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    Default Adjust Shield Loot Tables Please

    I'm really sick of seeing bad shields drop inthe loot tables. In your attempt to expand the shield table, you really screwed it up evenmore....

    The things you added are nice... Potency/Devotion, False Life, Resistance, SR, etc etc etc...

    Unfortuantly, they are Mixing and matching so much, getting a decent shield is near immpossible out of the table.....

    +1 Superior Devotion III of SR 13? ML 14? Ugh...

    I have yet to even see a +5 Superior Devotion 6 Shield Or a +5 Greater False Life Shields..... THESE are ML12+ Shields.... Maybe even a Nice +3 or 4 Guard of Greater False life would be nice..... Or +5 of SR(20) or Resistance +4

    Scale Back the chance for multiple effects on shields.... we'd much rather see High + Single Effect sheilds.
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    I tyotally agree with this they are as bad as the ghost touch sheilds , from the old days LOL. I have to say though i did pull one nice sheild +5 ice gaurd heavy steel sheild of axe block. min 14 So its not all bad.

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    I gotta say this is a pet peeve of mine too.

    The effects are nice additions, but they are useless the way they've been put into the tables.

    Just more watering down.
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    agreed

    some of the shields are just plain silly with what is on them. if you actually use a +1 superior devotion II item at lvl 14 there is something wrong.
    the +'s and the abilties are just not lining up with the ML creating a lot of useless items

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    I have yet to find a shield that is worth anything. Same song as before only different.
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    I'll just stick with my +3 Mithral Heavy Shield of Heavy Fort

    I've yet to find anything better...
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    +5 with intimidation shield would be nice. Still hoping for green steel shields in this mod. I have 2 capped clerics, and they don't use shields. Much better to dual wield superior potency 6/greensteel with +3 wisdom/skiver/improved spell pen 7 than use any shield out there. Poster is correct, shields with devotion, potency don't even come close to being usable for high end toons.
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    I agree. If I never see 'weapons' drop for my capped characters with less than superior potency 6 or greater potency 7 anymore, why do shields drop with starter potency 1 very frequently?
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    I like the random loot tables...but they need a little more structure.

    I really don't mind some junk for charging/vendortrash...but some good stuff would be nice too.

    Power I/II/III or less guard or other stuff that on its own would be ML8 or less is generally useless on a high level char. It adds nothing and makes the item less valuable. This is most true for shields but also applies to weapons and clothing.

    I must say while I find the ghost touch metal weapon of ooze bane funny, it has zero usefulness.

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    I completely agree with the OP. As it stands right now ALL of these shields are vendor trash.
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    I agree.

    For some reason my sorc loves pulling shields, so when my she retires she is going to be a shield vendor!
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    I'd like to seem them altogether avoid adding effects on shields until they're +5 (ML8), or perhaps have how much they can divide up the ML equivalency where at least half of the ML has to be on the shield enhancement bonus, so all ML 16 shields would have to be +5 (ML 8).

    I swear, sometimes I look through the vendor and the auction house and there are pages at a time without a +5 shield of any kind.

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    Definitely agree.

    I have some other ideas as to mods that could appear on shields too, might make a new post as there's quite a lot of them.
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    all loot generate system should be a little adjust.
    xxx longsword of ooz ban is a junk.
    some pre-fix and surfix should be never on specific items.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dameron View Post
    I'd like to seem them altogether avoid adding effects on shields until they're +5 (ML8), or perhaps have how much they can divide up the ML equivalency where at least half of the ML has to be on the shield enhancement bonus, so all ML 16 shields would have to be +5 (ML 8).

    I swear, sometimes I look through the vendor and the auction house and there are pages at a time without a +5 shield of any kind.
    Eh, I don't know... As you hit the GH quests and AC doesn't matter unless you get it fairly high, at least some of my chars can't get that high AC and yet could carry a shield still so a +2 of something really good shield might be worth carrying not for AC but for the "of really good" and treating the shield slot like another clothing slot.

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    Default I guess I don't mind.

    I haven't seen a good one yet, but I think that's primarily due to bad rolls, and I keep hoping a good one will drop. I think the real issue here is that the Hound shields are so nice, it makes any others less attractive.
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    I second the motion.
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    Agreed, the shields are a complete joke. Thank god I had a couple decent shields saved up before they did that because I haven't seen one since that I would use on any toon in any situation ever.

    At least make them with greater vendoring - maybe multiply the vendor amount by 1.5x, as that would be much more useful than superior potency I. Shields essentially disappeared from the loot table to be replaced with metal drink certificates you can redeem at the nearest tavern. Metal drink certificates would be more interesting though.

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