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    Quote Originally Posted by Forceonature View Post
    Don't you know that you always ask for a little more than you would take?
    Actually, here, we say you always got to ask for twice more than what you need.

    I guess that is my problem... I'm being too logical and asking for what I think should be done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Borror0 View Post
    I guess that is my problem... I'm being too logical and asking for what I think should be done.
    You of all people should know by now that logic has nothing to do with the way the enhancement system has been handled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenGurgler View Post
    Maybe in combo builds but do you think so for Pure fighters?

    It seems to me that at high levels, there is little benefit to going/staying pure fighter. Others can out DPS you, others have better AC,others have better DR... Fighters are just a good all around backup.. but most parties would prefer a Ranger or Barbarian. It would be nice to give fighters something special (and meaningfull) for remaining pure (or mostly pure).

    I have a 16 pure fighter and wish I had splashed something else in there at some point as I am constantly out performed at all levels by hybrids (I think my fighter was top tier when level cap was 10-12, but as cap goes up, he is less and less useful -also, he is still a fine fighter in many PUGs but guilded I feel inadequete). I recall several times the Devs have said or eluded to the idea that 'if we knew what they did, we would remain pure class'. God I hope they are right. At this time (actually when cap goes up) I dont know if its worth splashing anything anymore as I never built/planned to accomodate any other classes.

    My situation/choice limits me to NOT rebuilding him either ( I dont play enough and it would take me 2-3 months to cap, plus the raid loot, GS item and +2 tomes that were used took me forever to collect in the first place. For me and my level of luck..these items would take me over a year to re-collect... I dont want to hear how these things are a dime a dozen because for many unlucky players THEY SIMPLY ARE NOT COMMEN or even very rare.. more like unique).

    I would LOVE to see something geared at making fighters valuable and desireable (They are by no means broken or useless, just kind of second fiddle).
    I have met a few equals to Ghinsuu but its been a long time since hes been beaten. Even tho "on paper" some builds are better.
    1/3 build 1/3 gear 1/3 the guy at the keyboard. But alas even I pray to be more uber.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post
    I have met a few equals to Ghinsuu but its been a long time since hes been beaten. Even tho "on paper" some builds are better.
    1/3 build 1/3 gear 1/3 the guy at the keyboard. But alas even I pray to be more uber.
    Ghinsuu is one of the few fighter builds I like. That being said, I enjoy trouncing him =p
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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminati View Post
    Ghinsuu is one of the few fighter builds I like. That being said, I enjoy trouncing him =p
    Can't we all just get along? and form a shroud run for a 25 minute sprint....
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    Quote Originally Posted by krud View Post
    Did you just read my NeatoMan build or what? Everything you just listed is a perfect fit, right down to the feats listed. sign me up!
    nope i was just planning for my Shugar, who cares abt you!
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    Another idea is to have racial tied specialties:

    Human: Gladiator theme. +INTIMIDATE +Strategy
    Halfling: + to quickness or additional AC
    Elf: See invisible
    Drow: always on 10% blur
    Dwarf: +2 stackable dr
    Warforged: +2 BAB or an extra swing per round

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    Quote Originally Posted by Illuminati View Post
    Ghinsuu is one of the few fighter builds I like. That being said, I enjoy trouncing him =p
    Trouncing? PAH....I believe I got you by 4 the last time there buddy

    One day ill post my super secret build (rofl) and then there will be multitudes of lil me's running around to compete with all the iron monks... (who knew they bred like rabbits).

    The funny part is I get asked about the build all the time...but I have yet to see someone finish it, they always deviate at somepoint, and bow to the pressure to multiclass
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    Quote Originally Posted by nbhs275 View Post
    Can't we all just get along? and form a shroud run for a 25 minute sprint....
    Jus leme know... I'm shure we could get Blazer to cleric it.
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    What are you dragging me into now, Crown Prince?

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    Super speed run thru the shroud?

    And of course no ends of trouble.
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    Below is a post copied from the "Mod 7 was your fighter love thread" above. Eladrin (the Dev) indicates that the fighter PrCs will be Dwaven Defender, Kensai and Purple Dragon Knight. There is no info on how they will be implemented in DDO.


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    Kensai

    Good guess.

    Currently the plan for Fighters is (Dwarven) Defender, Kensai, and Purple Dragon Knight.

    Yes, originally I had PDK listed as a Paladin one, but they went Defender of Siberys (Sealtiel), Knight of the Chalice, Hunter of the Dead. Purple Dragon Knight fit the fighters better as we started working on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Phenx View Post
    Super speed run thru the shroud?

    And of course no ends of trouble.
    Im putting a Forum Post up for it as i type...
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    Im waiting to see the implementation...but its a lil screwey so far.

    Wheres my blademaster... I suppose its Kensai, but to have to have a 13 int, more ranks in things than can currently be gotten with the level cap as it stands...it doesnt lend much.
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