Burlock III - WF Intimitank

[negative]

After planning and replanning this build, I'm at the point where I think I'm pretty happy with this build, however, I would really apprieciate some candid feedback regarding wether I'd be wasting my time with this build in end-game content. The build is pretty straight foward, a high AC, decent HP, decent saves, high intimidate build, that also has a high DC on tactical feats for good measure. It makes use of Force of Personality, so that I can dump my wisdom, and centergize both saves and intimidate off of charisma.

I will say, I'm hesitant to actually play this build until the new "tactical fighter feats" are introduced, because that could change this build.

Edit: I forgot to add this question. Basically, before I get the raid gear (greensteel, chattering ring), will this build still be viable for end-game or is it totally depending on raid gear. I like to hear what other people think.

Burrlock III
Warforged - Intimitank
16 Fighter

Starting Stats:
16 - +1 Tome, +4 Level, +3 Enhance, +6 Item = 30
12 - +1 Tome
16 - +6 Item +2 tome = 24
12 - +1 Tome
6
13 - +1 Tome, +6 Item = 20

Skills:
Intimidate
Jump
Balance

Feats:
1 - Adamantine Body, Weapon Focus
2 - Stunning Blow
3 - Force of Personality
4 - Combat Expertise
5 - 
6 - Toughness, Improved Trip
7 - 
8 - Improved Critical
9 - Iron Will
10 - Greater Weapon Focus
11 - 
12 - Bullheaded, Dodge
13 - 
14 - Shield Mastery
15 - Skill Focus: Intimidate
16 - Improved Shield Mastery


Enhancements:
Fighter Armor Class Boost II
Fighter Armor Mastery III (With Mithral Tower Shield)
Fighter Strategy Stunning Blow III
Fighter Strategy Trip II
Fighter Intimidate II
Fighter Strength III
Fighter Toughness IV
Warforged Construct Thnking II
Warforged Healer's Friend II
Warforged Tactics II

AC:
10 base 
13 Armor 
4 DEX 
9 Tower Shield 
5 Protection 
5 CE 
2 Chaosguard 
1 Dodge Feat
3 Bark pot 
1 Haste 
53

2 Alchemical Ritual
55

2 Recitation 
57

2 Ranger 
4 Bard 
63

2 Fgt Boost
65

3 Chattering Ring 
4 Insight Shroud 
72

5 Pally 
77

1 Docent of the Claw (Ok, I'll probably never see this)
78
 
HP:
400
20 Heroic Durability
160 D10 HD
112 24 Con
18 Toughness Feat
50 Toughness Enhancement
30 Greater False Life
10 Argo Favor

Intimidate:
50
19 Ranks
15 Item
2 Bullheaded
3 SF: Intimidate
2 Intimidate AP (This can be bumped to +4 at cost of -1 will save and -1 DC trip, stunning blow)
5 20 CHA
2 Head of Good Fortune
2 Tier II Cha skills item

[hydra_ex]

Not bad, except I dont think the shroud items stack with intimidate items. The AC seems great, as does the hp. I think this will be a fun, and useful build to play.

P.S. Of oucrse its great, its the third reroll

[Borror0]

Not bad, except I dont think the shroud items stack with intimidate items.

It does stack.

[Aspenor]

It does stack.

The exceptional bonuses do. On the Tempered items though, the intimidate is a competence bonus.

[Borror0]

Overall, very good build. Any reason you're not taking paladin? Would improve the build on all points it seems.

Edit: I forgot to add this question. Basically, before I get the raid gear (greensteel, chattering ring), will this build still be viable for end-game or is it totally depending on raid gear. I like to hear what other people think.

I'd say 55 AC is the break point right now.

[Borror0]

The exceptional bonuses do. On the Tempered items though, the intimidate is a competence bonus.

I know that, but the OP listed a +15 item and a +2 Exceptional bonus. Read Aspenor, Read!!

[Aspenor]

I know that, but the OP listed a +15 item and a +2 Exceptional bonus. Read Aspenor, Read!!

Why should i do that when you can do it for me?

[Borror0]

Why should i do that when you can do it for me?

Stop trying to look cool. We know you're a n00b.

[maddmatt70]

Sigh, for end game I would alter this build. Pick up all three thf feats which would come in handy for the shroud among other places for dps. The feats I would swap out would be dodge, and the two tactical feats although I like tactics it just isn't worth it at the moment (weapon focus isn't worth it if you don't have weapon specialization by the way either). Your dps isn't that great - my bard if she ran around with a shield would do more dps then your wf fighter even if your wf fighter were receiving the same buffs. Pure level 16 fighter just isn't that great right now which is why alot of people will splash some levels of paladin, rogue, or monk. Go with 2 or 3 paladin levels like borro recommends.. Overall though fighters and paladins will probably change with the next mod so making a new fighter or paladin is slightly risky as Iruka found out when the devs changed zeal back..

[maddmatt70]

To be real candid. I wouldn't make a sword and board build right now - I just wouldn't. If you want an ac character go twf with monk splash..

[maddmatt70]

Overall, very good build..

Come on now you are better then that..

[Borror0]

Come on now you are better then that..

I agree with what you said, hopefuly the Devs will debuff TwF AC by a bit and buff up S&Bers.

Oh, and fighters and paladins.

[maddmatt70]

I agree with what you said, hopefuly the Devs will debuff TwF AC by a bit and buff up S&Bers.

Oh, and fighters and paladins.

I don't think they need to debuff twf really as much as buff up sword and board. Helping out fighters and paladins will indirectly help sword and board by the way as that is the primary classes of most sword and boarders..

[Borror0]

I don't think they need to debuff twf really as much as buff up sword and board.

Pl, let me reword... rangers. Get rid of the Tempest AC bonus and either remove Ravored Defense or at least add a diversity at end game. You know... mroe than just Evil Outsiders. But you know, I'm always in favor of deflating value rather than buffing them.

[negative]

So, is the general concensus that weapon focus and greater weapon focus isn't worth it? What if I was to pick up weapon spec and greater weapon spec as bonus fighter feats at 18 and 20?

If I did drop WF and GWF, I'd probably pick up at least power attack for those times I'm using a two handed weapon (not going to mess with the THF feats though). I'm not sure what I'd pick up in place of the other feat. Maybe one of those new fighter tactical feats they are promising could be good, or that could the feat I burn if I took two pally levels.

As for the pally levels, I've been debating that myself, and it does add a lot of the build for almost no cost, but I'm hesitant. Maybe it's because I'd just like to keep the build pure, or because I'm not sure what levels 17-20 will bring. On the other hand, I can take the pally levels at any point, even as late as levels 19 and 20. It's definelty something to consider when you are gaining +5 to all saves and being able to provide some of a pally's AC auro yourself.

I'm not planning on dropping the tactics feats though, as in my experiance they've been really usefull, and help to make a SnB viable as far as killing things, not that being an intimitank isn't a boon to a party already.

I'm going to sleep on all this, and if I decide to make any changes to the build, I'll make a post with it.