Ginseng 2: Centered Sorcerer

[iruka41]

My original Ginseng is a WF 15 Sorcerer / 1 Barbarian for fast zerging.
This build focuses more on survivability.
WF sorcerers are already one of the best self-sufficiant, and I wanted to make it even better while minimizing the penalty.

14 Sorcerer / 2 monk
Warforged, Lawful Neutral

STR 8
DEX 14 ->22
CON 12 ->22~24 (Rage gives +2 CON but also gives -2 AC penalty, so it depends on situation)
INT 13 +1Tome at Level1
WIS 12 ->20
CHA 15 +4LevelUps ->32~34 (Depends on your Green Steel Weapon setting)

I suggest you to make your green steel kama with +1CHA, +4AC.
So if you can find a Sup.Potency Kama then you can use Monk stances to boost your AC/Save by 1, or some more HP.

Feats:
- General: Empower, Maximize, Quicken, Heighten, Extend, Enlarge
- Monk: Lightning Reflex, then choose another among Deflect Arrows, Toughness, Dodge
(If you feel like you have good enough defence, you can have fun with dual-vorp kamas with Weapon Finesse, Precision, TWF)

Skills: Concentration, UMD, Jump(x2), Balance (Raise Balance on Monk levels)

Maxed Saves: (without Rage for maxed AC also)
Base 7/7/12 + Feat 0/2/0 + Stat 6/6/5 + (Resist5, ReaverTrinket, Alchemical) 8/8/8 + (GH, Haste) 4/5/4
= Self-buffed 25/28/29 + Evasion,
30/33/34 with Paladin

Maxed AC:
10 Base + 2 Warforged + 1 Monk + 6 DEX + 5 WIS + 6 Alchemical Docent (Does it work? +_+)
+ 2 Chaosgarde + 3 Chattering Ring + 5 Protection Item + 4 Green Steel Weapon
+ 4 Shield Spell + 1 Haste + 3 Barkskin Potion
= Self-buffed 52 with 2 weapons in hands,
65 with Paladin/Ranger/Cleric/Bard.

Overall, really excels in survivability, also perfect for PvP (if anyone cares)
I think it's kinda overkill in quests, but oh well, my control sucks so it might be helpful

You can tank if you want, (I mean when there's no real tanks in the grp) since you got
1. Not bad AC, Saves, and Evasion.
2. Ability to cast Quickened Reconstruct, Stoneskin, Displacement.
3. Ability to DPS hard enough through Spells to maintain agro.
4. Ability to use the Docent of Defiance! lol

What you lose compared to 16 WF Sorcerer:
1. Couple hundred SP (But obviously less SP to cast Reconstruct due to Evasion/Saves/AC)
2. Final Level Spell (Resolved when level cap goes up to 20, not much 8th spells to use at the moment anyways)
3. Couple lower level spell slots (This is the major penalty that I can think of)
4. -1 to Heightened spell DC (linked with #2, resolved at level 20)

Wise sorcerer never runs outta SP, so I hope this build will do just fine in their hands.

It just came to my mind like 30 minutes ago, so it might contain some flaws.
Hope you guys can help me by some wise comments


P.S. I think you can make a similar build using Halfling, with Healing Dragonmarks.
You might be short on feats, prolly have to give up 3 metamagics: Enlarge, Quicken, and something else,
but you'll end up with +7AC, +4~7 Reflex Save, +1 Spell DC, etc.

[MiniMindy]

looks interesting. Have you tried it yet ? Im willing to give it a try.. wont be hard to lvl up. Didnt have that problem with your Fastest Nuker build. Getting a character slot open will be the hardest thing to do tho.. sigh

Wonder when to take ur lvl of monks tho ?? any ideas Gin ?

[Naso24]

"(GH, Haste) 5/5/5"

I thought haste only added to reflex.

What skills are you planning on taking? UMD, Concentration, ???

If you can get a +2 int tome, I'd suggest dropping INT to 12 and increasing CON by 1. This will give you potential for another 16-20 HP, +1 fort saves with a +3 CON tome.

[MrCow]

Alchemical Docent (Does it work? +_+)

Yes, it does now.

[iruka41]

"(GH, Haste) 5/5/5"

I thought haste only added to reflex.

Ahhh my bad, just figured that out. Will change the OP. Thanks!

What skills are you planning on taking? UMD, Concentration, ???

If you can get a +2 int tome, I'd suggest dropping INT to 12 and increasing CON by 1. This will give you potential for another 16-20 HP, +1 fort saves with a +3 CON tome.

Skills..skills... it''s always hard to choose.
For item-wearing purpose, I think UMD is kinda must.
Also to use Quickened Reconstruct + Reconstruct Scroll combo, concentration is nice to have too.
Besides that, it's up to people.

First I thought jump is nice to have since it's a class skill, but it caps at 35ish anyways so I don't bother with it anymore.
I'm more into Balance now, for added safety.

Or some people might want to have Intimidate (that some people is me lol).
It is easy to grab mobs before AoE if you have it.

+2 INT tome is nice. for sure I will decrease INT when I have one
However I had to show the build w/o +2 Tome to make it look like more attractive lol.

So.. yeah, I'll go with Intimidate. Though it's not a class skill, you can get a reasonable number thanks to high CHA.

[iruka41]

looks interesting. Have you tried it yet ? Im willing to give it a try.. wont be hard to lvl up. Didnt have that problem with your Fastest Nuker build. Getting a character slot open will be the hardest thing to do tho.. sigh

Wonder when to take ur lvl of monks tho ?? any ideas Gin ?

Thanks for the interest
Same problem here, no slot for more! lol.
I have a battleCleric build waiting for me on top of the queue, so I'm not sure when I can get another slot for this one.

About monk levels, I guess it doesn't matter much.
But personally I wouldn't put it at level 1, because then you can't pick a caster-feat.

[iruka41]

Yes, it does now.

Nice!

[MiniMindy]

ya not going monk at first lvl.. taking them at lvl 2 and 3 actually. So i can get that evasion early.

I somewhat understand why you took Intimidation, but i prefer gettting the aggro by running ahead of party. but considering to take it because i hate it when PUG waste a good firewall by fighting the mobs outside of it (that is when they take aggro away from me).

Thx for ur input Iruka