anyone feel like you have a shadow?

[jkm]

it seems more and more i have someone following me from stunned mob to stunned mob . i mean even if i hit the rogues opponent with unbalancing strike he'll still leave his guy to start whacking on my stunned mob.

[Ghoste]

Someone playing with strategy?!! Gasp!

Stunned monsters can be killed quicker. The quicker that monsters are picked off, the less damage they, as a group, can do to the party. 5 monsters at 50% health do more damage than 3 at 90%.

The mentality that each player should pick their own monster to fight is counter to greater efficiency. Except when the monsters have so few hit points that substantial ammount of time will be wasted swinging weapons at empty air because the target is already dead.

This is one of many reasons that focussing on kill count numbers is detrimental to better group play.

[Impaqt]

it seems more and more i have someone following me from stunned mob to stunned mob . i mean even if i hit the rogues opponent with unbalancing strike he'll still leave his guy to start whacking on my stunned mob.

Well, why did you go hit His mob with Unbalancing strike?

Does the Rogue even Know what Unbalancing strike is?

Regardless, Stunned mob = AUto Crit = Auto Sneak attack. Yes, the rogue is going to steal your kill.....

I expect Rogues to Lead in Kill Count in any group I'm in. Its a Sure sign they are doing their job.. Taking every advantage possible.. THis includes Jumping on Stunned/Autocrit Mobs like crazy. Sign of a GOod rogue if ya ask me.

[Sargoth]

Well, why did you go hit His mob with Unbalancing strike?

Does the Rogue even Know what Unbalancing strike is?

Regardless, Stunned mob = AUto Crit = Auto Sneak attack. Yes, the rogue is going to steal your kill.....

I expect Rogues to Lead in Kill Count in any group I'm in. Its a Sure sign they are doing their job.. Taking every advantage possible.. THis includes Jumping on Stunned/Autocrit Mobs like crazy. Sign of a GOod rogue if ya ask me.

QFT

[Mhykke]

Real fun to run over to someone's mob they just stunned when on my paladin and hit w/ the exalted smite. 1 swing and dead.

[llevenbaxx]

My dex based rogue always shadows another character. Be it monk, ftr or my personal favorite, barbarians. This is a sign that the people you run with know what theyre doing and likily appreciate what youre doing. Be happy, kill count means nothing, success or fail means everything.

[Maegin]

it seems more and more i have someone following me from stunned mob to stunned mob . i mean even if i hit the rogues opponent with unbalancing strike he'll still leave his guy to start whacking on my stunned mob.

Monk being my 2nd fav class, I've started to notice this too. Sometimes, I feel your pain on this, but most of the time, think of it like your bumping the partys overall dps up and saving the caster(s) sp from casting hold monster and the likes. After all the **** monks got, its good to see that we can bring something awesome like this to the table for the party. I mean, who doesn't like a free crit? Crits don't happen very often, but for monks it's an everyday thing (assuming your built for stunning fists), and the funny thing is, its basically free for us as opposed to swinging 7-8+ times or having to burn sp. I'm not sure in saying this, but monks don't have the best dps usually, so let the other players shine!

...But in the back of your head, you know who's really responsible for those kills. Be humble and remained centered fellow monk

[Rameses]

I find it humorous when the BIG BAD Fighter/Paladin/Barbarian that brags about all the ew-bur lewted weapons he's got and he's riding my coat tails through a quest to attack stunned mobs.

Who said "tactics" were dead? I think the player base just got lazy.

I am, Rameses!

[DelScorcho]

What you gotta do is use abundant step to rapidly jump away from the rogue, kill your mob, and then laugh at the rogue as he is too late to steal your kill.

[binnsr]

. Sign of a GOod rogue if ya ask me.

what is this 'good' rogue of which you speak?

[jkm]

my little monk is level 11, so no abundant step yet.

my biggest issue with my shadow is not that they are stealing kills, it is that they are stealing ki. i need at least 3 hits on that stunned mob to replace my ki from the stunning fist to move to the next mob. as for the rogue, he is actually in my dedicated group - he does it on purpose.

as for other party members, i'd say more than 1/2 don't stop to think about why they get to say "man, i got 3 crits in a row!".

so yesterday in one of our crucible runs i skipped the fight before the underwater part, took the haste, kicked in water stance and went and got the horn. i was waiting on the side gate for them to kill the last displaced mage.

[Maegin]

I find it humorous when the BIG BAD Fighter/Paladin/Barbarian that brags about all the ew-bur lewted weapons he's got and he's riding my coat tails through a quest to attack stunned mobs.

Who said "tactics" were dead? I think the player base just got lazy.

I am, Rameses!

qft

[Krell]

it seems more and more i have someone following me from stunned mob to stunned mob . i mean even if i hit the rogues opponent with unbalancing strike he'll still leave his guy to start whacking on my stunned mob.

Thats what a good rogue should be doing, waiting for people to get aggro and dropping in for sneak attack damage and going for every stunned and held mob like a heat seeking missle. The alternative is not doing as much damage as they could be which doesn't help the party.

[Angelus_dead]

my biggest issue with my shadow is not that they are stealing kills, it is that they are stealing ki. i need at least 3 hits on that stunned mob to replace my ki from the stunning fist to move to the next mob. as for the rogue, he is actually in my dedicated group - he does it on purpose.

Right, the stunned mob is doomed- it's not going to survive the monk pounding on it. Normally, the time the rogue spent running from his previous target to steal the kill on the stunned creature would have been better spent continuing his DPS on the previous target. That is doubly true if he had aggro, and has now pulled the creature across the room and away from anyone else fighting it.

However, if you're in Fire stance then stealing Ki is probably of no concern to you.

[MrCow]

Regardless of what character I play, unless I have a good reason to refrain I will make a bee-line when I see a monster get stunned or held. Its just years of habit that thinning the crowd tends to make things easier in the end.

[winsom]

Real fun to run over to someone's mob they just stunned when on my paladin and hit w/ the exalted smite. 1 swing and dead.

Keep in mind that it costs a monk 15 ki to use stunning fist and he might only be getting back 3 or 4 ki on his hits against a stunned mob. If someone consistantly kills the stunned mob before the monk can get a few hits in, then the stunning will stop for awhile. I think its definately good to help the monk out against dangerous monsters, but if people switch to easy mobs because they can do 2-hit kills then they should realize they are diminishing the monk's ability to continue setting up the easy-kills.

[Jay203]

lol, next time party with Tact and i'll leave you with plenty of stunned mobs =D
i mean, that's what i built him for =P stunning, sapping, and tripping xD

[Rameses]

Keep in mind that it costs a monk 15 ki to use stunning fist and he might only be getting back 3 or 4 ki on his hits against a stunned mob. If someone consistantly kills the stunned mob before the monk can get a few hits in, then the stunning will stop for awhile. I think its definately good to help the monk out against dangerous monsters, but if people switch to easy mobs because they can do 2-hit kills then they should realize they are diminishing the monk's ability to continue setting up the easy-kills.

This is why Way of the Elegant Crane is so much superior for a "tactic" Monk.
You recieve upto 4 Ki per strike against a stunned mob.

I am, Rameses!

[binnsr]

Keep in mind that it costs a monk 15 ki to use stunning fist and he might only be getting back 3 or 4 ki on his hits against a stunned mob. If someone consistantly kills the stunned mob before the monk can get a few hits in, then the stunning will stop for awhile. I think its definately good to help the monk out against dangerous monsters, but if people switch to easy mobs because they can do 2-hit kills then they should realize they are diminishing the monk's ability to continue setting up the easy-kills.

but stunning blow doesn't cost any Ki

[Borror0]

Real fun to run over to someone's mob they just stunned when on my paladin and hit w/ the exalted smite. 1 swing and dead.

Heh, your paladin finally shows up on the kill count.