Big F'n Stick Build

[The_Phenx]

*** This thread is a discussion place for all things stick ***
Try and keep it on topic, anything acrobat/quarterstaff related.

Obviously the game evolves and so does this thread. Since it is 70+ pages long and started years ago some of the earlier pages are outdated by this point but still contain a lot of useful info and debate. Check the links below first, I will try and keep them current, so people looking to try the build get the most useful info right up front.

** News**

***IMPORTANT NEWS HERE*** This is in regards to anyone planning on crafting a store bough DR breaking staff. http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...postcount=1746

Cleave and Great Cleave no longer break the attack chain, making them a significant DPS boosts.

Bluff now grants 6 seconds of full sneak attack every 15 seconds. Which is AMAZING. Please consider taking bluff vs diplo or both when planning out your builds.
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FAQ http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=899

Named Staffs List http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...postcount=1470

A Roadmap to Useful Posts http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...postcount=1491

Links to other Acrobat Builds http://forums.ddo.com/showpost.php?p...postcount=1549

Big F'n Stick
17/3 Halfling Monk Acrobat

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Preying Mantis
Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(3 Monk \ 17 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 253
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 20
Will: 13

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             15                    23
Dexterity            15                    22
Constitution         13                    16
Intelligence         14                    16
Wisdom               11                    14
Charisma              8                    10

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 3
+1 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3
+1 Tome of Constitution used at level 3
+1 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 20
+3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 20
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    23
Bluff                -1                     4
Concentration         2                    20
Diplomacy             3                    24
Disable Device        6                    27
Haggle                3                    24
Heal                  0                     3
Hide                  2                     9
Intimidate           -1                     1
Jump                  4                    17
Listen                0                     5
Move Silently         2                     9
Open Lock             6                    30
Perform              n/a                    n/a
Repair                2                     4
Search                6                    27
Spot                  4                    26
Swim                  2                     7
Tumble                6                    32
Use Magic Device      3                    27

Level 1 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Balance I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Tumble I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I


Level 4 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 5 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Halfling Dexterity I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) II


Level 6 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Use Magic Device
Enhancement: Rogue Balance II
Enhancement: Rogue Tumble II


Level 7 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II


Level 8 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I


Level 9 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 10 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III


Level 11 (Rogue)


Level 12 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist 
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III


Level 13 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV


Level 14 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 16 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III


Level 17 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV


Level 18 (Rogue)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Halfling Guile III


Level 19 (Rogue)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Fortitude) I
Enhancement: Rogue Item Defense I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing II


Level 20 (Rogue)
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Fortitude) II
Enhancement: Monk Concentration I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense II

Ugly Stick
13/6/1 Half Orc Rogue/Monk/Fighter Acrobat II Ninja Spy I

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Ugly Stick
Level 20 Lawful Good Half-Orc Male
(1 Fighter \ 6 Monk \ 13 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 300
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 14\14\19\24
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 18
Will: 11

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    25
Dexterity            15                    20
Constitution         15                    17
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom               12                    14
Charisma              6                     8

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 7
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 7
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7
+2 Tome of Charisma used at level 7
+3 Tome of Strength used at level 20

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               6                    18
Bluff                -2                    -1
Concentration         4                    28
Diplomacy             2                     4
Disable Device        5                    25
Haggle                2                     9
Heal                  1                     2
Hide                  2                     5
Intimidate           -2                    -1
Jump                  3                    14
Listen                1                     2
Move Silently         2                     5
Open Lock             6                    28
Perform              n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     2
Search                5                    25
Spot                  5                    25
Swim                  3                     7
Tumble                n/a                  n/a
Use Magic Device      2                    22

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Improved Tumble I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Improved Balance I


Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack I
Enhancement: Orcish Strength I
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude I


Level 5 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
Enhancement: Orcish Fury I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise I


Level 6 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Selected) Quick Draw
Enhancement: Static Charge
Enhancement: Improved Jump I
Enhancement: Improved Jump II
Enhancement: Improved Tumble II


Level 7 (Monk)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Enhancement: Orcish Extra Action Boost II
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+0.5)
Skill: Open Lock (+0.5)
Skill: Search (+0.5)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+0.5)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
Enhancement: Monk Ninja Spy I


Level 9 (Fighter)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Jump (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortoise II
Enhancement: Improved Balance II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Enhancement: Orcish Great Weapon Aptitude II
Enhancement: Adept of Wind


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+3)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Disable Device (+3)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+3)
Skill: Spot (+3)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+0.5)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+2)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+2)
Skill: Concentration (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Orcish Melee Damage II
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack II


Level 16 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Orcish Power Attack III
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Combat Expertise


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III


Level 20 (Rogue)
Skill: Concentration (+2)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Orcish Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I

Bigger F'n Stick
TR 20 Rogue Acrobat

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Preying  Mantis
Level 20 Lawful Good Halfling Male
(20 Rogue) 
Hit Points: 262
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 12
Reflex: 19
Will: 9

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(34 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
Strength             16                    23
Dexterity            16                    23
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence         12                    14
Wisdom                8                    10
Charisma              8                    11

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1
+3 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1
+2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1
+3 Tome of Charisma used at level 1

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
Balance               9                    20
Bluff                 4                     25
Concentration         4                     6
Diplomacy             0                    25
Disable Device        6                    27
Haggle                4                    25
Heal                  0                     2
Hide                  6                    34
Intimidate            0                     2
Jump                  4                    14
Listen                0                     4
Move Silently         6                    33
Open Lock             9                    31
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                2                     4
Search                6                    27
Spot                  4                    25
Swim                  4                     8
Tumble                7                    28
Use Magic Device      4                    25

Level 1 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+4)
Skill: Diplomacy (+4)
Skill: Disable Device (+4)
Skill: Haggle (+4)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+4)
Skill: Search (+4)
Skill: Spot (+4)
Skill: Tumble (+2)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+4)
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Rogue Faster Sneaking I
Enhancement: Rogue Balance I
Enhancement: Rogue Improved Trap Sense I


Level 2 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training I
Enhancement: Rogue Tumble I
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity I


Level 3 (Rogue)
Skill: Balance (+1)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Skill Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning I
Enhancement: Halfling Guile I


Level 4 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Rogue Tumble II


Level 5 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Balance II


Level 6 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat I


Level 7 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity II


Level 8 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning II
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training II


Level 9 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Halfling Guile II


Level 10 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rogue Dexterity III


Level 11 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Tumble (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Haste Boost IV


Level 12 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Rogue Thief-Acrobat II


Level 13 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Opportunist 
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning III
Enhancement: Halfling Guile III


Level 14 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training III


Level 15 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
Enhancement: Rogue Sneak Attack Training IV


Level 16 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Crippling Strike
Enhancement: Halfling Cunning IV


Level 17 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Halfling Guile IV


Level 18 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Sneak of Shadows
Enhancement: Rogue Extra Action Boost I
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness I


Level 19 (Rogue)
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+2)
Skill: Move Silently (+1)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Feat: (Rogue Bonus) Skill Mastery
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Will) II
Enhancement: Rogue Item Defense I
Enhancement: Racial Toughness II


Level 20 (Rogue)
Ability Raise: STR
Skill: Diplomacy (+1)
Skill: Disable Device (+1)
Skill: Haggle (+1)
Skill: Hide (+1)
Skill: Move Silently (+2)
Skill: Open Lock (+1)
Skill: Search (+1)
Skill: Spot (+1)
Skill: Use Magic Device (+1)
Enhancement: Rogue Deadly Shadow
Enhancement: Halfling Luck (Fortitude) I
Enhancement: Rogue Subtle Backstabbing I

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Leveling Tips

---Power Attack---
Turn it on whenever you first log in, it turns off at log out for some reason.

---Potions/Wands---
You need to get shield of faith +3 and barkskin +3 potions... thats going to give you an extra +6 to your ac, which at low levels is VERY important.

***SHIELD WANDS*** They have an ML:5 shield wand you should start UMD'ing as soon as you can... a 5 minute +4 to ac and immunity to Magic Missile.

You can also drink Heroism Potions to get your to hit up higher so you wont miss while chasing things around.
You should have 25 blindness ward + remove curse + Poison Immunity Potions, there are just WAY too many times you will need them, and you can spare the clerics mana, switch to wands at higher levels.

---Outfits---
Wear what you want for levels 1-3 but your outfit should be moderate fortification robes/outfit @ lvl4 until level 8 then go to heavy fortification
until you can get a hold of the Minos Legens from the Orchard. Keeps away those one shot crits from some of the boss mobs.
At that point you should start working to acquire Icy Raiments from Skeleton Boss loot runs from the Subterranea.
After that the next best option is Vestments from the Steal of Souls quest arc.

---House Phiarlan---
Get your house p favor as soon as you can...those 30 min buffs gives a +4 to each stat... unless you have them on your guilds airship. The time pendant is also great for moving around quick in town.

[Samadhi]

Want to break down how you are getting that AC AND that many HP? If it works - rock.

[rawfocat]

Can you get weighted on a staff?

[The_Phenx]

Can you get weighted on a staff?

Yes you can.. Need to source that one still...But i have a LOT of really good staffs already.

[The_Phenx]

Want to break down how you are getting that AC AND that many HP? If it works - rock.

Ill give it my best shot... mind you I figured it out late last night, but it worked then

10 Base
10 Dex
6 Wis
7 armor bracers (hoping for 8)
3 chattering ring
3 seal of the earth (or bark pot)
5 protection
1 Ac ritual
1 Air Stance
1 Halfling

Thats 47 unbuffed...with moderately easy gear to get 48 with harder.

4 more for icy raiments and hes at 51 (remove prot 5 item)

+4 shield click or wand for 55

Click off a full barkskin... bard buffs... uncanny dodge and you get the idea. (could even do a shroud +4 ac weap but prolly wont)

As for hit points
30 for GFL
18 for Minos
45 for shroud item
18 more for toughness feat
10 Gianthold favor
with a 22 con...

Puts him at what 348? I think Check my math please..it was all on paper at my desk at home.

The saves I havent worked out yet but monk + halfy and he should be high 20's low 30's on all.

And BAB +11 which gets me the 4 animations so 2 of which will do glancing blows (will use a dp clickie occasionally to go full BAB & get the 5th swing Im shure)

[Shyver]

Here is a similiar build I put together for a friend about a month ago or so. I can't say how it's going since I didn't build one, but he and his wife are both playing the build and seem to really enjoy it. The damage I've seen them put out is rather impressive.

Final build when the cap is 20 will be: Rogue 13/Monk 6/Fighter 1

Name: Ronker
Race: Halfling (32 pt)
Alignment: Lawful Good
Class: Rogue 12/ Monk 3/ Fighter 1

Strength: 16 +2 (favor) tome +0 Enhnacement +6 Item +4 Levels = 28
Dexterity: 13 +1 tome +4 enhancements + 6 Item +0 Levels = 24
Constitution: 13 +1 tome +0 enhancements +6 Item +0 Levels = 20
Intelligence: 12 +1 tome +0 enhancements +0 item +0 levels = 13
Wisdom: 12 +0 tome +0 enhancements +6 item +0 levels = 18
Charisma: 8 +0 tomes+ 0 enhancements + 6 item +0 levels = 14

Level

1) Rogue ~~~ Least Dragonmark of Healing
2) Monk ~~~~ Power Attack (Monk Feat)
3) Rogue ~~~~ Two-handed Fighting
4) Rogue
5) Rogue
6) Rogue ~~~ Lesser Dragonmark of Healing
7) Rogue
8) Monk ~~~ Combat Expertise (Monk Feat)
9) Rogue ~~~ Improved Two-handed Fighting
10) Fighter ~~~Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
11) Rogue
12) Rogue ~~~Greater Dragonmark of Healing
13) Rogue
14) Rogue
15) Rogue ~~~Greater Two-handed Fighting
16) Monk ~~~ Path of Harmonius Balance (Monk Feat)

Hit Points

Rogue lvls: ~~~72
Monk lvls: ~~~24
Fighter lvl:~~~~~10
Heroic Durability: 20
Constitution:~~~80
Argo favor:~~~~10
Greater False Life:30
Minos Legion: ~~ 18
Total:~~~~~~~ 264

Saves

Fortitude: 4 Rogue + 2 Fighter + 3 monk + 3 item + 5 con +1 halfling= 18
Reflex: 8 Rogue + 0 Fighter + 3 monk + 3 item +7 dex +1 halfling= 22
Willpower: 4 Rogue + 0 Fighter + 3 monk + 3 item + 4 wis +1 halfling= 15

Skills

Spot
Search
Disable Device
Open Lock
Jump
Use Magical Device
Haggle

Armor Class

Base: 10
Dexterity: 7
Wisdom: 4
Armor: 6
Barkskin: 3
Alchemic: 1
Total: 31

Icy Rainments: 4
Chattering Ring: 3
Armor baracers +8: 2
Shroud Weapon: 4
Total: 44

Shield Wand/Clicky: 4
Combat Expertise: 5
Total: 53


Enhancements

Rogue Balance 1
Rogue Balance 2

Rogue Tumble 1
Rogue Tumble 2

Rogue Faster Sneaking 1

Rogue Haste Boost 1
Rogue Haste Boost 2

Rogue Skill Boost 1
Rogue Skill Boost 2
Rogue Skill Boost 3
Rogue Skill Boost 4

Rogue Sneak Attack Training 1
Rogue Sneak Attack Training 2
Rogue Sneak Attack Training 3
Rogue Sneak Attack Training 4

Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy 1
Rogue Sneak Attack Accuracy 2

Rogue Dexterity 1
Rogue Dexterity 2
Rogue Dexterity 3

Rogue Way of the Thief-Acrobat 1
Rogue Way of the Thief-Acrobat 2

Halfling Extra Dragonmark Use 1
Halfling Extra Dragonmark Use 2
Halfling Extra Dragonmark Use 3

Halfling Dexterity 1

Halfling Cunning 1

Halfling Guile 1

Monk Disciple of Breezes 1

[The_Phenx]

Kinda similar lol Except for twf vs quarterstaff n cleave..

Ill update as I go since Its kinda a unique Idea.

[Sue_Dark]

Total curiosity with no intent to hijack.

Why are people so hung up on the icy rainment? From what I see in this thread and the little I've seen so far, it's a PITA to get and not as good for a monk/monk-hybrid/dex based character as the Vision outfit, which is probably easier to get than the Chattering ring (due to the horrid drop rates on Titan). If you're willing to farm the titan that much, I'd think you'd be willing to farm VoD as well for the better outfit, unless I'm just missing something. (you being a generic pronoun, not *YOU*, OP)

[The_Phenx]

The vod armor is
Enlightened Vestments - Outfit, Armor Bonus +6, Banishing Fists, Wisdom +6

Ghosts of perdition is
Icy Raiment - Robe, Dodge Bonus +4, Protection +4, Resistance +3 (Item Binds on Acquire)

So the reason?
#1 you clean up a LOT of slots...
#2 +4 dodge bonus... is WAAAYYY better... you can wear armor anythign bracers and it works with them.
#3 banishing fists are MEh
#4 Wisdom is just an existential item away

And chattering rings are easy.. run titan 20 times... and pray

/hijack off

[Sue_Dark]

Ahh yes, I had forgotten about the dodge bonus... was thinking it was an Armor bonus.

Thanks

So the reason?
#1 you clean up a LOT of slots...
#2 +4 dodge bonus... is WAAAYYY better... you can wear armor anythign bracers and it works with them.
#3 banishing fists are MEh
#4 Wisdom is just an existential item away

And chattering rings are easy.. run titan 20 times... and pray

1- somewhat agree
2- agree
3- agree
4- if you have the time/inclination to run shroud a bazillion times. (It bores me, honestly)

Chatter.... 20-pray, 20-pray, and so on and so on.... never seen one drop, ever. I am just unlucky tho... had 4 of those darned SS's and 2 docents on my HALFLING ranger very useful......


/hijack off
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[Dark-Star]

Not sure if armor bracers and Chaos Guards will both fit on such small arms, -2 ac.

In my version of this build, 3 monk 13 rogue seems to be the sweet spot for class breaks.

Can't tell if you are implying stance haste stacking, but from what they have told us, the stacking portion will be 3.5% for tier one stance.

Only hesitation for me for this build is giving up some of a rogue's main strength, radiance2 rapier and crippling strike, and being able to off hand a weakening/wounding of enfeebling/puncturing. Also you'll give up some ac as well as sneak attack damage relative to a dex based twf-er.

Lastly enhancements will be very tight.

Could be fun though for the novelty of seeing a q-staff rotate at light speed.

[The_Phenx]

Not sure if armor bracers and Chaos Guards will both fit on such small arms, -2 ac.

Lol I know... theres a few debates on what gear goes where... More than likely itll be armor bracers all the way... till white dragon robe... + chaos garde, then swapped for Icy Raiments

In my version of this build, 3 monk 13 rogue seems to be the sweet spot for class breaks.

Elaborate?

Can't tell if you are implying stance haste stacking, but from what they have told us, the stacking portion will be 3.5% for tier one stance.

Correct... 20% stacking from Acrobat II 10% (non hasted) monk Air (3.5% hasted, or go fire stance for -1 ac +1th +1 dmg) All accounted for.

Only hesitation for me for this build is giving up some of a rogue's main strength, radiance2 rapier and crippling strike, and being able to off hand a weakening/wounding of enfeebling/puncturing. Also you'll give up some ac as well as sneak attack damage relative to a dex based twf-er.

Yes He will loose the offhand toys... but the sneak attack damage will still be quite high 7d6 rouge + SA training + guile + 3-8 (backstabber gloves or vod goggles)

Stat damage will still be very fast due to the speed of the attacks.

Could still make a radiance II quarterstaff... and I have been debating this, although 3x earth earthgrab staff when cleaved could do some really neat things as well.

Since he will have a relatively high strength he will still be able to go after red names effectively, or so I hope. This will work well with the +10 from power attack to offset some of the other areas.

Lastly enhancements will be very tight.

Aye..VERY...we will see how it all works out there... the ammount of some of them will prolly have to change around.

Could be fun though for the novelty of seeing a q-staff rotate at light speed.

Thats pretty much the idea... coolest animation in the game.

[The_Phenx]

Even more fun...jorgundals collar...

Then It would only be a 8.5% speed increase with haste... lol

I will no longer NEEEED the green goodness

[The_Phenx]

Ahh yes, I had forgotten about the dodge bonus... was thinking it was an Armor bonus.

Thanks



1- somewhat agree
2- agree
3- agree
4- if you have the time/inclination to run shroud a bazillion times. (It bores me, honestly)

Chatter.... 20-pray, 20-pray, and so on and so on.... never seen one drop, ever. I am just unlucky tho... had 4 of those darned SS's and 2 docents on my HALFLING ranger very useful......


/hijack off
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lol my main pulled a chattering 3rd run.

I already have enough ingredients socked away for 3 3rd tier shroud items

ANNNNDDDD..... halflings are the master race.

[The_Phenx]

In my version of this build, 3 monk 13 rogue seems to be the sweet spot for class breaks.

Oh and im also operating on the basis that Acrobat III will be at 18th level rouge...

[Lewcipher]

Ahh yes, I had forgotten about the dodge bonus... was thinking it was an Armor bonus.

Thanks



1- somewhat agree
2- agree
3- agree
4- if you have the time/inclination to run shroud a bazillion times. (It bores me, honestly)

Chatter.... 20-pray, 20-pray, and so on and so on.... never seen one drop, ever. I am just unlucky tho... had 4 of those darned SS's and 2 docents on my HALFLING ranger very useful......


/hijack off
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edit - spelling error

Shyv has some very interesting build ideas. I used one, and didn't mess it up too bad. Still looking for icy rainments though. As of now: 56 self AC with just barksin and CE, possible for 65 (short burst, so I don't really count it). Str based TWF ranger/fighter/monk.


OP - interesting build. Hope it's fun! Let us know how it turns out!

P.S. Chattering ring dropped on 2nd titan run - I know...I'm a jerk.

[The_Phenx]

+1 ac for halfling...forgot... fixed post

[direwolf33]

A neat novelty build - when you tire of the quarterstaff novelty you can always respec to the more powerful piercing twf build. For this reason I would make sure your stats fulfull the minimum requirements for GTWF and CE. This is also a reason to go 14/2 or 13/2/1 with fighter splash, since the 3rd monk level would be useless after respec.

[The_Phenx]

A neat novelty build - when you tire of the quarterstaff novelty you can always respec to the more powerful piercing twf build. For this reason I would make sure your stats fulfull the minimum requirements for GTWF and CE. This is also a reason to go 14/2 or 13/2/1 with fighter splash, since the 3rd monk level would be useless after respec.

Meh I already have a seriously high dps twf kopesh fighter.
The point is to do something different.
Not be another stat damaging piercing spec'd rouge.

Sides with the speed and power attack he might actually do some decent damage, we shall see. Hes kicking tail so far.

[Silverjade]

Meh I already have a seriously high dps twf kopesh fighter.
The point is to do something different.
Not be another stat damaging piercing spec'd rouge.

Sides with the speed and power attack he might actually do some decent damage, we shall see. Hes kicking tail so far.

Despite what many say a q-staff is a decent amount of damage considering that.
No1.Its at two handed weapon so more str damage and more from power attack.
No2.It is also really fast.
No3.Crits are not half bad either with a 30strish and seeker say bloodstone or better are in the 69+ as i recall.

That and the style are really fun.