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    Well they do call the game dwarves and drow online after all ...

    Seriously, humans are fine. I love my human fighter. Play what you like and don't get a complex about it no matter what anyone else says.
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    High hp human barbs with human improved recovery and maxed str are always nice.
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    hehe loved reading some of the responses here. To the OP im not that sure on Eberron lore so I cant answer that question. But having made a human recently I like the abilities she has against mobs and the like but she lacks the flair that my elves have. I have one other non elf character and thats a dwarf fighter cleric and she doesnt get much play for the same reason. I enjoy ddo for many reasons but the cosemetics is one of the keepers, and I like the way the elf females I play look and coming from years of playing elves in pnp campaigns I know their strengths and weaknesses enough to be more comfortable playing them.

    And hehe to the comment about female players were out there but I know plenty on my server who have many human females specially clerics (which my human is as well). But all my other classes have and will be elves just prefer them over other races.
    Well at least till they fix halfling females faces.
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    Because they are so common in RL.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalari View Post
    Well at least till they fix halfling females faces.
    Faces are fine ... it is the wizard of oz monkey run that is disturbing ...
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    lol yeah the slooped shoulder run drove me crazy on my halfling wizard couldnt stand watching her run to quests. But it was hard picking a face for her the choice for noses drove me nuts for some reason hehe im just really picky with that stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by esoitl View Post
    This is merely because people are unimaginative and have to copy someone else's build, a sad sad truth to DDO.
    In my opinion it is this copycat world coupled with the lack of great enhancements that makes humans a bit more rare.

    The human population of Sarlona appears fairly healthy though but limited to certain classes it seems. You'll see mostly Monks, Fighters, and Arcane casters but the odd Cleric is wandering the streets of Stormreach as well. I don't believe I have ever encountered a human Rogue, Bard, Paladin, Ranger, or Barbarian and if so, very few of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cdbd3rd View Post
    Why are humans so rare???


    Cuz they ain't DONE yet.



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    I would just like to take the time to point something out for those who think that other races being able to hit 20 at level one in a stat is 'teh uberz'.

    First of all, so you can get a 20 in one stat, most likely your not going to for various reasons. Fighters would be the biggest canadits for a 20, but they can't get a +2 strength at level one. Rangers and rogues starting with 20 dex sounds great, but look at the cost. The ranger is gonna spend 16 of their character points on said 20 dex. That leaves just 12 points left to work on stats like strength, wisdom, inteligance, and con. If your a pally, add charisma to that list too. All are skills that help rogues or rangers (except charisma). Wisdom because you really don't want a penelty to your will save. Strength to boost melee damage and carrying ability. Con because you don't want fewer hit points per level do you? No, you want more. And int boosts skill points and search. For rogues Int is also especially important, as is wisdom. Drop that dex down to 17, and you now have 20 points to spend on stats. A much better idea usually.

    Next, let's look at the idea that having a +2 dex/-2 con is a big advantage over humans. Let's say you want a dex of 16 and a con of 14 because your a monk. As a human you spend 16 stat points total on the two stats. Now, make the character a elf or drow, your getting an advantage in spending less stat points on your traits right? Nope, it's still costing you 16 stat points for those two attributes total. Why? Because while dex cost fewer stat points to raise, it cost more to raise con. Dwarves can raise both those stats to those numbers for 2 less stat points... but that's not as big a deal as you might think. That's enough to allow one stat at 14 and one at 15, or two stats at 14 and a third at 10 (int perhaps). It all evens out in the end.

    How about racial traits then? Do those make that huge of a difference at character creation? Personally, I think no they don't. Humans get more skill points and an extra feat. Other races get other benefits. Enhancement lines maybe? Personally, I usually don't bother with most racial enhancements anyway, so that's a wash. Maybe stat boosts and such, but that's about it. Humans get a useful one in their healing enhancements though. Drow are the only other race I seriously consider a racial enhancement line for (spell resistance line).
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    EDIT: Didn't realize I had gotten sucked into a necro'd thread. Bad Blazer, bad bad bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    *points and laughs*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    Great. You broke my dictionary.
    LOL, sorry Borror0. Try here and look at the verb entry.

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    Really? I play 3 humans out of 9 slots so i wouldnt call them that rare...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adamkatt View Post
    Really? I play 3 humans out of 9 slots so i wouldnt call that rare...
    Yes and I play 2 of 6 as humans, but as I'm sure you realize, a sampling of n = 2 is not significant in the DDO population.

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    The 32-point builds are good still, right?
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    This is not just a DDO problem. It happens in any fantasy game in any format.

    In DDO there is just no real incentive to play human.
    My Main is human. He was my first char. I have made a few others but I'm an Elf/Drow kinda guy......and prefer cute female ones as well. (especially in those new starter rags! mmmm...mmmmm.

    I usually make a human char to symbolise "me". But then come other motivations.
    Char power being one. Humans are usually weaker in power than other races. Some exceptions. But generally true.
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    i already play a human irl...




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    Return the Passive bonus of Human Versitility, and you will see more humans.

    The boost is a failure, and not needed.

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