Was there a need for the armor AC ritual?

[artvan_delet]

I can understand adding a +1 AC to shields, to give a boost to sword and board players who have fallen behind TWF. I don't understand why the +1 AC ritual was made available for armor, because everyone can add that it doesnt seem to do much except inflate AC across the board. Not to mention that getting vials of water and prayer beads is 50x easier than getting 2 khyber tomes and 6 silver flame hymnals for the shield ritual.

Just wondering if someone has some -insight- here. Thanks.

[Angelus_dead]

Maybe the partial goal is to remove armor items from the economy, by creating an incentive for players to bind their +5 mith fps to themselves, in exchange for higher AC. That prevents them from later selling it to a new level 8 character once he's looted a better item.

[Thrudh]

Maybe the partial goal is to remove armor items from the economy, by creating an incentive for players to bind their +5 mith fps to themselves, in exchange for higher AC. That prevents them from later selling it to a new level 8 character once he's looted a better item.

Good point... MY +5 MFP is now bound....

[Depravity]

Maybe the partial goal is to remove armor items from the economy, by creating an incentive for players to bind their +5 mith fps to themselves, in exchange for higher AC. That prevents them from later selling it to a new level 8 character once he's looted a better item.

I'm specifically avoiding doing the ritual on my one and only plain vanilla +5 mithral, and saving it for better suits at later levels. Already saw that and avoided it.

[HumanJHawkins]

I'm specifically avoiding doing the ritual on my one and only plain vanilla +5 mithral, and saving it for better suits at later levels. Already saw that and avoided it.

This further supports the OP. The fact is that the best robes in the game are a dime a dozen. +5 Tower Shields run about 100K plat, and +5 MFP is 400K.

So, this actually boosted the AC of rangers and monks much more than Sword and Board. Because S&B have to be much more conservative with which items they bind.

[Milolyen]

This further supports the OP. The fact is that the best robes in the game are a dime a dozen. +5 Tower Shields run about 100K plat, and +5 MFP is 400K.

So, this actually boosted the AC of rangers and monks much more than Sword and Board. Because S&B have to be much more conservative with which items they bind.

Actually because of the hound and vod raid you will see the +5 mith tower shields and +5 MFP's, MBP, and Mithral chain shirts dropping. Then also there is the factor that you can only apply one ritual per armor ... when more crafting is released there will be more of a choice and not everyone will use the ac ritual.

Milolyen

[MageLL]

Maybe the partial goal is to remove armor items from the economy, by creating an incentive for players to bind their +5 mith fps to themselves, in exchange for higher AC. That prevents them from later selling it to a new level 8 character once he's looted a better item.

This makes perfect sense. +5 Mith FP, Chain, and Breastplates are dropping in VoD and Hound. I noticed a ton of +5 mith items on the AH as people started getting their raid armor. If people start attuning the ones hitting the market they will be much harder to come by until you can actually do the raid.

[BrianTheHun]

Does the AC ritual work on other items, such as AC bracers, or is it only good for armor and robes?

[Velorn]

Freebee performed the armor ritual on his FP of the Defender because it was already bound. So I figured...why not. Unfortunately he performed the same ritual on his +5 MFP just 2 weeks prior to getting the vision FP.

[EKKM]

Does the AC ritual work on other items, such as AC bracers, or is it only good for armor and robes?

It only works on armour and sheilds. There is a jewellery ritual which would add a +1 saving throw bonus to jewellery (which includes bracers)

[BrianTheHun]

It only works on armour and sheilds. There is a jewellery ritual which would add a +1 saving throw bonus to jewellery (which includes bracers)

Ok, thank you. I already have the resistance ritual on my shroud goggles, I was just hoping to improve my AC bracers.

[Lewcipher]

It only works on armour and sheilds. There is a jewellery ritual which would add a +1 saving throw bonus to jewellery (which includes bracers)

No sir, this ritual works on robes as well.

[Thrudh]

I can understand adding a +1 AC to shields, to give a boost to sword and board players who have fallen behind TWF. I don't understand why the +1 AC ritual was made available for armor, because everyone can add that it doesnt seem to do much except inflate AC across the board. Not to mention that getting vials of water and prayer beads is 50x easier than getting 2 khyber tomes and 6 silver flame hymnals for the shield ritual.

Just wondering if someone has some -insight- here. Thanks.

It would have made more sense if it didn't work on robes

[Samadhi]

I can understand adding a +1 AC to shields, to give a boost to sword and board players who have fallen behind TWF. I don't understand why the +1 AC ritual was made available for armor, because everyone can add that it doesnt seem to do much except inflate AC across the board. Not to mention that getting vials of water and prayer beads is 50x easier than getting 2 khyber tomes and 6 silver flame hymnals for the shield ritual.

Just wondering if someone has some -insight- here. Thanks.

I thought the two stacked... or am I wrong...

[adamkatt]

I thought the two stacked... or am I wrong...

Shield and armor rit stack.

[Thrudh]

I thought the two stacked... or am I wrong...

They do, but the point is... since it works on armor and robes/oufits.... EVERYONE'S AC went up by one point....

Shield AC boost only helps Sword and Board types (and for some reason, is much harder to get)

[Dariuss]

They do, but the point is... since it works on armor and robes/oufits.... EVERYONE'S AC went up by one point....

yeah but only at end-game (i'm assuming people aren't doing this on their mid-level armors anyway, seems a bit of a pain when you only have it for a couple levels)

and end-game AC is out-of-whack enough that the +1 isn't going to hurt

[artvan_delet]

the rituals definitely stack with each other and with other items (e.g. chattering ring, greensteel AC upgrades). True that the rituals do take items off the market, but the best armor suits out there imo are already bound (fullplate of the defender and breastplate of destruction-too bad it's so ugly).

Find me a ritual that lets us change our armor color, then we're talking.

[Vizzini]

Do you know if you can use the armor ritual on the Icy Rainments? Would be worth it to me there since it's already bound anyhow.

I have a feeling though that named items can't be ritualized (which is a shame)

the rituals definitely stack with each other and with other items (e.g. chattering ring, greensteel AC upgrades). True that the rituals do take items off the market, but the best armor suits out there imo are already bound (fullplate of the defender and breastplate of destruction-too bad it's so ugly).

Find me a ritual that lets us change our armor color, then we're talking.

[Daedalis]

I thought the two stacked... or am I wrong...

They should stack, the one for Armor adds a Dodge bonus, not sure about the shield bonus though.