Another solution to plat farmers infestation

[kudesnik]

I suggest to block tells from trial accounts unless they in friend list.

I.e.
1. If you have regular account you tells will not be blocked unless person specifically squelched you. ( no changes here ).
2. If you have trial account your tell will not be accepted by any players by default - unless you added into friend list( or if friend list is not a good place then create new list, but that is more work).

That way ppl who want tried game and still will be able to chat in guild/channel/group or general channel, and if they real ppl they will be added into friend list on request, but direct tells will be disabled by default. As soon as person getting real subscription this restriction will be GONE
I think this approach will finally solve "TELL" problem.

I am not sure how easy or hard this is to implement. But I assume that it is possible unless tells go direct pc->pc without server, in that case for each tell pc will have to ask server "accept tell ?" question - which is more work and extra time to check.

[JD2134]

how about trail account can only reply to tells and not start them

they could still ask for help in general but if you responded in a tell they be able to talk with you

[Zaodon]

OMFG....

We don't need more ideas for this, we've had a viable idea for OVER A YEAR and Turbine has not implemented it yet.

Options Panel:
[X] Block Tells from Trial Accounts

[Memnir]

Plat spam will only end when Turbine decides to act upon the vast array of suggestions/pleas for help made by it's player base or takes a look at some other games for ideas on how to start. To it's credit, Turbine did take steps by stopping mail spam. I would hope they take steps to curtail Tell spam in the future beyond the pretty impotent "report spam" button, but I really don't hold out a lot of hope in that regard. They just don't seem to be interested, or feel it's enough of a problem.

[MissErres]

OMFG....

We don't need more ideas for this, we've had a viable idea for OVER A YEAR and Turbine has not implemented it yet.

Options Panel:
[X] Block Tells from Trial Accounts

More like...

Do we need another thread about this??

[Draccus]

More like...

Do we need another thread about this??

How about this option for the forums:

[x] Block threads on plat farmer solutions.

[arminius]

What I don't understand is, what does it really get the spammers, really?

Are there really that many people wandering around the game desiring to buy plat and items but blissfully unaware of, say, going to the hidden, obscure site www.google.com and typing in "DDO plat?"

Are there really that many people who would want to do it but don't know where to go and only know and get really motivated when prompted by hundreds of poorly spelled, hideously grammared blocks of inscrutible yellow text that come streaming past them as they play?

The whole thing just seems so....improbable.

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[Zaodon]

What I don't understand is, what does it really get the spammers, really?

Are there really that many people wandering around the game desiring to buy plat and items but blissfully unaware of, say, going to the hidden, obscure site www.google.com and typing in "DDO plat?"

Are there really that many people who would want to do it but don't know where to go and only know and get really motivated when prompted by hundreds of poorly spelled, hideously grammared blocks of inscrutible yellow text that come streaming past them as they play?

The whole thing just seems so....improbable.

_

So, your position is, advertising does not boost sales.

[Reverand]

Want to stop the farmers, stop buying plat.

I know this isn't going to happen. There is always SOME ONE out there that just can't earn it with playing. I'm a casual player with 16 cleric as a main. I have never had to buy plat. Granted wand costs, scrolls... bla bla bla are expensive, but there have always been plenty of other players that will hand you a few wands for a quest or heal scrolls for a raid.


So what do people need 100kPP for anyways? I've never seen the need.

[Dimicron]

So, your position is, advertising does not boost sales.

I know when I get a random tell with something like:

"Hello u being buy much our plat now. Our member system is perfected A+B/2-C^2+X=Y when solved for C"

It sure makes me want to buy plat from that company... right... I mean with their knowledge of the english languange and accuracy in typing, I'm sure they won't take my money and run. or sell my character names to some other company. or send me the wrong amount of plat. or report my mocking query to the loot gods.

I really wish they'd make a new server, allow legal selling/buying of plat on it then all the farmers can have their own spammy server and I could game in piece. I get enough ads in real life, and I hate them here too. I don't want anymore in game. If I could somehow opt-out of them, that would be one thing, but I can't. Therefore, the onus is upon Turbine to end the spammer scourge. I wish Turbine would hurry with that

[mehlinda]

Put a box everyone can check in options to accept tells from trial accounts. If the box is not checked, no tells. Now the 4 people that actually need them can still recieve tells and the rest of us can lose a little h8...

[Garth_of_Sarlona]

woot - another thread on suggestions for plat farmer spam!

this means I can suggest using player editable regular expression filter on incoming tells... again..

maybe the devs will implement this finally - heck, give me the code and I'll implement it for them

Garth

[Zaodon]

I know when I get a random tell with something like:

"Hello u being buy much our plat now. Our member system is perfected A+B/2-C^2+X=Y when solved for C"

It sure makes me want to buy plat from that company... right... I mean with their knowledge of the english languange and accuracy in typing, I'm sure they won't take my money and run. or sell my character names to some other company. or send me the wrong amount of plat. or report my mocking query to the loot gods.

Using your logic, you would conclude that no one buys Viagra.
You would be wrong.

[Luth]

I agree that there doesn't need to be another thread with suggestions on how to exterminate the infestation of gold spammers. It is a problem though, I will agree with that. Some people say learn to deal with it, because it's going to happen. I find it very annoying personally, and many others do as well. We are paying our monthly fee and obeying the rules in the EULA. They should be curteous to do the same.
But like all other threads on this forum we as customers can sit and moan, yell, and "tell turbine what they should do" about an issue but ultimately it comes down to them. It was stated earlier that this is an issue that has been going on for over a year. They obviously have thought about the problem because there is an option to "report gold spammer". What good that does, I don't think any of us know, but to the obvious view it seems to have not discouraged them at all.
So the threads will continue to rage until some closure has come.

Can anyone point us out to where Turbine themselves have addressed the issue? Plans they have to fix it? Maybe the current system has some intricate machine learning algorithm at work and we just need to keep on clicking?

If not then here is a plea to Turbine. Would you let us know if you have plans to fix the issue? So many threads aren't necessary, but so many threads are a decent indicator of flustered customers. We know you read the forums and I think I'm not alone in saying this is an issue that needs to be addressed.

[Dimicron]

Using your logic, you would conclude that no one buys Viagra.
You would be wrong.

No, and I really don't see how you got that idea? You didn't quote my whole post, and your sarcasm meter may require new batteries

I know that people are buying plat. I just wish the deluge of spam would stop. And it won't stop as long as people continue buying plat.

[Nott]

They obviously have thought about the problem because there is an option to "report gold spammer". What good that does, I don't think any of us know, but to the obvious view it seems to have not discouraged them at all.

That pretty much sums up what good it does. When I can get a repeat of the spam from the same character 5 minutes after I've reported the spam, during busy hours (meaning there's no doubt that others are reporting the spam as well), I can believe that at best, my "report spam" goes into a queue for manual investigation. No doubt, when a Turbine rep eventually gets to it, they see a report including the tell I received, they agree "this account needs banning!", and they disable the trial account that was used.... big fat hairy deal. To have allowed this problem to go unsolved for so long makes it clear where we stand as paying customers -- we stand right where they want us, since they've build a game good enough to withstand this harassment, so significant numbers of people will not cancel their subscriptions over it.

[Nott]

Maybe the current system has some intricate machine learning algorithm at work and we just need to keep on clicking?

I don't know about you, but I receive no more than four unique messages (each repeated several times during a normal game session)... they don't need a learning algorithm, the "report spam" tool is enough as a front end. A little back-end work would make dealing with the issue completely automated.

[cbj192]

We don't need to go through this again and again

Turbine does nothing b/c they are the paltfarmers or they cut a deal with them

I love conspiracy theories

But who really cares?

And if you do you really shouldn't, just log on and enjoy your quest. Those little tells don't really ruin much of anything.

[Mithran]

What I don't understand is, what does it really get the spammers, really?

Are there really that many people wandering around the game desiring to buy plat and items but blissfully unaware of, say, going to the hidden, obscure site www.google.com and typing in "DDO plat?"

Are there really that many people who would want to do it but don't know where to go and only know and get really motivated when prompted by hundreds of poorly spelled, hideously grammared blocks of inscrutible yellow text that come streaming past them as they play?

The whole thing just seems so....improbable.

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The issue is not that there is demand, but that it's free to spam in-game.

[MissErres]

How about this option for the forums:

[x] Block threads on plat farmer solutions.

/signed!!!!