Loot for you too

[Lewcipher]

Unclassy loot style. I ran a raid, and an un-named individual had a +3 dex tome drop..person says.." I just used one earlier, so I can't use that". Five people asked if they could roll on it. Person said "Will you buy it", and proceeded to have an auction right there. I was dumbfounded.

Yes, your loot is your loot; I understand that. Maybe it's just me, and maybe I'm totally off base. I just thought that was quite tacky. I will remember, and jump in that raid as much as possible with said person. In hopes of looting a +3 tome he/she can use. I will then offer it up for roll to everyone else.

/rant off

I'm gonna let it roll off my back, but I was a little upset at seeing that happen.

[Clay]

i can understand your feelings, its not what i would have done nor would i feed another's greed by bidding...

but I don't think he was so out of line either.

[Ringos]

While I put stuff like that up for a roll myself when in a PUG, it was that person's right to do what they wanted. Can say I'd be mad or upset, but but it would have been nice to put it up for a roll. That's kinda the SOP from what I've seen.

[Lewcipher]

I gathered as much Ringos. I wasn't so much upset, as I was dumbfounded that people actually stayed to bid on it. I left it alone. Figured he could be stuck with it himself.

[scampb]

As I haven't levelled a toon yet to the point where he can run raids to get +3 tomes, I am not sure of the circumstances surrounding this issue. From what I read here and on other posts I gather once you take the tome it is bound? Is that correct? But, the person can allocate the tome to someone else in the group before taking it out of the chest? I am curious before I give my opinion on how I would handle the situation.

[Aspenor]

As I haven't levelled a toon yet to the point where he can run raids to get +3 tomes, I am not sure of the circumstances surrounding this issue. From what I read here and on other posts I gather once you take the tome it is bound? Is that correct? But, the person can allocate the tome to someone else in the group before taking it out of the chest? I am curious before I give my opinion on how I would handle the situation.

you are correct, sir

[Beherit_Baphomar]

It was his to do as he pleased...but auctioning raid loot just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Karma...it'll come getcha...

And Scampb, be careful, Aspenor might be on "Opposite Day" today...you'd think a 30 something
would've grown out of Opposite Day, but sadly thats not the case with Asp.

[scampb]

Well based on the information I have then, I personally don't thing auctioning it off says anything good about his character. I would say there is probably a handful of people that will treat him/her differently going forward. May still run with him again but won't be first in line for any free loot, I am sure of that. For me, first it would go to any quildie in the party that may REQUIRE it. If no guildie, I would offer it up to the party member that it would most help with no expectation of anything in return. If I can't use it and can't sell it for plat on the AH then it might as well go to someone. I can't believe he auctioned it either. Give it to someone in the party that helped you get it. What goes around, comes around.

[scampb]

It was his to do as he pleased...but auctioning raid loot just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Karma...it'll come getcha...

And Scampb, be careful, Aspenor might be on "Opposite Day" today...you'd think a 30 something
would've grown out of Opposite Day, but sadly thats not the case with Asp.

Well, if he is on opposite day today and I could do what I please with the tome then I would obviously keep it and use when I rolled a new toon. Still would not auction it off in party though, very tacky! LOL

[narizue]

Its his choice to do it bro. The loot has his name on it. Much like Clay though I would have walked away and not bid. Tacky beyond belief and definately something that goes against the grain. Its his right to do it, but as my grandmother taught me just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should.

That is the type of azzhattery that I remember when I am filling out raids. Given that it is my right to select who I want.

Just my 2cp.

[Lewcipher]

Its his choice to do it bro. The loot has his name on it. Much like Clay though I would have walked away and not bid. Tacky beyond belief and definately something that goes against the grain. Its his right to do it, but as my grandmother taught me just because you can do something doesn't mean that you should.

That is the type of azzhattery that I remember when I am filling out raids. Given that it is my right to select who I want.

Just my 2cp.

Walk away is exactly what I did. And Narizue, you have a smart grandmother


Scampb, you are correct in the fact that this individual will not be getting anything from me, and I honestly don't know think I can join a group with that person. I couldn't stand to see that happen again.

[Ministry]

It was his to do as he pleased...but auctioning raid loot just leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
Karma...it'll come getcha...

I couldn't agree more.

I give away +2 tomes and vorpals and banishers and smiters and larges to my friends all the time and would never expect anything for it.

To not need a +3 tome and not give it to a friend or put up for roll, insisting on auctioning it off on the spot is just sad and not good for the game or community.

Try being helpful and nice to people and you will see that it comes back to you tenfold.

In my not so humble opinion.

[Deathseeker]

At the risk of being pounded by the forum masses, I'm going to have to disagree with the common sentiment. Ive seen this a couple of times on items, and I actually like it. I can understand how crappy it must be to wait months to pull a +3 tome, only to finally get one and have it be something useless to you. Why not at least enjoy some of the benefit of the plat, and if another is happy to pay a price for it, then it's a win-win for both parties.

If you don't like it (which is understandable) then I think what's suggested below is smart...don't bid. If enough people do that, plus the fact that a lot of people don't carry their whole bank roll each time they go on a raid, then the prices received doing this will stay fairly reasonable or won't be worth the hassle.

And of course there's always the risk of getting ripped off aspect because it isn't a trade window swap...which will also discourage some.

Just my 2cp...

[Lithic]

I gotta agree with deathseeker here. For pug groups at least, if I get a +3 tome I don't need, I'll put it up for auction. Don't like it? Don't buy it. I pulled a +3 con tome on my haggle bard a while back and sold it right there. The guy who got it was happy, I was happy, everyone who mattered was happy!


Now of course if a friend/guildmate was also in the group that would be different, but if its all strangers then either pay up or loot your own tome. I would expect no less from others.

[Deathseeker]

Totally Agreed. If my guildmate did this while I was in the group and I wanted the item, there'd be some rather graphic language in Teamspeak. But that's a seperate issue of course...

I gotta agree with deathseeker here. For pug groups at least, if I get a +3 tome I don't need, I'll put it up for auction. Don't like it? Don't buy it. I pulled a +3 con tome on my haggle bard a while back and sold it right there. The guy who got it was happy, I was happy, everyone who mattered was happy!


Now of course if a friend/guildmate was also in the group that would be different, but if its all strangers then either pay up or loot your own tome. I would expect no less from others.

[Thame]

Ive seen alot of these threads in the past. I cant help but post on them simply put.....

Its their loot. They can do with it as they please. Just becuase they dont do what you would, doesnt make it wrong, tacky, tasteless or stupid. If he wanted to auction it so be it. If you decide to let people roll on yours then fine. Whats wrong IMO is going about it a different way as you said you would do in the future just to be spiteful or vengeful.

[Reisz]

Are you upset that he did not GIVE what was rightfully his? I admit that if it is going to be wasted, it is advantageous to all that you do something with it. But that is his decision to sell, trade, give, or eat it. I personally put most stuff up for roll.

What if he pulled the +3 tome and wanted to trade it for raid loot someone else pulled?

What burns me when someone wont trade raid loot with me, and then expects to roll on my loot.

[Ardanroth]

i have a question thats bugged me for a while, which raids does this happen in ?

id like to know so i dont make a blunder and pull something out of the hat that i dont need

[Lewcipher]

Are you upset that he did not GIVE what was rightfully his? I admit that if it is going to be wasted, it is advantageous to all that you do something with it. But that is his decision to sell, trade, give, or eat it. I personally put most stuff up for roll.

What if he pulled the +3 tome and wanted to trade it for raid loot someone else pulled?

What burns me when someone wont trade raid loot with me, and then expects to roll on my loot.

Not really. I just have never seen that before. Mind you I pretty much run raids with friends and guildies. I think I was just more surprised at it. Like I said, I understand the "your loot is your loot" gig. I could never bring myself to do that to people. That's all.

[Galvis]

Can someone please explain to me why what this person did is wrong? I'm not trying to be troll or anything, I just really don't get it. He pulled something that MANY other people want, and he sold it. Why is that any different that pulling a vorpal on your wiz and selling it at AH? Like I said, I'm not trying to troll, but I really don't get it.

If I pulled something like that I would try to trade it straight up for a bloodstone or something that I needed.