How do "Fire Greaves" stack?

[Wizzly_Bear]

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[Wizzly_Bear]

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[Blazer]

Love to help ya out here W_B, but sadly, I don't have a set to test. Guildie of mine does, I can ask him how they work. I seem to recall a thread that discussed this a while back, but I'm old and could be mistaken.

[Lithic]

no takers yet?

how about damage done by lava? if i had a constant number of fire damage then i could test it myself.

shallow lava (walking animation) does 4d6 per 2 seconds

deep lava (swimming animation) does 20d6 per 2 seconds, or every time you jump out and in.

as for constant fire damage... just get a caster to throw you some fireballs. They always do pretty close to the same damage. Or an incendiary cloud (maxed/empowered) might give you close to a constant fire source. You'll have to go to one of the pvp arenas though (not the tavern brawl, the places the guy sends you to).

[Lithic]

I can tell you that pro from fire is the first source used up. Any damage you take is reduced by this. Resist will not reduce your damage unless you have a better resist than your protection (say when you have 5pts of fire pro left, with a resist 30, then you would prevent 30pts).

Cold shield and the greaves then reduce the actual damage you would take.

So if you had a 100pt pro, 30pt resist, and cold shield on (-50%), and got hit by a 200pt fireball, you would first wipe out 100pts of your protection, your resistance is ignored, and the cold shiled leaves you with 50pts of fire damage.

As for cold shield and greaves, no idea.

[Wizzly_Bear]

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[DaveyCrockett]

The general rule on what happens when you have an ablative defense (protection from energy, stoneskin) and an absolute defense (resistance to energy, barbarian DR):

The incoming damage is reduced by the _larger_ of you ablative or absolute defense.
The remaining points on the ablative defense are reduced by the smaller of how much was blocked or how much was remaining on the defense.
The remaining portion of the attack, if any, hits any multipliers ("take half damage from fire" kicks in at this point).

So:
1) You have a 120 point protection and a 30 point resist, and get hit with a 100 point fireball. The protection is larger, so it applies; it blocks all 100 points, you take no damage, and you have 20 points remaining on your protection.

2) Now you've got 20 points left on your protection and a 30 point resist, and you get hit with a 100 point fireball. The protection is smaller, so the resistance kicks in and blocks 30 points. The remaining protection is zero (alternately, you can think of it as "the protection stopped 20 points of damage, then the resistance stopped the next 10, if that makes you less confused).

3) If the attack is a type that ignores the protection, it doesn't ding the amount remaining (so adamantine attacks don't reduce your remaining stoneskin, cold attacks don't reduce you remaining protection from fire).

4) If you have more than one relevant ablative protection, only the largest one applies (I don't think it is possible now because I don't think we have any way to have more than one relevant protection for PCs, but imagine if you had protection from fire and protection from ninjas, and a ninja fireballs you.... only one of them will apply).

None of this has changed in a long time.
And yes, we realize it would be much more advantageous to you for the defenses to work in exactly the opposite order.

There's some info

[woodrick]

reading the description on the greaves, as u have now have a pair u did. i seem to recall that they state something along the lines of, absorbing 33% of fire damage taken once all over effects have been taken into account. (it's something like that i think) the descriptions on the items are usually a give away as to their effect
as for stacking with fire shield blue never actually tried them both together. (but one reduces damage taken (FSB) and one absorbs damge taken (greaves) so yeah it is possible that they stack)