Portal DPS

[dior10276]

I hit pretty good with my 2 handed barb. transmuting of pure good works well for me.

My dex fighter uses adoryn's malice and a gr constract bane long sword. Does good considering low strength.

[Solmage]

I hit pretty good with my 2 handed barb. transmuting of pure good works well for me.

My dex fighter uses adoryn's malice and a gr constract bane long sword. Does good considering low strength.

Keep in mind that vs portals, transmuting of pure good works exactly the same as "plain jane" of pure good. In other words, transmuting isn't doing anything vs portals. Might as well take out a +5 true chaos of pure good instead, it would do more.

Obviously, favored enemy construct murderizes the poor innocent portals

[Quebert]

Pure good, transmuting, greensteel and others stack right?

[tihocan]

Pure good, transmuting, greensteel and others stack right?

Sorry but this question does not make sense, what do you mean exactly?

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

if true chaos works then anarchic burst should work

No, the portals are true neutral. True Law, True Chaos, and Pure Good all work though, along with tier II good/evil bursts on shroud weps.

[Impaqt]

No, the portals are true neutral. True Law, True Chaos, and Pure Good all work though, along with tier II good/evil bursts on shroud weps.

True Law Does not.....

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

True Law Does not.....

Ah, never tried it myself, just assumed that as constructs they would be true neutral and therefore true law would work. Teach me to not make assumptions

[gamblerjoe]

[QUOTE=transtemporal;1792251]Or is it better to grab a two-handed weapon to get the extra benefit from PA and use that instead of TW?[QUOTE]

if you compare dual weilding vanilla weapons to a vanilla 2-hander against a normal mob, the dps is 'supposed' to be the same (assume both are str builds, power attacking, and optimally built.) the glancing blows are balanced by the fact that the dual weilder is swinging a little faster than the 2-1 ratio they would otherwise need to equal the dps.

against a portal, the dual weilder is going to lose more dps to hardness than the 2-hander. However, Gr. Bane adds 15.5 damage on average:

3d6 + 4 --> ( 3 + 18 ) / 2 + 4 = 15.5

this is pretty much a wash with the portals hardness, which brings us back to the origional comparison, except that now the glancing blows are nerfed. i suppose this gives a slight lead to the dual wielder. also, if the tanks in question are weilding true chaos gr bane weapons, this gives another slight bump to the dual weilder.

the difference however is trivial, and in general, its a high str and good gear that is going to get the portals down fast.

[feynman]

While I'm at it... is Harry a Lawful Outsider or an Evil Outsider for the purposes of things like favored enemy/bane?

Yes.

[Tanka]

Damage that works on the Portals:

Vicious (untyped)
Force (Greenblade tested and confirmed personally)
Bane
True Chaos
Pure Good (or is it only PG Burst from second Pos?)
Maiming (on crits only)

I believe that's all of them.

There's some debate as to whether True Law works or not, I haven't tested it personally, but if the portal is True Neutral, then True Law should work. If it isn't, bug report it, because if they're Lawful then Anarchic should work (which is reported to not be working).

[Zenako]

Yup Ranger dual wielding Greater Construct Banes with FE Construct (at the moment) and decent STR and Ranger Str Spell can do some nice chopping on those puppies. With their AC being a non factor, just grab the first two one handed Greater Construct Bane weapons you find. Losing a few (or more) points on hit prob is a non issue.

[Guildmaster_Kadish]

While I'm at it... is Harry a Lawful Outsider or an Evil Outsider for the purposes of things like favored enemy/bane?

Devils = LE, Demons = CE

[Hence]

To finish answering the OP's questions:

While the portals are immune to critical hits, that means only your base damage is not going to be multiplied when you hit the portal. Any weapon with an "On Crit" effect will still process and hit even though your critical hit is resisted.

A caster used to be able to cast the spell "Enfeebling" on the portals to make them auto-crit. This would help weapons like Maiming or Good Burst, but still would not allow the base damage to be multiplied. This has been fixed and no longer works.

Consider a two-hander with power attack to be the best weapon, because your strength bonus gets doubled and being a Barbarian you have a lot of strength.

The best weapon to attack the portals IMHO, would be a crafted Greensteel Greataxe: First tier use water (Anything), Second tier use Good Burst, third tier dual shard water/good with +2 strength and Steam. That would be a: +6 Good Burst Greataxe of Steam.

As far as other weapons What Works: True Chaos, Pure Good, Maiming, Construct Bane, Good Burst, Vicious, Force.
Nothing else works.

[Naso24]

I have to disagree with the THF vs TWF arguments.

You cannot look at the damage per swing, you have to take into account the attack rate as well. I've tried using (power attach on both) a great axe and a mix on two one-handed weapons, all greater construct bane. I definitely see more damage go up using two weapons.

I think it really comes down to what feats you have. If you have the THF chain, a two-hander is probably your best weapon. If you have the TWF chain, two weapons are probably your best shot.

I don't have any characters with both feat chains.

Given that, the best weapon is a high bonus (+5) greater construct bane with an alignment kicker (ex: +5 true chaos dwarven axe of greater construct bane).

My best damage rate is on my ranger with a +3 true chaos kama of greater construct bane, with FE construct with enhancements, GTWF, haste, power attack, rogue haste boost (1 level), rage, madstone rage, double madstone rage, prayer, and bard song. I don't remember what the other weapon is, but it is also a greater construct bane.

[transtemporal]

Thanks for all of the great info folks. I have a +5 addy gtr construct bane greataxe in the back so I might test that out too when I get high enough. In PnP, adamantine weapons ignore hardness less than 20. I assume it doesn't have this attribute in DDO?

[Tanka]

Thanks for all of the great info folks. I have a +5 addy gtr construct bane greataxe in the back so I might test that out too when I get high enough. In PnP, adamantine weapons ignore hardness less than 20. I assume it doesn't have this attribute in DDO?

Correct. In DDO, the only thing that bypasses an object's DR is the type of damage listed after the / (or Transmuting).

If the DR is /-, nothing bypasses it. Period.

[transtemporal]

Correct. In DDO, the only thing that bypasses an object's DR is the type of damage listed after the / (or Transmuting).

If the DR is /-, nothing bypasses it. Period.

Ack. OK, thanks Tanka.

[Aranticus]

tested effect in portal

true chaos - damage done
true law - no damage
anarchic - no damage
axiomatic - no damage
pure good - damage done
holy - no damage

deduction
true chaos work = portal is not chaotic
anarchic does not work = portal is not lawful
therefore, portal has to be neutral, but....
true law does not work! = BUGGED

pure good work = portal is not good
holy does not work = portal is not evil
thus portal is neutral

alignment of portal is BUGGED NEUTRAL