Was there a need for the armor AC ritual?

[adamkatt]

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it works fine on rogues, *** are you talking about.

Have you shoved a rogue in the machine??? Id love to see the result.

[adamkatt]

I can understand adding a +1 AC to shields, to give a boost to sword and board players who have fallen behind TWF. I don't understand why the +1 AC ritual was made available for armor, because everyone can add that it doesnt seem to do much except inflate AC across the board. Not to mention that getting vials of water and prayer beads is 50x easier than getting 2 khyber tomes and 6 silver flame hymnals for the shield ritual.

Just wondering if someone has some -insight- here. Thanks.

Was there a need? Well it got my poor paladin to a 52 ac so yeah i needed it!

[Xithos]

Future content will account for the AC inflation that everyone is getting from the rituals, but for older content and the stuff we have now you are +1 more uber. Enjoy it; my Ranger/Defender appreciates the +1 AC for the stuff I am currently running.

[Lord_X]

So can I add the dodge bonus to my dragonscale shield or armor?

[Lewcipher]

It only works on armour and sheilds. There is a jewellery ritual which would add a +1 saving throw bonus to jewellery (which includes bracers)

No sir, this ritual works on robes as well.

[Lewcipher]

So can I add the dodge bonus to my dragonscale shield or armor?

yes

[Lord_X]

Thanks Lewcipher, its so hard to keep up with which items are still bugged and which aren't any more...so if I do the ritual to give the +1 dodge bonus to my dragonscale armor, I still have to perform the binding ritual first even though its bound already, equip it after the ritual, and then do the +1 dodge ritual. Is this correct?

[Lewcipher]

Thanks Lewcipher, its so hard to keep up with which items are still bugged and which aren't any more...so if I do the ritual to give the +1 dodge bonus to my dragonscale armor, I still have to perform the binding ritual first even though its bound already, equip it after the ritual, and then do the +1 dodge ritual. Is this correct?

No. If it's bound already you do not have to do the ritual to bind it. You're GOOD TO GO!

[Osharan_Tregarth]

No. If it's bound already you do not have to do the ritual to bind it. You're GOOD TO GO!

Are you sure?

I was under the impression that you still needed to "attune" the armor/item before you could do any rituals.

The bound stuff just doesn't take any damage by default.

[moorewr]

You still need to "attune" bound items. Big deal - we all have plenty of khyber shards.

That said, if you are using a dragon scale item, it's already bound, so no reason not to apply a ritual.

[EightyFour]

Just for anyone doing the rituals that get confused, the armor ritual that gives a +1 bonus to AC is listed as a feat bonus, for the +1 AC shield ritual it is listed as a dodge bonus.

[Aesop]

The rituals should scale with the type of armor... it would at least then benefitthe people that are currently lacking in the way of Luv


Robes and Light armor should gain +1
Medium and Heavy +2

Bucklers and Light Shields +1
Heavy and Tower Shields +2

does this fix the AC disparity between TWF and S&B no but it does help a little


unrelated note Icy Raiments should be changed from a Dodge Bonus to an Insight Bonus and the other bonus should be +4 Resistance... or better yet +3 Insight Bonus to AC and +3 Insight Bonus to Saves

just thinking outloud

Aesop

[Dexxaan]

The rituals should scale with the type of armor... it would at least then benefitthe people that are currently lacking in the way of Luv


Robes and Light armor should gain +1
Medium and Heavy +2

Bucklers and Light Shields +1
Heavy and Tower Shields +2
does this fix the AC disparity between TWF and S&B no but it does help a little


unrelated note Icy Raiments should be changed from a Dodge Bonus to an Insight Bonus and the other bonus should be +4 Resistance... or better yet +3 Insight Bonus to AC and +3 Insight Bonus to Saves

just thinking outloud

Aesop

Excellent Idea.


Devs? Hello?

[moorewr]

Dumb question - can you apply a Stone of Change ritual (the force damage ritual, for example) to an upgraded greensteel item?

[esoitl]

Are you sure?

I was under the impression that you still needed to "attune" the armor/item before you could do any rituals.

The bound stuff just doesn't take any damage by default.

Quite sure it has to be a bound and attuned item to apply rituals, do yourself a favor and spend the tiny ammount of khyber shards to make sure not to lose the ingredients beforehand as bound items are not attuned by default.

Dumb question - can you apply a Stone of Change ritual (the force damage ritual, for example) to an upgraded greensteel item?

I don't see why not. I forget how the GS items are treated but to be sure about it make sure the item is attuned beforehand unless you have extra ritual ingredients to spend. I may have to go find a bound shield to check the shield ritual unless someone else has already. Those ingredients are pretty easy to find.

[Lewcipher]

You still need to "attune" bound items. Big deal - we all have plenty of khyber shards.

That said, if you are using a dragon scale item, it's already bound, so no reason not to apply a ritual.

Oops, my mistake. Guess that's why you need equivalent weapon + squared for the shards. binding and attuning

[tihocan]

Dumb question - can you apply a Stone of Change ritual (the force damage ritual, for example) to an upgraded greensteel item?

Yes

[HumanJHawkins]

I'm specifically avoiding doing the ritual on my one and only plain vanilla +5 mithral, and saving it for better suits at later levels. Already saw that and avoided it.

This further supports the OP. The fact is that the best robes in the game are a dime a dozen. +5 Tower Shields run about 100K plat, and +5 MFP is 400K.

So, this actually boosted the AC of rangers and monks much more than Sword and Board. Because S&B have to be much more conservative with which items they bind.

[Freeman]

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it works fine on rogues, *** are you talking about.

Well, technically he's right. I tried it on a Halfling rogue that happened to be walking by, and the ritual didn't do a single thing to him. Those chomping teeth looked like they hurt though, but as far as I could tell, his base AC didn't get any bonus. Maybe if I'd tried it on his armor instead...

[Milolyen]

This further supports the OP. The fact is that the best robes in the game are a dime a dozen. +5 Tower Shields run about 100K plat, and +5 MFP is 400K.

So, this actually boosted the AC of rangers and monks much more than Sword and Board. Because S&B have to be much more conservative with which items they bind.

Actually because of the hound and vod raid you will see the +5 mith tower shields and +5 MFP's, MBP, and Mithral chain shirts dropping. Then also there is the factor that you can only apply one ritual per armor ... when more crafting is released there will be more of a choice and not everyone will use the ac ritual.

Milolyen