Its The Muppet Show!!!!!

[WALDO]

Hi,

I'm Necroshade Xen'Umbra. This is the follow-on post to 19037's post about Kids 12 and Under. I'm pleased to announce that I am starting a guild for kids. All kids not looking for power games, not looking for a boss come and play with a kid who's just looking for other nice kids to play with. You are required to be a kid. I'm shooting for 12 and under, but will take up to 14. I don't care if you play well? I don't care if you need help? I just want other nice kids to play with. 19037 is my dad and will be watching the guild for our safety, but the guild is ours to make great. We have the support of guilds like the Umber Hulks and their friends.

Come play with us. Our guild is "The Muppet Show" (my dad thought that would be really funny, but I like it)

Necroshade

[Shyver]

Kudos, best wishes, and good luck.

[Memnir]

It's Time To Get Things Started!

[Quanefel]

It's Time To Get Things Started!

Why don't you get things started! Man, that brings back memories.....lol

[Dussty_Bottoms]

It's Time To Get Things Started!

That was great, I was able to sing along for the entire intro song, and I can't remember the last time I saw the Muppets.

[Durack]

[Pwesiela]

You know what Uamhas said? I don't know if she'll be able to follow up on it, but Pia can. Just check the sig.

[Wrigley]

Good luck and if you need anything to help you get started DWAT will be happy do what we can. Great plan, and kudos for posting to get it started.

[Uamhas]

And if anybody gives you any grief, just tell Auntie Uma and we'll see about straightening that out ASAP.

[captain1z]

even kids like cool names.

my friends son is 7 yrs old and he draws pictures of characters he has created with names like:


- the assassin
- black pirate
- super tank
- the wizard


he is a child, but doesnt like being treated like one.

He has even started playing PNP with us............ despite his fathers attempts to influence his actions in-game I insist that he lives and dies by whatever actions he chooses to take.........be they good or newbish.


When he said he wanted to walk up to a group of bugbears and pretend to be one of them, with no disguise of any sort......... I warned him that they dont like him and he wouldnt be hiding anymore........... he said "ok, I know"

They attacked and chased him for miles.............. it made a great distraction for the rest of the group to do what they needed to do. Sadly I dont think he thought far enough ahead to plan an escape. He got captured, lost all his stuff but they rescued him later.

His character is now 4th level and he doesnt feel like he is cut out to be a rogue so he is multi-classing a a fighter. I did tell him he should go dex fighter to take advantage of his dexterity and he agreed that he is not very strong so he would do it.

[Ringos]

When he said he wanted to walk up to a group of bugbears and pretend to be one of them, with no disguise of any sort.........

LOL! That's funny stuff!


BTW, good luck to the OP and his new guild!

[branmakmuffin]

They attacked and chased him for miles.............. it made a great distraction for the rest of the group to do what they needed to do. Sadly I dont think he thought far enough ahead to plan an escape. He got captured, lost all his stuff but they rescued him later.

Was that before or after the grisly torture?

Wait, if it was before, I guess there was no grisly torture.

[petegunn]

Lol i wish i was 28 years younger hehe .Good luck with the guild and I hope you kids have a blast !

[Deadslug]

And if anybody gives you any grief, just tell Auntie Uma and we'll see about straightening that out ASAP.

You know what Uamhas said? I don't know if she'll be able to follow up on it, but Pia can. Just check the sig

I AM ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!1

Auntie Uma!!!!!! Pia!!!!!!!! Help!

Delt,
I'm a dad? You've attacked my nine year old son? You stand by calling him names? It never dawned on you that this may actually be real? I have not attacked you or your kid?
Because you can not hear that, because you can not feel that, because you can not see that, because you in no way shape or form have attempted to be understanding of that, I can not believe that you are a parent. No parent would stand by and watch their kid attacked. Do you have any remorse? Do you have any comprehension of what it is that you have done? If i treated your kid like you are treating mine in the playground at your local park, you'd have some pretty harsh words for me, if you weren't attempting to settle it physically? I am continuing to try diplomacy (my charisma is low and my roll isn't high, I am a WF Barbarian ya know). I am continuing to try and explain, and reassure you that this is not a joke. You've come onto a guild recruiting thread and flamesprayed the guild and the leader. What's worse is you came into a kids' guild recruiting thread and did these things. I do not want drama between you and I. I do not want to have my son's guild recruiting thread locked because you did not show the discretion expected of a parent dealing with another parent's kid.
I have been around these forums for years. I have been around Thelanis for years. The people that do know me. The people that know I'm the Guild Leader of the Umber Hulks. These people know how concerned with this topic I was. The original post for this is "Kids 12 & Under" In that thread, many suggested we try to create a guild. You will notice that I am still not flame spraying you. I am trying to help you to understand who I am, who we are and to rebuttle what you have said. I promise. This is the last post I will direct towards you.
I am sorry that you had a negative experience with my son. If you do not want to quest with him, I understand. Many adults do not want to. You dropped group after 5 minutes. I notice that he completed VON 2 that day. They had one fail during VON 2. They must have completed VON 1. VON 2 is, by far, harder than 1. They completed both that day. I took over from him half way through VON 2 because he was worried about making others mad at him. That's what we do. I help him. He's my kid.

I'm 19037, and that's what I think.

[Krysta_Shadowvol]

Deadslug,

Simply put as a parent myself you are correct "No parent would stand by and watch their kid attacked."

That's why I am posting I wanted you to know that I applaud what your son is trying to do and wish him the best of luck.

I have grouped with some of you in the past including your son so If he needs a hand tell him to look me up (my nams are in my sig) and I'll help him out if I can.

I have a nephew who plays so I know the challenges they face sometimes.

See you in Stormreach.

[Voalkrynn2]

Great idea on having a kid guild. I hope it is successful and wish you good luck.

It is disappointing that other players are forced to put in LFMs 'No Kids". I will play with kids when I want to and on my terms. However, you can't discriminate by limiting membership to an age range without accepting the same action from adults that limit their game time to partying with adults.

[Pwesiela]

I AM ALIVE!!!!!!!!!!1

Auntie Uma!!!!!! Pia!!!!!!!! Help!

I think I (Pwes) need to step aside and allow Pia to respond.

/steps aside and a 3 foot halfling takes the floor, trimming her nails with what looks like a rather nasty wounding of puncturing dagger.

*ahem*

Helping to create a guild where younger adventurers of Stormreach can meet and mingle in a overseen (by guildleader father and by guildmember parent) and non-offensive manner is a noble endeavor and should be supported and lauded. Having it be a guild allows older and more experianced adventurers to undertake two separate and mutually exclusive actions.

1) Enter the adventure with a good understanding of who the player is and how it would be appropriate to respond and help in any given situations.

2) Leave the group politely and find adventure elsewhere, where one can engage in their raucous and callous behaviors with complete freedom.

Either way you do it, the point with the guild is that you do it nicely.

As a side note, for those of you who are interested, muppet is a term that does not originate with Jrp, or whoever used it first here. It's a relatively long standing term used in MMO's and only recently transplanted itself here in Thelanis. It is similar to the term noob. When seen as a guild name, keep in mind that it means the guild member is a younger adventurer who demands a higher level of sensitivity than my sisters Dominique and Mwetida do.

Everyone play nice.

*Pia sheathes the dagger next to its companion and melts into the black background of the forum pages while Pwes steps back up to the podium.

There. Play nice with them, or don't play with them. Your choice. But me and my sisters will be there to support them in their endeavors.

[Uamhas]

I frequently group with a fellow that's underage. Most people don't realize he's not an adult unless he talks, and then only because his voice is that of a pre-adolescent, not because of his behaviour. He's mature, a good listener, and an excellent player. He is the son of a very nice guy that also plays on Thelanis. I've also grouped with kids that I've had to /squelch just so I don't hear the "SQUEEE" through my headset one more time. Those usually only last until the end of that particular quest, then I gotta go. If you don't like to group with kids at all, maybe you should put me on your do not group with list. I'm not saying I will last through a von1-4 run with a kid with ADD and too much sugar, but you never know when I'll be in party with a minor. Yeah, kinda hard to believe.

There's a simple solution for the Umber Hulks and Delt: /squelch each other and go your seperate ways. Deadslug, I strongly recommend this course of action for you and your son. Delt, you've stated your opinion, and I urge you to leave it alone, now. I do not see an imminent meeting of the minds via the forum, but I could be wrong.
You can squelch here on the forums, too.

If I see anyone continuing to attack the OP, I will be most displeased.
This is a community, and as a community, we have certain checks and balances in place that work despite being unable to reach through the monitor and throttle someone that annoys us.

Remember that it could be much... MUCH worse.
This could be Khyber.
(I joke... ^)

[Voalkrynn2]

I think I (Pwes) need to step aside and allow Pia to respond.

/steps aside and a 3 foot halfling takes the floor, trimming her nails with what looks like a rather nasty wounding of puncturing dagger.

*ahem*

Helping to create a guild where younger adventurers of Stormreach can meet and mingle in a overseen (by guildleader father and by guildmember parent) and non-offensive manner is a noble endeavor and should be supported and lauded. Having it be a guild allows older and more experianced adventurers to undertake two separate and mutually exclusive actions.

1) Enter the adventure with a good understanding of who the player is and how it would be appropriate to respond and help in any given situations.

2) Leave the group politely and find adventure elsewhere, where one can engage in their raucous and callous behaviors with complete freedom.

Either way you do it, the point with the guild is that you do it nicely.

As a side note, for those of you who are interested, muppet is a term that does not originate with Jrp, or whoever used it first here. It's a relatively long standing term used in MMO's and only recently transplanted itself here in Thelanis. It is similar to the term noob. When seen as a guild name, keep in mind that it means the guild member is a younger adventurer who demands a higher level of sensitivity than my sisters Dominique and Mwetida do.

Everyone play nice.

*Pia sheathes the dagger next to its companion and melts into the black background of the forum pages while Pwes steps back up to the podium.

There. Play nice with them, or don't play with them. Your choice. But me and my sisters will be there to support them in their endeavors.

To assume one would leave to solely enjoy the deprivations of "raucous and callous behaviors" is an ill conceived notion and inappropriate comment indeed. One might leave to enjoy game play that is coherent and successfully run quest as opposed to an ineffective chaotic multi-directional attack into STK that costs the cleric more than 90% of her mana healing kids before the party has reached the Kobold blockade, is doing most of the killing and has 3 of 6 stones in her backpack already. One might also decide to depart after being cursed or after tolerating incoherent ramblings about a kid's life clogging up voice chat all the way through VON 3 to the Marut. It is also quite difficult to figure out an individuals game play, be they adult or child, until it is too late. It is agreed that the manner in which one departs such a circumstance should be cordial and/or respectful.