Anybody making monk Green Steele weapons?

[MageLL]

If so what and why?

I'm debating on what to make and wondered if you guys/gals made any weapons yet.

I was wanting to get the +4 AC Insight and the dual shard Mineral thing.. but not sure if that is possible on 1 weapon. Kamas seemed gimped damage wise to me, even with GTWF I still use wraps and quaterstaffs at times.

[Desteria]

Already made
Kama:
Holy (pos)
+1 Exceptional Con (earth)
+4 Insite AC (Dule earth/pos)
Mineral 2

Will be making as soon as i get 2 lg scales and a shard of power:
Kama:
Holy (pos)
+1 Exceptional Wis (earth)
+2 Exceptional Wis (dule earht/pos)
Mineral 2

[MageLL]

So you can go like
T1: Positive Dominion Material Holy, +2d6 vs. Evil
T2: Earth Dominion Material Acid Burst, +1d6 acid, +1d10/2d10/3d10 on crit

Then on your dual shard for the Mineral 2 use
Earth Opposition Ethereal +4 AC (Insight) along with whatever positive one?

The 2 other dual shard weapons I made, I was told that the two t3 shards had to be made with the identical properties as t1 and t2 (dominion, opposition, ethereal, ect..)

[Angelus_dead]

Then on your dual shard for the Mineral 2 use
Earth Opposition Ethereal +4 AC (Insight) along with whatever positive one?

The 2 other dual shard weapons I made, I was told that the two t3 shards had to be made with the identical properties as t1 and t2 (dominion, opposition, ethereal, ect..)

Yes, that's how people do it, which would mean you'd use Pos Opp Eth in your case.

[ISMisst]

almost done making a lightning kama for main hand, and either a earthgrab or all pos for offhand

[kirzahn]

monks r still a worthless mana sponge

[Oran_Lathor]

we r so glad you is deciding to share ur mostest worthwhilest of opinions, oh wise and eloquent one!

[feynman]

I have made a staff:

Tier 1: earth: acid
Tier 2: positive: good burst

And as soon as I have a few more larges:

Tier 3: earth/positive: 4 insight AC mineral II


Frankly, I'm spending my larges on my DPS build, and giving my monk a solid all-around weapon. You can eke out a little more DPS from kamas, but at twice the investment in materials, and there will still be times when you will want to use a staff. Unarmed is the least desirable option ATM; two-handed attack speed with one-handed damage, and half the effects are broken.

[Aspenor]

probably won't make a weapon for my monk for a while. for the fiend i have dual transmuting of greater/lawful outsider bane kamas, so I'll just use those and be happy with it.

[Desteria]

monks r still a worthless mana sponge

Considering that that last time my level 14 monk ran Vision of Destruction on Elite, I got hit a grand total of 9 times(counted buy stone skin) by the end of it, and i was in there melleing with all 4 otherons cleavign through me, mana sponges monks do not have to be, they can get VERY meanign full AC to the point that everythign needs nat 20'S to hit, + amaving saves adn improved evasion.

[feynman]

Considering that that last time my level 14 monk ran Vision of Destruction on Elite, I got hit a grand total of 9 times(counted buy stone skin) by the end of it, and i was in there melleing with all 4 otherons cleavign through me, mana sponges monks do not have to be, they can get VERY meanign full AC to the point that everythign needs nat 20'S to hit, + amaving saves adn improved evasion.

I notice you didn't address the "worthless" part...

[Desteria]

I notice you didn't address the "worthless" part...

Ok your right i decided to pick up on the strongest part i disagreeded with.

I don't fell any one can be worth less when they can provide resnable DPS, (haflign monks ROCK with guile 4 they will rarly lose it becasue they wont out damage the twf favored enimy rangers), requier basicaly zero healing, and provide every oen with healing as they beat on stuff (curse of healign from FoL), provide 10% SP savings to all clerics/casters that stacks with spellsong.

They are not a TOP end DPS guy but build em carfully and equip them well and they definetly do not detract, Frankly all our smothest VoD runs have included 1 or 2 monks, that 10% sp savings really rocks, the Fire light fire buf fis nice 2 though i cant do that my self till i eat a +4 tome Mav's monk can

[feynman]

Ok your right i decided to pick up on the strongest part i disagreeded with.

I don't fell any one can be worth less when they can provide resnable DPS, (haflign monks ROCK with guile 4 they will rarly lose it becasue they wont out damage the twf favored enimy rangers), requier basicaly zero healing, and provide every oen with healing as they beat on stuff (curse of healign from FoL), provide 10% SP savings to all clerics/casters that stacks with spellsong.

They are not a TOP end DPS guy but build em carfully and equip them well and they definetly do not detract, Frankly all our smothest VoD runs have included 1 or 2 monks, that 10% sp savings really rocks, the Fire light fire buf fis nice 2 though i cant do that my self till i eat a +4 tome Mav's monk can

My problem with halfling monks is the strength hit; yes, you can make up some with guile and the like, but in many cases this will not suffice. Too many mobs require straight, overwhelming damage, which you also want the extra power attack and strength bonus on a staff for, that you have a hard time using with a low strength.

We will never be high DPS characters, but we can supply steady, consistent damage while we buff and heal, and we are usually the last melee'r needing healing, ourselves. I have also come upon the argument that, with abundant step, we get to the enemy and start attacking faster, meaning more damage from monks

[Ikuryo]

So you can go like
T1: Positive Dominion Material Holy, +2d6 vs. Evil
T2: Earth Dominion Material Acid Burst, +1d6 acid, +1d10/2d10/3d10 on crit

Then on your dual shard for the Mineral 2 use
Earth Opposition Ethereal +4 AC (Insight) along with whatever positive one?

The 2 other dual shard weapons I made, I was told that the two t3 shards had to be made with the identical properties as t1 and t2 (dominion, opposition, ethereal, ect..)

You are slightly mistaken about dual shard weapons. The dual shard need to be the same as the effect gained from the t1 and t2 shards. If you go positive and earth you get mineral so your dual shard needs to be a mineral shard to get the full effect. To get the T3 shards to combine they need to be of the same types, opposition+ethereal, Escalation+Material, and so on. So for mineral it would be Positive opposition+ethereal and Earth opposition+ethereal to get the +4 AC bonus. The gem and essence type for T3 do NOT need to be the same as the ones for T1 and T2.

You can do T1 = Earth+Escalation+Material, T2 = Positive+Opposition+Material, T3 = Earth+Opposition+Ethereal, Positive+Opposition+Ethereal

and make a +6 Constitution, +20% Healing Amplification, +4 AC (Insight Bonus) Weapon. Or any other combination that you can think of as long as the 2 T3 shards are made using matching Gems and Essences.

[Theboz]

on my High AC buiild

Mineral 2
+6 con, good burst, +4 AC

Lightening 2
Shock, goodbust, and +2 dex insight

With this combo I free up a spot for other items,

I gain +1 to my To hit

I gain +5 AC

Made these on his 3rd trip into the shroud