Another intimitankish build, feedback/help?

[Rakezi]

I rolled a somewhat gimped intimitank way back in the day. Thing i think he really lacks in is the ability to bust out the DPS if needed.

Been thinking about a build that incorporates AC, intimidating, Dwarven Axes, ability to TWF w/full line of TWF feats, HP and decent saves.

I got the 3 +2 tomes, just need an int tome before i pick up CE.

Any feedback would be appreciated before i start up on this one:

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Rakeezi RFP 
Level 16 Lawful Good Dwarf Male
(8 Fighter \ 2 Paladin \ 6 Ranger) 
Hit Points: 330
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 16\16\21\26\26
Fortitude: 19
Reflex: 12
Will: 5

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(32 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 16)
Strength             16                    24
Dexterity            15                    18
Constitution         15                    18
Intelligence         12                    13
Wisdom                8                     8
Charisma             11                    12

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 2
+1 Tome of Charisma used at level 2
+1 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 16)
Balance               4                    16
Bluff                 0                     1
Concentration         2                     4
Diplomacy             0                     1
Disable Device        n/a                   n/a
Haggle                0                     1
Heal                 -1                    -1
Hide                  2                     4
Intimidate            2                    28
Jump                  7                    26
Listen               -1                    -1
Move Silently         2                     4
Open Lock             n/a                   n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                1                     1
Search                5                     7
Spot                  3                    10
Swim                  7                    14
Tumble                4                     8
Use Magic Device      n/a                   n/a

Notable Equipment
Armor: +5 Mithral Full Plate of  
Ring: Dextrous Ring of  
Necklace: Health Necklace of  
Trinket: Head of Good Fortune
Cloak: Charismatic Cloak of  
Belt: Belt of Greater False Life 
Bracers: Chaosguarde

Level 1 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Giant
Feat: (Selected) Toughness


Level 2 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Dodge


Level 3 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Mobility
Feat: (Selected) Skill Focus: Intimidate


Level 4 (Ranger)


Level 5 (Ranger)


Level 6 (Ranger)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack


Level 7 (Ranger)
Feat: (Favored Enemy) Favored Enemy: Evil Outsider


Level 8 (Ranger)


Level 9 (Paladin)
Feat: (Selected) Oversized Two Weapon Fighting


Level 10 (Paladin)


Level 11 (Fighter)


Level 12 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Greater Two Weapon Fighting
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons


Level 13 (Fighter)


Level 14 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Combat Expertise


Level 15 (Fighter)
Feat: (Selected) Bullheaded


Level 16 (Fighter)
Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost I
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost II
Enhancement: Fighter Haste Boost III
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Dwarven Armor Mastery II
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack I
Enhancement: Dwarven Axe Attack II
Enhancement: Dwarven Constitution I
Enhancement: Dwarven Spell Defense I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness I
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness II
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness III
Enhancement: Dwarven Toughness IV
Enhancement: Fighter Armor Mastery I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy I
Enhancement: Fighter Critical Accuracy II
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense I
Enhancement: Fighter Item Defense II
Enhancement: Ranger Favored Defense I
Enhancement: Ranger Tempest I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate I
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate II
Enhancement: Fighter Intimidate III
Enhancement: Ranger Dexterity I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength I
Enhancement: Fighter Strength II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness I
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness II
Enhancement: Fighter Toughness III

This could be totally wrong... This first time i done one of these, but i think they are right.



Hit Points:
148 Base
112 Con
30 Greater False Life
20 Heroic Durability
18 Toughness
10 Favor
50 Dwarven Toughness Enhancements
30 Fighter Toughness
45 Greensteel HP Item
-----
463

Intimidate:
19 Ranks
2 Bullheaded
3 Focus Int
3 Fighter Intimidate
2 Head of Good fortune
4 Greater Hero
4 Charisma
13 Item
----
50(54 w/greensteel)

Attack
16 BaB
10 Strength
5 weapon
2 axe enhancement
4 greater hero
-2 TWF
------
38(33 w/PA,CE)


AC:
10 Base
13 Armor
6 Dex(7 possible w/3 dex tome)
5 Protection
3 Barkskin Pot(5 w/ranger barkskin)
3 Dodge(feat/chaosgarde)
2 Tempest
1 Haste
1 Aura of Good
----
44 TWF +4 stupid shield clicky
54/56 Shield(+9 Mith TS) & CE

+4 Giant
+5 Combat Expertise
+1 Undead/Evil Outsider
+4 Insight
+2 high lvl barkskin

+3 Chattering ring
+4 Paladin w/Bulwark IV
+4 Heroics Song


Saves: (Fort/Reflex/Will)
+18/+12/+5
+6/+6/+6 (Item and Head of Good Luck)
+0/+0/+1 (Bullheaded)
+4/+4/+4 (Charisma Bonus from Divine Grace)
+1/+1/+1 (Bulwurk Enhancement Bonus)
+4/+4/+4 (Self Buffed GH)
------------------
+33/+27/+21 (Item/GH)

For eq, was figuring, until raid loot rolls in

Armor: +5 Mithral Full Plate
Trinket: Head of Good Fortune
Cloak: +6 Charisma
Belt: Belt of Greater False Life
Bracers: Chaosguarde
Ring: +5 Protection
Ring: +6 Constitution
Gloves: +6 Str
Head: 13 intimidate
Boots: Madstone, +4 dex

[DaveyCrockett]

Alternative:

+20/+20/+14
+6/+6/+6 (Item and Head of Good Luck)
+4/+4/+4 (Self Buffed GH)
30/30/24 - Better Saves

AC:
10 Base
06 White Dragon Robe
09 DEX
06 WIS
05 Protection
05 Barkskin (Self-Cast)
03 Dodge(feat/chaosgarde)
02 Tempest
01 Haste
--
47 TWF +4 stupid shield clicky - Better AC (+4 if you get Icy Rainment/+8 Armored Bracers)

04 Giant
05 Combat Expertise
02 Undead/Evil Outsider/Giant
04 Insight
03 Chattering ring
05 Paladin w/Bulwark V
04 Heroics Song

Intimidate:
19 Ranks
02 Bullheaded
03 Focus Int
01 Fighter Intimidate
02 Head of Good fortune
04 Greater Hero
01 Charisma
15 Item
----
47(53 w/greensteel) - Competitive Intimidate


And about 50 less hitpoints by going 2 Monk/2 Fighter/12 Ranger

STR 16
DEX 16
CON 12
INT 11
WIS 14
CHA 06

Also you pick up evasion this way, which is just great for someone p***ing the whole room (ie, casters too) off.

Just a thought

[Rakezi]

Ya, that was the other alternative... Would lose all that wisdom AC bonus if he went to using a shield i believe though yes?

Not up on all the monk stuff, was trying to look up all that other night when trying to figure the options out.

[DaveyCrockett]

Ya, that was the other alternative... Would lose all that wisdom AC bonus if he went to using a shield i believe though yes?

Not up on all the monk stuff, was trying to look up all that other night when trying to figure the options out.

Yup, when using a shield, you would lose the WIS bonus.

Why the hell would you use a shield?

[Rakezi]

Would he end up with the feats to get iron will still w/o the 4 free fighter feats? GTWF is a wash, so 3 lost. Toughness, iron will, imp crit slash lost?

[Rakezi]

Well, the option for DR, more AC. Situational use, thinking quests like VOD.

[DaveyCrockett]

Would he end up with the feats to get iron will still w/o the 4 free fighter feats? GTWF is a wash, so 3 lost. Toughness, iron will, imp crit slash lost?

He could take:

1 (F) Bullheaded | Dodge
2 (R)
3 (R) Toughness
4 (M) Mobility
5 (M) Combat Expertise
6 (F) SF: UMD | Spring Attack
7 (R)
8 (R)
9 (R) IC: Slashing
10 (R)
11 (R)
12 (R) Oversized Two-Weapon Fighting
13 (R)
14 (R)
15 (R) Power Attack
16 (R)

No Iron Will, not needed.

[Rakezi]

Really do like the idea of the monk based build, just that grind for the white dragon robe that sucks lol(and then once ya get it the rain,ent grind heh)...

Does have a lack of DR(but i guess, would only be losing like 11 DR if using a madstone as he prob wouldn't go with all the shield mastery/DR enhancements/feats), and less hp for raidy type intimtank tanking.

I really like the idea of the intimitank and how helpful it can be in groups. But i really miss the lack of DPS on mine for when it's just not necessary to be the intimitank, or when the high AC isn't needed as much

Another favored enemy is nice too in this version

[Rakezi]

Weird, don't see any other missing feats... The 2 freebies from monk plus the freebie from ranger. Guess i'd only lose out on 3, and it's a wash.

Hrm, intriguing. Would take quite the grind to get all the equip for him to get to his prime, and until he hits 14 to use the robe he'd have a pretty low AC, or lose the dodge bonus from chaosgarde?

Thanx

And ya, i'd meant bullheaded, not iron will. Didn't realize it would fit in

[Rakezi]

I assume from putting the numbers in that that's with 3 str lvl ups and 1 dex? And ya missed out on 1 point, assumed it went into int to get 13 int for CE w/o a 2 int tome

[maddmatt70]

Don't grind for the white dragon robe grind for the icy rainments robe in GOP. Better Ac and better item..

[DaveyCrockett]

Don't grind for the white dragon robe grind for the icy rainments robe in GOP. Better Ac and better item..

People complain when you list Icy Rainment in the AC breakdowns.
So I put White Dragon Robe as an alternative, since there are ALWAYS 25 White Dragon Scales on the AH with a buyout.

Of course you really want the Icy Raiment!

[Gol]

Did Davey just recommend a Dwarven Ranger build?

[Artierius]

I put this up awhile ago on the Pally post.....he's designed to do Dps and use TwF...as well as good Intimidate and hold agro on Boss mobs using Dps / Intim and the Pally skill - Divine Righteousness.

Hav a lok see and maybe you can tweak something to your liking.

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=154508

[Rakezi]

That's a nice build too Art, i'd thought of going a similar route(might have even been after looking at your build as it looks familiar)

The monk based build is really looking nice. I'd thought that shield use would be nice, but splashing the monk kinda negates the benefits gained by the paladin levels. And ya only gaining like 11 DR since i'm not taking the feats/enh for DR. Plus ya gain a bit more, just losing out on the HP and intimidate. Wish there was a way to get that higher w/o going human.

I guess i can deal with missing an intimidate on a 2 or 3, but that's with crazy gear.... Not sure if that'll gimp him too much. Just read that the normal mark is 56 for vod and harry... whoever that is lol. So quite a bit of a gap there. Looks like the max i can get(w/+4 from shroud item.. which i dunno if i could even fit in the build) would be a 52, w/+2 cha tome as well. So would miss 20% of the time on vod... dunno if that would be acceptable. Would have his DPS as well to get agro, but would end up losing him i'd guess.