Help me save my TWF Drow fighter

[ddjunks]

I just recently returned to DDO and I'm still trying to find which of my old toons that haven't been touched for 16 months are still viable for end game.

I have an old Drow TWF level 10 fighter with the following starting stats.

16 STR (18 STR putting str at level 4 and 8)
16 DEX
14 CON
10 WIS
10 INT
10 CHA

It is a pure fighter. From the looks of fighter builds today, there seems to be no sense in going straight fighter. I'm thinking of muti-classing to a ranger/monk but I am worried about my 10 WIS. I do have enough shards to respec so if I go Ranger route, I know I have to drop TWF/IMP TWF first to save some feats. I'm thinking of mixing monk too for Evasion.

I also have a +5 mith BP to support this toon and a pair of puncturing rapier (too bad they aint wounding). I got a +6 WIS item too that I can get from my cleric.

Any advise will be appreciated.

Thanks,
ddjunks

[oogly54]

From the looks of fighter builds today, there seems to be no sense in going straight fighter.

This is a totally false statment. The higher we get in level the better it will be to have pure class build. Look at my fighter build (Oogly fighter), I am a Drow and I would challenge anyone in the pit in melee. I do more than my fair share of DPS, have high HPs and a high AC. I pull aggro and maintain aggro from many so called good ranger and barb builds all the time. Rangers do good DPS while TWF, but have low HPs and low AC. Not exactly a good combination. Usually means you die frequently. Barbs are great for DPS and have high HPs for survivability, but need a cleric strapped to there arse. The DEVs have already stated that fighters will be getting some love in the next MOD, and if it is like the weapons master specialty fighter class, fighters will take over the DPS arena as well.

[Angelus_dead]

This is a totally false statment. The higher we get in level the better it will be to have pure class build. Look at my fighter build (Oogly fighter), I am a Drow and I would challenge anyone in the pit in melee.

Nope, it's a true statement.

ANY fighter16 who changed to fig15/ran1 would get Favored Enemy Evil Outsider and start doing +3 damage on every important raid boss. (Or he could get Favored Elf and demolish you in pvp pits).

ANY fighter16 who changed to fig15/barb1 would have more hp, run faster, and get a rage that gives him +2 damage and attack rolls during every boss fight.

[Tomalon]

This is a totally false statment. The higher we get in level the better it will be to have pure class build. Look at my fighter build (Oogly fighter), I am a Drow and I would challenge anyone in the pit in melee. I do more than my fair share of DPS, have high HPs and a high AC. I pull aggro and maintain aggro from many so called good ranger and barb builds all the time. Rangers do good DPS while TWF, but have low HPs and low AC. Not exactly a good combination. Usually means you die frequently. Barbs are great for DPS and have high HPs for survivability, but need a cleric strapped to there arse. The DEVs have already stated that fighters will be getting some love in the next MOD, and if it is like the weapons master specialty fighter class, fighters will take over the DPS arena as well.

Not sure where you grew up but my ranger has a 40 str, 515 hp and 56 a/c while TWF and will out DPS just about anything in game. I think you need to take another look at ranger tempests...... just my 2 cents.

[CSFurious]

pure fighters who fight with 2 weapons are very gimped rangers especially a drow

anyone who reads & wants to defend their uber-fighter, feel free

i can hit the easy button & roll a dwarf tempest who will be crushing your build in dps in about 3 weeks

OP you should re-roll

later

[CSFurious]

newsflash

i have an elf tempest ranger 12 ranger/4 fighter who has 327 hitpoints, 32 str, 30 dex

only silly people would think that your drow twf would do more dps

This is a totally false statment. The higher we get in level the better it will be to have pure class build. Look at my fighter build (Oogly fighter), I am a Drow and I would challenge anyone in the pit in melee. I do more than my fair share of DPS, have high HPs and a high AC. I pull aggro and maintain aggro from many so called good ranger and barb builds all the time. Rangers do good DPS while TWF, but have low HPs and low AC. Not exactly a good combination. Usually means you die frequently. Barbs are great for DPS and have high HPs for survivability, but need a cleric strapped to there arse. The DEVs have already stated that fighters will be getting some love in the next MOD, and if it is like the weapons master specialty fighter class, fighters will take over the DPS arena as well.

[Tomalon]

newsflash

i have an elf tempest ranger 12 ranger/4 fighter who has 327 hitpoints, 32 str, 30 dex

only silly people would think that your drow twf would do more dps

I think oogly54 might need to re-roll

[ddjunks]

I have 6 levels left guys. Any tips on multi-classing?

[Angelus_dead]

I have 6 levels left guys. Any tips on multi-classing?

Since your dex is high, take 2-3 rogue levels for evasion and sneak attack (you'll need to wear light armor for that to work). Also take 1-2 ranger levels for favored enemy. After that, advance as any one of those classes.

[Tomalon]

I have 6 levels left guys. Any tips on multi-classing?

Sry to say but re-roll.

Dump the cha if you will not use umd and put the pts in to str or dex.

A great TWF build is 12/4 ranger/fighter dorf
Max out STR at build for max DPS (end game right now will be 40 str)
15 DEX (end game 28) great for the deliven suit out of dragon raid w/armor mastery
17 con (end game 28) over 500 hp
8 int
8 wis with tomes and items end game will be 16 still more then 400 sp more then you'll ever use
6 cha

this build will do sick damage with d-axes or heavy picks and you you'll get all the TWF feats free plus you can self heal/buff
great a/c also standign around should be in the 40's fully buffable to around mid/low 60

[Sue_Dark]

"Saving" your current build.....

As AD suggested, 2 rogue then the rest ranger.

2 rogue for evasion
4 levels of ranger will allow you to toss a few rams might spells per rest, which is a plus str spell that will stack with a +6 str item.

[ddjunks]

"Saving" your current build.....

As AD suggested, 2 rogue then the rest ranger.

2 rogue for evasion
4 levels of ranger will allow you to toss a few rams might spells per rest, which is a plus str spell that will stack with a +6 str item.

If I can get to 28 Dex and 18 WIS, is it more ok to get 2 levels of monk than rogue for Evasion and will saves? I have a +5 Mithril Breastplate for this guy. Does the 18 WIS warrants on getting the monk levels?

[Borror0]

Why not six levels of rangers for Tempest?

[Borror0]

This is a totally false statment. The higher we get in level the better it will be to have pure class build.

That's false. If not, prove me how.

Rangers do good DPS while TWF, but have low HPs and low AC..

False. Want me to show you a ranger build who will out AC my intimitank, have more HP than your fighter and out-DPS your fighter? There ya go.

[ddjunks]

Why not six levels of rangers for Tempest?

The Tempest build is only Fighter L8. I would go on that route but this toon is already Fighter 10.

[Geonis]

The Tempest build is only Fighter L8. I would go on that route but this toon is already Fighter 10.

Uh, Tempest is Ranger 6, 10 + 6 = 16.

[maddmatt70]

The Tempest build is only Fighter L8. I would go on that route but this toon is already Fighter 10.

huh. I agree the only way you could salvage this character currently is 6 ranger for tempest. 10 fighter 6 ranger is a pretty solid build. No other builds make any sense. The best option for you though is to probably roll up a new character and/or get to 1750 favor and roll up a 32 pt build character. You don't have to delete this character assuming you have extra character slots. You could keep him in the inactive/mule category on the oft chance something changes.

[ddjunks]

Uh, Tempest is Ranger 6, 10 + 6 = 16.

Can you send me the link please. Tempest Ranger by Illuminati I see is pure ranger.

[Borror0]

huh. I agree the only way you could salvage this character currently is 6 ranger for tempest. 10 fighter 6 ranger is a pretty solid build. No other builds make any sense.

Agreed.

The best option for you though is to probably roll up a new character and/or get to 1750 favor and roll up a 32 pt build character.

Why would he have to reroll? What is so sup-par in his build?

[Borror0]

Can you send me the link please. Tempest Ranger by Illuminati I see is pure ranger.

Tempest is an enhancement gotten by rangers at level 6. It increases your attack speed by 10%.

Prereqs are Dodge, Mobility and Spring Attack, from the top of my head.