the scenes' improving the skill result as I use it but without actually showing anywhere.

I am not sure how to test it other than getting an item that should have 90% success normally, equiping the command item, and then just keep using it (or getting an item that I have 0% chance at using due to UMD level (but okay at level requirement), and keep trying to see if it works on the 10% side of things).

I look forward to hearing others experiences on this...

[Dimicron]

If you are wearing a golden cartouche or other UMD enhancing item, I don't think they stack with a Command item.

[Tanka]

If you are wearing a golden cartouche or other UMD enhancing item, I don't think they stack with a Command item.

Correct. Same with Persuasion.

[AussieEngineer]

Ahhh, ok. Thanks for the responses.

I had hoped it would be similar to what others had said about clerics and the stacking of turn undead bonus from command/sacred/seek eternal rest.

I did have the golden cartouche equiped at the time, which would explain why no change...

[Uska]

Nice thing about command though it can be found on more things so you can wear a different necklace then the cartouche and only lose 1 umd. I have command on my bards boots.

[Desteria]

hehe ya there are umd bonuses that stack just not that one...

Comand, persuation, the titan gloves, the staffs(usles sfor wands/scrolls), and golden thingy are all enchment bonuses..

TO get stacking bonuses try soem of the following:

LUCK: one of the following Rabit gloves +1 (threnal end reward); Vocie of the master +1 (100% drop on Delar's end reward); Head fo good fortune +2 (from Storm reaver.)
Teh first is gloves the later 2 are trinkets.
Note prayer also is a luck bonus to skills so bug a cleric for it if it makes a big dif on your succes rate untill you have one of the above items.

Exceptional: up to +6 from a Shroud item with the Spell point upgrades Air or Pos

Moral: Heroism/G-hero buffs

Bard skill song no sure the type purty sure it;s competence though adn stacks with every thing else.