Big F'n Stick Build

[The_Phenx]

HAHAHAH.... That would be kinda awesome.

The Big Stick

Str or Dex for TH and Damage whichever is higher.

4d6 20x2
Invisibility guard (ala cloak of night)
S/A +6/+8
Metalline
Red Slot
Improved Deception.
Inertia - This staff is able to store kinetic energy. As it builds from being in constant motion it will eventually burst forth knocking back and rendering your opponent helpless.

2% on hit chance to knock an enemy back 10 feet and to the ground. (DC40 Str check VS knockdown DC40 Fort VS Stun No save vs knockback). Sequential saves every 2 secconds. (think of hitting someone in the chest with a big stick they fly back 10 feet and get knocked down) (similar to how minotaur charge works but with a stun ability)


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After your years in the limelight you have learned to avoid attention when its not wanted. But when the occasion demands it, you can strike out with great fury. Walk softly but carry a big stick.
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(then if acro III gets cartwheel strike...Inertia knocks them back.. dazes them, then carwheel in to finish em off... sweet )


Something like that anyway.

[ElbionTcob]

Like the weapon description

So your thinking a SOS style dmg and maybe some CC on it?

[The_Phenx]

Aye. lets face it staffs arent known for critically hitting things...perhaps critically poking, but certainly not hitting, but they can be shod, internally weighted, etc.

When they do connect they can land devastating blows, especially when spun fast. Hence the 4d6 20x2

Lets put something in there for walking softly... stealth. Hence the invisibility guard, and the improved deception, which is what also warrants the improvement in the S/A rating... hence +6/+8.

Metalline and Red so its usefull against most of the game.

And a knockback/down + stun chance because its a big f'n stick . Worst case they fly back a few feet and come charging back in.

TADA!

[voodoogroves]

Aye. lets face it staffs arent known for critically hitting things...perhaps poking, but certaintly not hitting, but they can be shod, internally weighted, etc.

When they do connect they can land devastating blows, especially when spun fast. Hence the 3d6 20x3

Lets put something in there for walking softly... stealth. Hence the invisibility guard, and the improved deception, which is what also warrants the improvement in the S/A rating... hence +6/+8.

Metalline and Red so its usefull against most of the game.

And a knockback/down + stun chance because its a big f'n stick . Worst case they fly back a few feet and come charging back in.

TADA!

Inertia could really be epic Whirlwind-like.

I instead of x3 why not bigger base damage?

[The_Phenx]

like a 4d6 20x2?

I could go either way ;p

WHy not description changed lol....

[wiglin]

like a 4d6 20x2?

I could go either way ;p

WHy not description changed lol....

I don't want cc on the stick I want max damage for raid bosses. My survivability is really good, I don't need extra cc I need more dps. I would prefer something along these lines.

+10, 4d6, 20x4, Adamantine, Metalline, +6%Doublestrike, Red Slot

+10 = this is the max enhancement bonus on a weapon atm
4d6 = 2d6 more than the current max dmg staff
20x4 = this staff hits really hard on a crit, just not as often
Adamantine = for increase hardness and durability
Metalline = dr breaking
Doublestrike = solid dps increase not dependent on elements or alignment
Red Slot = more dr breaking options

This would be the sos of the stick world and actually give a reason to use sticks over handwraps on any monk splash. Plugging these numbers into barrage using just the above staff numbers vs the esos, looks like this.

Staff Final Average Swing = 27.98
ESOS Final Average Swing = 42.63

I just used the weapons stats only assuming 0 str and no power attack to compare the weapons themselves. The staff is still plenty behind the best dps weapon in the game, but in the hands of an acrobat with sneak attack and 20% alacrity it would give acrobats a reason to use a staff again other than flavor.

[ElbionTcob]

Now if only this would happen right?

[innersphere1]

wrong section delete this pls X)

[drac317]

dont know if anyone else noticed but rhals might shrunk

its actually smaller then gs sticks now

edit: and it does 1d11 now!

[ElbionTcob]

dont know if anyone else noticed but rhals might shrunk

its actually smaller then gs sticks now

edit: and it does 1d11 now!

I did not notice the size change actually, or the 1d11...

Edit: Holy ****...it is small now...And 1d11 is funky...

[drac317]

saw the size yesterday

didnt see the 1d11 til a few minutes ago

[XL_Jockey]

LOL, they turned the damage up to 11! Just for that extra "oomph".

[drac317]

LOL, they turned the damage up to 11! Just for that extra "oomph".

why not just make 10 louder?

but this one goes to 11.

[The_Phenx]

HAHA thats freakin awesome... I want a real world 11 sided die.


As far as the SOS comparison... as much as Id love it... we all know there will never be a super DPS staff.

Cause monks dont use em anyway, and acrobats they take into account all the S/A damage into the calculations.

It you dont like the thought of CC stacked on... Give it a proc chance for untyped damage... inertia = 3% chance for a 600Pt force attack.

Of course the ultimate solution is to make staffs a double weapon.

[Ebforest60]

why not just make 10 louder?

but this one goes to 11.

This change is so full of win! Love it.

[voodoogroves]

HAHA thats freakin awesome... I want a real world 11 sided die.


As far as the SOS comparison... as much as Id love it... we all know there will never be a super DPS staff.

Cause monks dont use em anyway, and acrobats they take into account all the S/A damage into the calculations.

It you dont like the thought of CC stacked on... Give it a proc chance for untyped damage... inertia = 3% chance for a 600Pt force attack.

Of course the ultimate solution is to make staffs a double weapon.

Non epic SOS got changed too...

[Braxion]

sadly the rahls is like a glowing toothpick. I really liked my halfling having this staff that was twice the size of his body.

yeah.. saw the 1d11.. odd

[Diyon]

Of course the ultimate solution is to make staffs a double weapon.

I don't think this can be said enough. Quarterstaff TWF would solve a lot of the deficiencies with staff characters.

[OldAquarian]

I don't think this can be said enough. Quarterstaff TWF would solve a lot of the deficiencies with staff characters.

I want to dual wield two staffs

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[Dartwick]

I don't think this can be said enough. Quarterstaff TWF would solve a lot of the deficiencies with staff characters.

And it would destroy the 2 handed nature of the staffs which would destroy many builds.

There is no reason to turn the game upsides down just to make some PnP purists happy.