Best cleric in Khyber server

[Garvin]

C'mon pple one and all, lets give praise to those dedicated healing clerics and give salute and name the best healing cleric so far in khyber server.

Which cleric you partied with who often times make you go, "Ohh he is a good healer". I aint talking about battle clerics, I'm talking about those unspoken champions who make or break a quest.

Let sing their praises!

First off, I would like to make special mentions to the following clerics, outstanding healers -
Raincloud
Redhawke
Highfather
Suushee
Mamamia
Cavern

[Raegoul]

This has been done before.

And another baiting thread is not required!

[Boldrin]

Well, I've only run with one of those clerics, but I'd like to make special mention of Tyrax. he's a guildie cleric with 25 DVs. And an excellent healer to boot. I joke around with him about being a walking shrine. There are a lot of good clerics I run with in the daytime between 10AM EST and 3PM , too many to mention, but all those DVs make him something special.

[Desteria]

I'v onyl ever met one of those clerics guess they are not in my time zone.
I could try and mention all teh great cleric i run with but there are to many that imo fall under your qualification sooo I'll just say all the cleric si run with regularly you know who you are you get my vote .

[InfidelofHaLL]

just gonna say that last name on op's list has to be a joke

p.s i love taking the bait it makes me feel good

[sirgog]

To hell with the DVs, give me a cleric that can fight or CC or do a little of both

The best way to heal, is to prevent the party takign the damage in the first place.

[Boldrin]

To hell with the DVs, give me a cleric that can fight or CC or do a little of both

The best way to heal, is to prevent the party takign the damage in the first place.

Depends on what you need for the party. Lots of wannabe BCs out there that suck. If you have good tanks there's no need for a BC.

[seldarin]

To hell with the DVs, give me a cleric that can fight or CC or do a little of both

The best way to heal, is to prevent the party takign the damage in the first place.

I have seen those DVs that you say to hell with make all the difference between success and failure of a quest in a pinch. Situational, but can make the difference.

I would tend to disagree with your statement about the best way of healing is to prevent damage. Whilst you are kiting your one mob through ur maximised/empowered BB, what are you doing about the other 10 mobs that are spanking the barbarian senseless?

If course your statement is based purely on a "battle" clerics perspective. A balanced cleric on the other hand can be quite beneficial, one that can fight a bit, cc a bit and heal when required.

I agree with Infidel, surely the last name on that list is a bait only listing

[sirgog]

I have seen those DVs that you say to hell with make all the difference between success and failure of a quest in a pinch. Situational, but can make the difference.

I would tend to disagree with your statement about the best way of healing is to prevent damage. Whilst you are kiting your one mob through ur maximised/empowered BB, what are you doing about the other 10 mobs that are spanking the barbarian senseless?

If course your statement is based purely on a "battle" clerics perspective. A balanced cleric on the other hand can be quite beneficial, one that can fight a bit, cc a bit and heal when required.

The original post was intended to spark debate (what can I say, I'm bored - procrastinating when I should be working on an assignment)... but in reality, I much rather party with a cleric that doesn't make the big sacrifices to their other abilities that are needed to get the maximum possible DVs - as much as for any other reason, it's that players of Healbots tend to get bored & retire their clerics more quickly than the players that can mix it up between healing and one (or maybe both) of offensive casting and/or melee. (That said, Numot carries 5 DVs, as they do definitely help at times and were an investment well worth the one AP I spent on them and the use of the Charisma 6 item).

That said, this comes from the PoV of someone that plays all self-sufficient toons at endgame. Were I to be playing barbarians, I'd think a little differently. (On a cleric - any cleric - I will throw Heals at the barb you mentioned - but I'll be trying to take aggro off the barb sometimes too, either with BB if I can hack the aggro on my cleric, or with Cometfall or Greater Command if I can't).


Oh, and as far as preventing damage goes - Cometfall does that pretty well. Orthons that are humping the ground aren't cleaving the party. Costs less to cast one Cometfall than three Heal spells too.

[Desteria]

I have seen those DVs that you say to hell with make all the difference between success and failure of a quest in a pinch. Situational, but can make the difference.

I would tend to disagree with your statement about the best way of healing is to prevent damage. Whilst you are kiting your one mob through ur maximised/empowered BB, what are you doing about the other 10 mobs that are spanking the barbarian senseless?

If course your statement is based purely on a "battle" clerics perspective. A balanced cleric on the other hand can be quite beneficial, one that can fight a bit, cc a bit and heal when required.

kitign oen mob though a BB is i beilve note realyl what he was getitng att....

when i see preventign damage is better then healig it I think of stuff like GTR Comman so in the above example the other 10 mobs are layign on their backs getitng spanked by the barbarian while you kite the one that made the save through said BB

Comit fall also work wonders, as does sounds burst(though you kinda want to have emp/max off beacsue 1d8*150% still sucks YES I woudl kill fro selective metamagic where i coudl set by spell wich ones effect it or spell sets kinda like weapon sets that cast spell x with the followign metamagics on it, so i coudl have mroe then one vertion of the same spell on my hot bar.

[seldarin]

The original post was intended to spark debate (what can I say, I'm bored - procrastinating when I should be working on an assignment)... but in reality, I much rather party with a cleric that doesn't make the big sacrifices to their other abilities that are needed to get the maximum possible DVs - as much as for any other reason, it's that players of Healbots tend to get bored & retire their clerics more quickly than the players that can mix it up between healing and one (or maybe both) of offensive casting and/or melee. (That said, Numot carries 5 DVs, as they do definitely help at times and were an investment well worth the one AP I spent on them and the use of the Charisma 6 item).

That said, this comes from the PoV of someone that plays all self-sufficient toons at endgame. Were I to be playing barbarians, I'd think a little differently.


Oh, and as far as preventing damage goes - Cometfall does that pretty well. Orthons that are humping the ground aren't cleaving the party. Costs less to cast one Cometfall than three Heal spells too.

I fully understand your POV mate, i have grouped with you a few times. I have 17 DVs on my cleric and it is by no means sacrificing everything from other abilities. Mine is an original 28 pt cleric that was built as a utility cleric, rather than a high str cleric. My cleric hasnt been retired and wont be. If i dont need to heal much in a party, i consider that taking a break from the times when i have needed to. When i want to mix something up i solo stuff, or i do a bit of offensive casting, of which clerics have a fair reportoire, or i melee a little bit, not to the same degree as a high str cleric, but then again i personally think i have more versality and am not pigeon holed in one role. But thats just my personal opinion. Im not better than anyone that is specialised in each of the above mentioned roles, and i have limitations, but i work within them.

Just to take task with the "battle" cleric approach, have at least one instance of being in shroud run with 4 clerics, and as i quickly found out, three of them were alleged battle clerics, AND didnt even heal themselves. So being sole cleric healing a 12 person group in that run, one quickly gets "bored".

Those kind of instances are the basis for my bias against battle clerics. You want to fight, be my guest, but at the very least, take responsibility for your own healing, that is what YOUR blue bar is for. Eventually in that run i just didnt heal them, not party orientated i know, but neither were they.

As to cometfall etc, i am fairly familiar with cleric spells, but to be honest if you are in a 4 room map, and you are in one part fighting something, and other party members are in another part etc, your cometfall isnt going to do squat for them, just an opinion.

[seldarin]

kitign oen mob though a BB is i beilve note realyl what he was getitng att....

when i see preventign damage is better then healig it I think of stuff like GTR Comman so in the above example the other 10 mobs are layign on their backs getitng spanked by the barbarian while you kite the one that made the save through said BB

Comit fall also work wonders, as does sounds burst(though you kinda want to have emp/max off beacsue 1d8*150% still sucks YES I woudl kill fro selective metamagic where i coudl set by spell wich ones effect it or spell sets kinda like weapon sets that cast spell x with the followign metamagics on it, so i coudl have mroe then one vertion of the same spell on my hot bar.

My example of kiting one mob thru bb, was just that, an example. There are various instances, and im sure that everyone can rattle of numerous ones.

[Altarboy]

Pffffftttt....
This whole thread is a joke!

I see mention of all these wanabe clerics..HAH!

You all know it's me and me alone!...

Blade Barriers!...waste of mana
DV's.....LOL yeah right!
I bet you guys heal Warforges...
warforgi?.....
warfogamos?....
::::sigh::...
more than one warforged....you knew what I meant


Lemme scroll through this mess and see what other nonsense you tards use....

Nope...not one mention of a rocky ....you guys are all gimps

[Strakeln]

just gonna say that last name on op's list has to be a joke

p.s i love taking the bait it makes me feel good

Of the last 15 VoD runs I've done on my Barbarian (as the Sulu tank), there were only three where the cleric didn't lose focus and let me die.

On two of those three runs, the cleric was Cavern.

Food for thought.

[Altarboy]

Of the last 15 VoD runs I've done on my Barbarian (as the Sulu tank), there were only three where the cleric didn't lose focus and let me die.

On two of those three runs, the cleric was Cavern.

Food for thought.

pffffft ...
he was just scared he'd lose his discount at Quijymart!

What would make him heal a dirty barbarian anyway ?

[babygirl]

Well for starters even though altarboy likes to have you all think that he sucks....he really is a good healing cleric, he does summon rocky all the time but he still heals like a champ The last time I seen rocky he died at the beginning of shroud...LOL Another shout out I would like to give is Grohk, he is a guildie of mine and although he doesn't pug much he is a good healer as well Another good healer/battle cleric that is in my guild is dussty although he seems to think he sucks just like altarboy he is pretty good too
Shout outs: Heinrick,Grumples,Tyrax,Tukah,Heoz (when he plays lol) ummm I can't seem to think of any others, I'll keep you posted

[Strakeln]

pffffft ...
he was just scared he'd lose his discount at Quijymart!

What would make him heal a dirty barbarian anyway ?

Well, if you don't heal him, who do you think he'll be coming after when he rez's?

And Cavern doesn't shop at the Mart. Has so much plat that it's not worth his time (seriously).

[Altarboy]

Well, if you don't heal him, who do you think he'll be coming after when he rez's?

And Cavern doesn't shop at the Mart. Has so much plat that it's not worth his time (seriously).

Hmmm food for thought....
*mumble mumble*....
they do hit kinda hard don't they...
hmmmmmm.....
Fine...
Let it be known that...
from now on....
when the mood strikes me...
I'll heal barbarians
That is all

[Strakeln]

In no particular order:

Grohk
Dropdead
Cavern
Davandrel
Fatty/Fattys/Tailor/etc - I love it when Fatty is my cleric!
Handhamer (where are you?)
[space reserved for people I forgot]

And, to be an ass, here's my ****list:
Palebeard

I'd give Altar a shout-out but I've never actually seen the character so I'm not sure he really exists.

[Lady_Draconus]

C'mon pple one and all, lets give praise to those dedicated healing clerics and give salute and name the best healing cleric so far in khyber server.

Which cleric you partied with who often times make you go, "Ohh he is a good healer". I aint talking about battle clerics, I'm talking about those unspoken champions who make or break a quest.

Let sing their praises!

First off, I would like to make special mentions to the following clerics, outstanding healers -
Raincloud
Redhawke
Highfather
Suushee
Mamamia
Cavern

I'm a good Cleric I even heal Warforged!