Paladin Healer

[Netjack]

Is it possible? To be a some what decent healer? I actually enjoy healing people, its like a game to me, trying to keep the little red line of your friend before it runs out. When it runs out you lose. You win for anything else.

Anyway, Paladin healer? or a really stupid idea?

If so, how would you do it.

[LewsTherin]

If you like to heal why not make a Cleric? Not trying to to be mean, just curious.

[elraido]

Mine does a fairly decent job of healing in a pinch to give the cleric some rest or save mana.

[Netjack]

If you like to heal why not make a Cleric? Not trying to to be mean, just curious.

Because then I wouldn't be a paladin.

[juniorpfactors]

yes it can be done, a build with hafling dragon marks, 2 levels of rouge for max umd ... you can easily get a 40 umd

jrp

[Borror0]

Because then I wouldn't be a paladin.

And why do you want to be a paladin?

[Blazer]

And why do you want to be a paladin?

So he can be a healer. Duh Borror0.

[Artierius]

Netjack,

Are you looking to be a straight Pally, or would you mind multi-classing...? (Whats the Min pally levels you are looking for)

Also do you have 32pt build or am I looking at a Drow maybe or just a 28pt build..?

Is +1 tomes out of the question or are you good there...?

Are looking S&B here for armor and weapons....or ThF....or maybe even TwF..?

[Borror0]

So he can be a healer. Duh Borror0.

Oh... right!!

[Vagabond]

Halfling dragonmark paladin with /wiz 5 or /sorcerer 1 and rogue /1. Wand, dragonmark, and spell are all on different cooldowns so you actually can do interesting things. Wizard gives you more feats (very, very important) and a higher bonus to your wands/scrolls. Sorcerer would give you a big mana boost for one level, but you probably need the feats. Rogue is for UMD. I originally typed bard in here somewhere but I've been up 24 hours. >.>

You need at least paladin 10 so you get devotion IV.

It's niche. It's a pet project.

[Samadhi]

I have a fully healing spec'd Halfling Dragon-Marked Paladin. It's not worth it. If you solo a lot, it's really cool. Otherwise, though, the amount of dedication you need to put into it is too high for the benefit. Sure, is it cool that my build is perfect for stone running on Dog? Yes. But otherwise, I would have been better off putting all those feats into more toughnesses or more offense or more AC. The coolness just not outweigh what you are losing.

[Alcides]

Lay On Hands calculation = (Paladin Level + 10) * Charisma Modifier
At level 16 you get the following amounts of HPs
20 Cha = 130
22 Cha = 156
24 Cha = 182
26 Cha = 208
28 Cha = 234
30 Cha = 260 ...

You can get 5 Greater Dragonmarks of healing that do the following
Normal = 150 Hps
Paladin Devotion 4 = 210 Hps
Paladin Devotion 4 + Superior Devotion 6 Item = 285 Hps

You need a 40 UMD to use a Heal Scroll (120 hps) and Mass Cure Moderate Wounds Scrolls. Might have to drop a level of rogue to make this option viable.

[Netjack]

Netjack,

Are you looking to be a straight Pally, or would you mind multi-classing...? (Whats the Min pally levels you are looking for)

Also do you have 32pt build or am I looking at a Drow maybe or just a 28pt build..?

Is +1 tomes out of the question or are you good there...?

Are looking S&B here for armor and weapons....or ThF....or maybe even TwF..?


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Originally Posted by Blazer View Post
So he can be a healer. Duh Borror0.
Oh... right!!

Multi-classing wouldn't be a problem.

just a 28pt, this is my first time playing after all.
+1 tomes cost money, something I don't have.

Whats a S&B, ThF, I know TwF is two weapon fighting.


Yes, Blazer nailed it on the head

[Borror0]

Yes, Blazer nailed it on the head

I ask because going mainly cleric would make you a much better "tank that heals" than going paladin...

[Borror0]

Whats a S&B, ThF, I know TwF is two weapon fighting.

S&B is Sword & Board, or one-handed weapon and a shield if you prefer.
ThF is Two-handed Fighting.

[Vagabond]

14/1/1 pal/wiz/rog would get you SF:UMD and all the dragonmarks and metamagics, while allowing you to have an excellent aura, the ability to rez via lay hands, and cast csw from a spell. Hell, the aura may get you into raids just by itself.

You're also utterly crippled otherwise. The ranger version gets all sorts of things like the TWF line, evasion, ram's, manyshot+precise if you go high enough, and enough skill points/level to do rogue things unlike paladins. I think you'd be happier with a ranger variant.

[Vizzini]

It can be done, I have a spashed Paladin Healbot. 14 Paladin, 2 Fighter and he is one of my favortie characters to play. I go Kopesh and Board, and rely mostly on Dragonmarks for heals and conserve my spellpoints for Virtue and other self buffs where needed.

Dragonmarks can be metamagiced for free with the current configuratio, so I've got a Sup Devotion 6 Scepter and Empower Heal on at all times. 14 Paladin means I get access to Restoration, Deathward, and More importantly Holy Sword Spells (<--- Great for Beating on Ak), Combine that with awesome new rechargable smites enhanced with action points and you've got a very well balanced character.

He does what Paladins do best which is survive. I also picked up Sorrel for him at level 12, very handy shield for keeping your AC at a decent amount since you'll probably have a lot of spots tied up with necessary gear.


Ah yes I also put most of my skill points into UMD since I've already got a pretty high charisma, you can easily use heal scrolls and or any other healing implements you might need. Most of all don't let people bully you into chosing a cleric if you want to heal, both are good and fun to play. My main attraction to making the Paladin was so I could be a healer in disguise. I didn't want the stigma of HAVING to heal the party if I didn't want to. It's nice when you can just be responsible for yourself!

[Vizzini]

Your forgetting about spell crits, I've had my Greater Dragonmarks often hit for around 385 I believe.

Lay On Hands calculation = (Paladin Level + 10) * Charisma Modifier
At level 16 you get the following amounts of HPs
20 Cha = 130
22 Cha = 156
24 Cha = 182
26 Cha = 208
28 Cha = 234
30 Cha = 260 ...

You can get 5 Greater Dragonmarks of healing that do the following
Normal = 150 Hps
Paladin Devotion 4 = 210 Hps
Paladin Devotion 4 + Superior Devotion 6 Item = 285 Hps

You need a 40 UMD to use a Heal Scroll (120 hps) and Mass Cure Moderate Wounds Scrolls. Might have to drop a level of rogue to make this option viable.

Also, I wouldn't worry about it being a 28point build honestly. So is mine, and he's just fine. Besides you can pretty much count on the fact that your going to be pulling some +2 or 3 tomes somewhere down the line which would mean you don't have to waste your time grinding out 1750 favor to have the character your looking for.

Multi-classing wouldn't be a problem.

just a 28pt, this is my first time playing after all.
+1 tomes cost money, something I don't have.

Whats a S&B, ThF, I know TwF is two weapon fighting.

Yes, Blazer nailed it on the head

[Ironforge_Clan]

Okay I guess it is time to throw something else into the mix and only because by my dumb stubborn-ness I've continued down this path. My character Gooddoer is a 9/3/2 Pali,Cleric, Fighter with sights on filling out the rest of his level (to current cap) as cleric. I should note that he is a 28pt dwarven build and not a min/max character, limited tome investment, and no raid gear as of yet.

He has decent, but not great melee abilities although I'm not sure how he will do in Shroud, Hound, or VoD. His healing is okay having cure moderate as a spell and loh. Where he really shines is that he is able to help buff party members, has the ability to raise dead (Pali ability that use loh) and has 15 dvs available. Right now his chance to use a raise dead scroll is around 25% unbuffed not sure on a heal scroll though, but with more Cleric levels that will definitely be improving.

I would classify him as a pure utility build for party support. So it can be done just depends on what sacrifices you are willing to make and what others are willing to accept. My advice play what you like...gimped or not don't worry about anything else.

[Mhykke]

Because then I wouldn't be a paladin.

To be blunt, this is no reason.


You can say I want to heal people as a barbarian, and when someone points out why not just make a cleric, then you reply with "well then I wouldn't be a barbarian."

You want to create a character just to have that paladin symbol next to his name? That doesn't make any sense.

If you want to make a character to heal people as its goal, don't make a paladin just to make one.

Otherwise, it will just be a weak character that can't heal as well as other classes and takes up a party slot better filled by other classes.