Sorc Feats

[jarlaxle_dourden]

There is a general lack of feats for Sorcs.

Below is the list I have chosen for my sorc, I am interested in hearing what others have selected (went human for the extra feat):
Empower
Force of Personality
Mental Toughness
Extend
Improved Mental Toughness
Maximize
Spell Penetration

So from my wish list I am missing:
Enlarge
Greater Spell Penetration
Spell Focus
Greater Spell Focus
Heighten
Quicken Spell
Skill Focus UMD

Are there any from the list of feats I have as selected that you would swap out for one in the list of missing feats? If so, why?

[Auran82]

I would swap out both mental toughness feats for Gtr Spell Penetration and Heighten.

Greater spell pen because there is alot of stuff with spell resistance and I can only see this increasing and heighten for cc like web.

As a sorc you should have a heap of sp without needing the mental toughness feats, especially once you make a shroud SP item of at least tier 2.

[sirgog]

I would swap out both mental toughness feats for Gtr Spell Penetration and Heighten.

Greater spell pen because there is alot of stuff with spell resistance and I can only see this increasing and heighten for cc like web.

As a sorc you should have a heap of sp without needing the mental toughness feats, especially once you make a shroud SP item of at least tier 2.

A Tier 1 Shroud item grants a massive SP boost on its own.

I concur with Auran at current endgame. Heighten may become less important in future - it's only key at the moment because mobs have lower Reflex saves than other saves, and Web is the best Reflex save CC spell in game.

[Fennario]

Here is what my sorcerer (also human) is currently running with:

Maximize
Empower
Extend
Heighten
Spell Pen
Greater Spell Pen
Force of Personality

Like others here have said, the Mental Toughnesses are just not needed on a sorcerer. With a 34 charisma, the Dragonblooded enhancements, and a tier 3 shroud item you will be sitting at 2310 spell points. My sorcerer has a 36 charisma which gives him 2335.

A 34 charisma is easy to achieve.

A tier 3 shroud item only costs 12 smalls, 12 mediums, and 12 larges, unless you get fancy and put Lightning Strike on it which I don't think is necessary. 12 larges may or may not be hard to get depending on how many characters you have raiding the Shroud.

But even a tier 1 item for just 12 smalls will put you over the 2000 mark.

[unionyes]

Max
Empower
Mental Toughness
Spell Pen

Never cared for Heighten, although have seen others put it to good use. I mainly focused on making the hottest fire and the coldest ice I could, with enough manna to spam the damage.

[Tanka]

Heightened Web is the best CC for Shroud p4 and VoD runs, with Heightened Symbol of Stunning as a close runner-up, followed by Heightened Otto's Sphere of Dancing.

So, Heighten rocks. Otherwise, Extend, Maximize, Spell Pen and Greater Spell Pen are good to have.

[sirgog]

My take:

The Must-Haves:
Spell Penetration
Greater Spell Pen
Maximize Spell

The Very Good:
Empower Spell
Force of Personality
Extend Spell
SF: UMD

The Nice to Have:
Quicken (most important on WF)
Heighten
Enlarge
Toughness

The Very Overrated:
Both Mental Toughnesses


The two Spell Pen feats are critical, as every Finger of Death, Fear or Suggestion that fails to bypass SR is more than just a waste of SP - it's a potential partywipe if it happens at the wrong time. Likewise Maximize is critical (and Empower strongly advised) for SP-dumping to deal massive burst damage to bosses, especially self-healing bosses.

[DragoonPenguin]

My take:




The two Spell Pen feats are critical, as every Finger of Death, Fear or Suggestion that fails to bypass SR is more than just a waste of SP - it's a potential partywipe if it happens at the wrong time.

hahaha youre joking right? lol in what twisted universe does a trash mob pose any threat to you?

[Desteria]

hahaha youre joking right? lol in what twisted universe does a trash mob pose any threat to you?

when it;s the cleric that then poroceds to spam comitfall & Greater comand on the whole group keepign you all perma on your but untill you are all dead

[Monkey_Archer]

My sorc's current feats:
Spell pen
Greater spell pen
Maximise
Empower
Extend
Necromancy focus 1
Necromancy focus 2

I have been putting off getting heighten though... cant decide if i really want to pay and extra 5 sp for the same DC on my finger of death

I would definately reccomend replacing necro focus with heighten though.

[Desteria]

My sorc's current feats:
Spell pen
Greater spell pen
Maximise
Empower
Extend
Necromancy focus 1
Necromancy focus 2

I have been putting off getting heighten though... cant decide if i really want to pay and extra 5 sp for the same DC on my finger of death

I would definately reccomend replacing necro focus with heighten though.

Level 18 comming soon, get highten then and gain 2 MORE dc on Finger and you cna kepe the focuses, also highten will make soem other spells MUCH more effective higten web IS sweet, a Highten hyipno before you finegr every thign will keep a whole group still while you pickthem off one at a time

[Vizzini]

Essentials for me:

Maximize
Heighten
Extend
Spell Pen
Greater Spell Pen

Enlarge or Quicken I'm tied.. I think most people would say empower, but I'd have to say enlarge is my personal favorite.

There is a general lack of feats for Sorcs.

Below is the list I have chosen for my sorc, I am interested in hearing what others have selected (went human for the extra feat):
Empower
Force of Personality
Mental Toughness
Extend
Improved Mental Toughness
Maximize
Spell Penetration

So from my wish list I am missing:
Enlarge
Greater Spell Penetration
Spell Focus
Greater Spell Focus
Heighten
Quicken Spell
Skill Focus UMD

Are there any from the list of feats I have as selected that you would swap out for one in the list of missing feats? If so, why?

[Samadhi]

Wow several -

MT and IMT; just not needed on a sorc, period. The percentage jump in mana is so minimal as to be a huge waste.
Force of Personality - do you really need to worry about saves that much?? Aggro management FTW - other than the occassional greater command you shouldn't even need to be making will saves that much.

What you NEED -
HIEGHTEN - this spell is must-have for any caster that is ever going to do crowd control. Take it and never turn it off.

Other good feats -
More spell pen is always useful.
Enlarge is really nice, IMO, but I could see having trouble fitting it in in general. Given the feats mentioned above though, looks like you have room.
Maximize - Much better than empower. Most sorcs have both, and it looks like you can fit both. If you are just going to use one though - use maximize.
SF UMD - If your UMD is approaching heal scroll / no fail limits, then I would say go for it. If not, then this is probably secondary for you.