For Icey

[Borror0]

Ok, so my buddy Icey asked me to help him build a tank.

He said that he needed something new and different from his rogue, cleric and sorcerer. He wanted something that could take a beating, but still deal a bit of DPS. and if possible AC. So sounded pretty much ranger/monk to me. I went with 13 ranger/2 monk/1 rogue. Two levels of monk to make every feat fit in, 1 level of rogue for UMD and Intimidate (hey, with crazy saves, high AC, Evasion and HP over 350 you can take a beating).

I tried to keep it low on the +2 tomes, 'cause I know he's fairly broke right now. Anyway, they can be eaten later on without any problem.

If you need help for gear allocation or enhancements, Icey, you know when to find me.

13 ranger/2 monk/1 rogue
Alignment: Lawful Neutral
Race: Dwarf

Stats:
16 Str + 4 level + 6 item + 2 Ram's = 28 Str
14 Dex + 3 enhancements + 6 item + 1 tome = 24 Dex
16 Con + 6 item + 2 enhancements + 2 favor tome = 26 Con
12 Int + 1 tome = 13 Int
12 Wis + 1 tome + 6 item + 1 enhancements = 20 Wis
9 Cha + 1 tome + 6 item = 16 Cha

• +2 Dex tome would help saving you 6 APs, so if you can get one it'd be great.
• +2 Str tome would up your DPS.

Feats:

• 1. Toughness
• 3. Combat Expertise (Monk feat)
• 6. Two-Weapon Defense (to be switched at high level)
• 8. Dodge (Monk)
• 9. Mobility (Monk)
• 9. Spring Attack
• 12. Improved Critical: Slashing
• 15. Power Attack

Start with 1 rogue.
Then, go for 6 levels of ranger.
Then take 2 levels of monk at level 8 and 9.
Then go 7 rangers.

This build is mostly there to tank, hence why PA is taken so late.

As for Favored Enemies, at end game, go for:

• Evil Outsiders
• Aberation
• Whatever you feel like taking for the third one, probably Contruct or Elemental for Shroud.

Armor Class:
10 Base
+7 Dexterity
+8 Armor (with Stone of Change ritual - becomes 9 if you get 8 AC bracer)
+2 Tempest
+1 Two-Weapon Defense
+8 Dodge (Icy Rainment, Chattering Ring, Dodge feat)
+4 Insight
+5 Wisdom
+5 Deflection
+1 AC (monk)
51 unbuffed AC (56 with Combat Expertise)
+5 Barkskin
+1 Dodge (Haste)
+4 Shield (Shield wand)
61 AC self-buffed (66 with Combat Expertise)
+3 Favored Defense
64 AC vs favored enemies (69 with Combat Exertise)

Skills:
Puts points into Jump.
Max Balance
Max Intimidate
Max UMD.

• UMD:
  
  19 Ranks
  3 Charisma bonus
  3 Golden Cartouche
  2 Head of Good Fortune
  4 Greater Heroism
  34 UMD
  
  
• Intimidate:
  19 Ranks
  3 Charisma bonus
  15 Intimidate Helm
  2 Head of Good Fortune
  4 Greater Heroism
  43 Intimidate

A crafted Cha skills item would but you at 37 UMD and 49 Intimidate.

Hit Points:
118 base
20 Heroic Durability
10 Draconic Vitality
128 Con
30 GFL
55 Toughness enhancements
18 Toughness
369 HP

Saving throws:

Base Saves:               +11    +13    +6
Enhanced abilites:        +8     +7     +5
Luck bonus:               +2     +2     +2 
DSD:                      +5     +5     +5
Resistance:               +5     +5     +5
Total Saves:             +31    +32    +23

So, with GH, it's 35/36/27. Awesome saves. Might be a bit lower in real, but oh well, still really high.

So, guys, let me know if you find any big mistakes. And Icey, hope you like it.

[maddmatt70]

Looks good except I wouldn't take two weapon defense. Some other better options include improved crit piercing, oversized twf, toughness, etc.. I actually think improved crit piercing would be fun for banishers and w/p ers..

[Xithos]

Quick question on the AC: I was wondering what kind of weapons he was planning on using. If he went slashing to use kamas then he stays centered and should get the +1 monk bonus to AC. However, if he uses something else I think he loses that +1 Monk bonus but I could be wrong. Also, maybe think of a feat other than Two-Weapon Defense; its not terrible, but I think there are other feats worth considering.

[Borror0]

Looks good except I wouldn't take two weapon defense. Some other better options include improved crit piercing, oversized twf, toughness, etc..

I think he should keep it until he gets Chattering Ring and his Shroud item done, but then, yeah switching it would make some sense.

I actually think improved crit piercing would be fun for banishers and w/p ers..

If Icey ever gets a w/p, it'll go on his rogue. But yeah, if he would have the gear, that would be a logical choice.

Btw, Alignment will be Lawful Neutral.

[Borror0]

Quick question on the AC: I was wondering what kind of weapons he was planning on using. If he went slashing to use kamas then he stays centered and should get the +1 monk bonus to AC. However, if he uses something else I think he loses that +1 Monk bonus but I could be wrong. Also, maybe think of a feat other than Two-Weapon Defense; its not terrible, but I think there are other feats worth considering.

You're wrong. In both PnP and DDO, you don't need to be centered for that. Just not Shield and no Armor.

AC Bonus (Ex)

When unarmored and unencumbered, the monk adds her Wisdom bonus (if any) to her AC. In addition, a monk gains a +1 bonus to AC at 5th level. This bonus increases by 1 for every five monk levels thereafter (+2 at 10th, +3 at 15th, and +4 at 20th level).

These bonuses to AC apply even against touch attacks or when the monk is flat-footed. She loses these bonuses when she is immobilized or helpless, when she wears any armor, when she carries a shield, or when she carries a medium or heavy load.

Armor Class Bonus (passive): While unarmored and not using a shield monks gain a passive bonus to Armor Class equal to their Wisdom modifier if their Wisdom modifier is positive. As you increase in power, you will receive additional bonuses to Armor Class at level 5, 10 and 15.

[Artierius]

Here is alittle something different, instead of just another ranger build.....:]

http://forums.ddo.com/showthread.php?t=153840

[Xithos]

You're wrong. In both PnP and DDO, you don't need to be centered for that. Just not Shield and no Armor.

Good to know; glad I included the caveat "I could be wrong" and the SRD is pretty worthless in regards to DDO Anyway, I am still plugging the lose Two-Weapon Defense for something useful like khopesh or Imp:Crit Pierce.

[Borror0]

SRD is pretty worthless in regards to DDO

Not totally, show how it should be. If it doesn't follow SRD, we can complain.

Anyway, I am still plugging the lose Two-Weapon Defense for something useful like khopesh or Imp:Crit Pierce.

I'm not a lover of khopesh on a dwarf.

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

Looks good except I wouldn't take two weapon defense. Some other better options include improved crit piercing, oversized twf, toughness, etc.. I actually think improved crit piercing would be fun for banishers and w/p ers..

Agreed on this one--1 AC just isn't worth the feat when you have so many other good options (Dodge of course being an exception as a prereq for tempest).

[Borror0]

Agreed on this one--1 AC just isn't worth the feat when you have so many other good options (Dodge of course being an exception as a prereq for tempest).

I'll make him switch later on.

[Artierius]

Borro,

How about going 12 ranger / 3 monk / 1 rogue

Extra monk gets you same BaB and saves and HP's still...plus one more feat...and the monk enhancement of 10% greater healing if you wanted.

Just a suggestion

[Borror0]

Extra monk gets you same BaB and saves still...plus one more feat...and the monk enhancement of 10% greater healing if you wanted

Extra feats are at 1, 2 and 6.
You loose out of Favored Damage and the fourth Favored Enemy when they raise the cap to 18.

[Artierius]

Used to be levels 1,2,3 and 6.....guess the main page is wrong again...:\

[maddmatt70]

I dont have a monk so I am not an authority on the subject but according to the compedium monks get bonus feats at 1,2,3,6.. If this is the case and they add a bunch of quality feats in the future an 11 ranger/3 monk/4 fighter could be fun when the cap goes to 18..

[Artierius]

You loose out of Favored Damage and the fourth Favored Enemy when they raise the cap to 18.[/QUOTE]

Yes you do lose out at level 18 ,,,but you get it back at 19....get it sooner or get it later....you make the call.

[Borror0]

Yes you do lose out at level 18 ,,,but you get it back at 19....get it sooner or get it later....you make the call.

But you loose on Favored Damage at level 17, if it's there. HiPS if it's cool. Monk will be a consideration, but +10% healing doesn't cut it for me.

[Borror0]

I dont have a monk so I am not an authority on the subject but according to the compedium monks get bonus feats at 1,2,3,6.

Actually, where the Compendium is wrong, is that they put the two Philosophies into the same category as martial art feats. I vould be wrong, but I'm totally sure you can't get get any martial art feat at level 3!!

EDIT: And the builds on the forums and the chracter planner goes in my direction. DDOwiki 1, DDO Compendium 0

Oh, and so does this article.

[Artierius]

But you loose on Favored Damage at level 17, if it's there. HiPS if it's cool. Monk will be a consideration, but +10% healing doesn't cut it for me.

I agree with all this, however we don't know what there going to give us in the future, and also this is the price we pay for multiclassing. If we could see what the next two levels worth of enhancements are and feats...I'm sure we could make our choices all the way to 20 then........but, we are like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed **** all day....:]

[Borror0]

I agree with all this, however we don't know what there going to give us in the future, and also this is the price we pay for multiclassing. If we could see what the next two levels worth of enhancements are and feats...I'm sure we could make our choices all the way to 20 then........but, we are like mushrooms, kept in the dark and fed **** all day....:]

Anyway, 13 ranger (and 15 rangers) beats +10% healing.

[InfidelofHaLL]

u might also try a 12 ranger/3rogue/1monk build