Rise of the Phoenix

[Maegin]

Worth it? (assuming you dont have UMD)

Discuss.

[feynman]

Worth it? (assuming you dont have UMD)

Discuss.

If we had anything else to spend the AP on, it would not be worth it. As it is, what else have you got?

[hu-flung-pu]

Depending on your race, a lot.

I'm having trouble keeping up with all the enhancements I need at mid levels.


How much Ki, and health does it cost for rise of the phoenix by the way?

[Riekan]

I'm not sure on the amount of health it takes, but I think I remember reading in another post that it takes 50 Ki. People were talking about meditating before using it to get their Ki high enough to use it.

[Hraust]

Totally worth it. I use it all the time, even at 16th.

Here is my write-up:
http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php...t=Rise+Phoenix

It takes 50 Ki to activate...I've never paid much attention to the health cost.

[Lifespawn]

not worth it atall with shroud double pos giving full rez waste of ap's

[MrCow]

I use it all the time, even at 16th.

If you have to use it that much I think thats a bad sign...

[Angelus_dead]

Depending on your race, a lot.

I'm having trouble keeping up with all the enhancements I need at mid levels.

Right, there are many good racial enhancements monks would want:

Warforged:
6 AP Constitution
6 AP Power Attack
12 AP Trip/Stun
12 AP Healer's Friend

Halfling:
6 AP Dexerity
20 AP Guile
18 AP Luck

At low level you really can't afford the AP, and you can just run them to shrines anyhow.
At high level you still can't really afford the AP, and many characters can cast Raise Dead, use Raise Dead scrolls, or carry Raise Dead clickies. Plus you can still run them to shrines anyhow.

[Kaboth]

Doesnt rise of the phoenix take 10 AP to gain all together? That seems a little pricey for a raise dead ability. Still a nice ability but seem steep.

[Maegin]

Right, there are many good racial enhancements monks would want:

Warforged:
6 AP Constitution
6 AP Power Attack
12 AP Trip/Stun
12 AP Healer's Friend

Halfling:
6 AP Dexerity
20 AP Guile
18 AP Luck

At low level you really can't afford the AP, and you can just run them to shrines anyhow.
At high level you still can't really afford the AP, and many characters can cast Raise Dead, use Raise Dead scrolls, or carry Raise Dead clickies. Plus you can still run them to shrines anyhow.

Yup, and now monks can without having to dip into everything and stay true to a monk. especially if your human and dont have anything else to spend the ap on. But, I think thats the humans advantage ap wise, freedom, but they are not powergame/easy buttons (i.e. dorf/half/wf). kewl ty. Besides, who complains about rez? If they gave monks the heal spell (as a spell-like abilty) that costs a lot to get, would people still knock it? I bet so.

[Hraust]

Doesnt rise of the phoenix take 10 AP to gain all together? That seems a little pricey for a raise dead ability. Still a nice ability but seem steep.

Rise of the Phoenix takes 18 Action Points to get. That is, of course, assuming you have the correct base attributes to qualify for it.

[Lifespawn]

Yup, and now monks can without having to dip into everything and stay true to a monk. especially if your human and dont have anything else to spend the ap on. But, I think thats the humans advantage ap wise, freedom, but they are not powergame/easy buttons (i.e. dorf/half/wf). kewl ty. Besides, who complains about rez? If they gave monks the heal spell (as a spell-like abilty) that costs a lot to get, would people still knock it? I bet so.

you asked if we thought it was worth it don't ask for opinions if you don't want them...the majority of people say no so theres your answer

[Maegin]

you asked if we thought it was worth it don't ask for opinions if you don't want them...the majority of people say no so theres your answer

Never said I didnt want ppls opinons, otherwise I wouldnt have made this post. And I said ty for all the imput now knowing other healthy players point of views. Easy now, cowboy. Simmah down nah...

[Kaboth]

There very simple answer is that you can get res clickies or maybe even scrolls to UMD to raise dead someone rather than waste (In my opinion its a waste) at least 10 to 12 AP's to get a raise dead.

Does that mean it's useless? Certainly not! I am sure it would come in handy, but like I said the conditions that meet were you would use it, to me anyway, would far and inbetween.