new monk with build questions

[koganinja]

So i am close to getting my 32point build, and i have been playing around with some 28pt monks to get a feal for the class and a feel for what types of monks i like. I didnt realy like the high dex finess build, but did find a liking to the str/con build. I did tomes based on what i have from leveling my ranger up.

I couldnt realy get the equipment part to work, but i will have a +6 str drx con and wiz item for my monk and a GFL and ac+6 bracer ready for him as he gets higher.

i'm not fully sure about my feat and enhancements that i went with, i know i can change them if i dont like how they work out, but i was wondering what some of you other monks felt about this setup

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Level 16 Lawful Good Human Male
(16 Monk) 
Hit Points: 286
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 13
Will: 14

                  Starting            Ending          
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats        
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)        
Strength             16                 21            
Dexterity            14                 16            
Constitution         15                 17            
Intelligence         10                 10            
Wisdom               14                 14            
Charisma              8                  8            

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1
+2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 13

                  Starting            Ending          
                 Base Skills        Base Skills       
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)        
Balance               6                 22            
Bluff                -1                 -1            
Concentration         7                 23            
Diplomacy            -1                 -1            
Disable Device        n/a               n/a           
Haggle               -1                 -1            
Heal                  2                  4            
Hide                  2                  3            
Intimidate           -1                 -1            
Jump                  7                 24            
Listen                2                  4            
Move Silently         2                  3            
Open Lock             n/a               n/a           
Perform              n/a               n/a            
Repair                0                  0            
Search                0                  0            
Spot                  6                 23            
Swim                  3                  5            
Tumble                6                 22            
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a            

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Diehard
Feat: (Human Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
Enhancement: Disciple of Pebbles
Enhancement: Disciple of Candles
Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 4 (Monk)
Enhancement: Human Versatility II
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I


Level 5 (Monk)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Mobility
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 7 (Monk)
Enhancement: Adept of Wind
Enhancement: Adept of Flame
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 8 (Monk)
Enhancement: Adept of Rock
Enhancement: Adept of Rain


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Spring Attack
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 10 (Monk)
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose III


Level 11 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires


Level 13 (Monk)
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Wisdom II


Level 14 (Monk)
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose IV


Level 16 (Monk)
Enhancement: Restoring the Balance
Enhancement: Master of Thunder

Also i am thinking of dropping int back to 8 and making wis or dex up to 15 (i went 10int so i could leel up spot because i like having spot so i know when traps and such are comming since i dont know all the quests that well)

thanks for the input in advance.

[Angelus_dead]

i'm not fully sure about my feat and enhancements that i went with, i know i can change them if i dont like how they work out, but i was wondering what some of you other monks felt about this setup

Your feats listed are:
Diehard
a lot of Toughness
Dodge, Mobility, Spring Attack
Bludgeon Focus, Bludgeon Crit

I suggest:
Don't take Diehard.
Don't take a lot of Toughness. Maybe don't even take 1 toughness.
Don't take Mobility and Spring Attack.
Probably don't take Bludgeon focus.

Instead take things like Power Attack, Cleave, Stunning Blow...

[gamingking1975]

don't take all the adept of enhancements only take the one your planning on focusing on like Adept of the sun and master of bonfires forget all the other adepts and master's definitely take the disciples of all four so you can then get your curative abilities for each of the different disciplines, and thus be able to take rise of the phoenix and be able to cast raise dead on your cleric when/if they end up a ghost. each disciple costs 1 AP, each curative ability costs 2 AP and raise dead costs 4 AP and will cost you 50 ki and 50 hp per cast so save those meditates for when you need to used wholeness of body or rise of the phoenix.

As for the toughness dont take any toughness till you have all the other feats you want first like cleave, dodge, die hard (has saved my hide on numerous occasions when i stupidly ran into a fight without my group), weap. focus bludgeoning (+1 to attack with unarmed), imp. crit. bludge (doubles threat range of unarmed, best for smiting/disrupting/banishing handwraps critical chance), it easier to tell what feats to take when while your looking at your list at the time of leveling .... remember Kogas, Valcorik is always willing to help you figure things out since he was one of the 1st lvl 16 PURE Monks on the server and first in the "Old Timers Guild" on Ghallanda. Remember that I also played at least 5 or 6 different monk builds on Risia to lvl 6+ testing out different pure/multi-class builds before taking it to the live servers on introduction.

[Mhalak]

Cleave is amazing for Ki generation, especially since you're a strength based monk and will most likely be in fire stance.

Wisdom > Dex for a strength based build. Both Dex & Wisdom will be used for AC, both effect saves, but wisdom also is used for your special attacks DC.

[koganinja]

ok, so i made some changes to what i had and was wondering if this looks better

Character Plan by DDO Character Planner Version 2.96
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Level 16 Lawful Good Human Male
(16 Monk) 
Hit Points: 268
Spell Points: 0 
BAB: 12\12\17\22
Fortitude: 14
Reflex: 12
Will: 14

                  Starting            Ending          
Abilities        Base Stats         Base Stats        
(32 Point)       (Level 1)          (Level 16)        
Strength             16                 21            
Dexterity            14                 14            
Constitution         15                 17            
Intelligence          8                  8            
Wisdom               15                 15            
Charisma              8                  8            

Tomes Used
+1 Tome of Strength used at level 1
+2 Tome of Constitution used at level 1

                  Starting            Ending          
                 Base Skills        Base Skills       
Skills           (Level 1)          (Level 16)        
Balance               6                 21            
Bluff                -1                 -1            
Concentration         7                 23            
Diplomacy            -1                 -1            
Disable Device       n/a               n/a            
Haggle               -1                 -1            
Heal                  2                  4            
Hide                  2                  2            
Intimidate           -1                 -1            
Jump                  7                 24            
Listen                2                  4            
Move Silently         2                  2            
Open Lock             n/a               n/a           
Perform              n/a               n/a            
Repair               -1                 -1            
Search               -1                 -1            
Spot                  2                  4            
Swim                  3                  5            
Tumble                6                 21            
Use Magic Device     n/a               n/a            

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Diehard
Feat: (Human Bonus) Dodge
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Power Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Attack
Feat: (Automatic) Defensive Fighting
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Kama
Feat: (Automatic) Exotic Weapon Proficiency: Shuriken
Feat: (Automatic) Finishing Moves
Feat: (Automatic) Flurry of Blows
Feat: (Automatic) Heroic Durability
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Damage
Feat: (Automatic) Martial Weapon Proficiency: Handaxe
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Club
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Dagger
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Heavy Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Light Crossbow
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Quarterstaff
Feat: (Automatic) Simple Weapon Proficiency: Unarmed
Feat: (Automatic) Sneak
Feat: (Automatic) Sunder
Feat: (Automatic) Trip
Feat: (Automatic) Unarmed Strike
Enhancement: Disciple of Breezes
Enhancement: Disciple of Pebbles
Enhancement: Disciple of Candles
Enhancement: Disciple of Puddles


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Evasion
Feat: (Automatic) Meditation
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Human Versatility I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose I


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Cleave
Feat: (Automatic) Fast Movement
Feat: (Automatic) Still Mind
Enhancement: Fists of Light
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom I


Level 4 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Magic
Feat: (Automatic) Slow Fall
Enhancement: Lifting the Veil
Enhancement: The Receptive Earth


Level 5 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) AC Bonus
Feat: (Automatic) Purity of Body
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Constitution I
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose II


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist
Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
Enhancement: Restoring the Balance
Enhancement: Adept of Flame


Level 7 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Wholeness of Body
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery I
Enhancement: Difficulty at the Beginning


Level 8 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom II


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Toughness
Feat: (Automatic) Improved Evasion
Enhancement: Rise of the Phoenix


Level 10 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Lawful
Enhancement: Human Improved Recovery II


Level 11 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Body
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose III


Level 12 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
Feat: (Automatic) Abundant Step
Enhancement: Monk Wisdom III


Level 13 (Monk)
Feat: (Automatic) Diamond Soul
Enhancement: Human Adaptability Dexterity II


Level 14 (Monk)
Enhancement: Master of Bonfires


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
Feat: (Automatic) Quivering Palm
Enhancement: Monk Improved Recovery II


Level 16 (Monk)
Ability Raise: STR
Feat: (Automatic) Ki Strike: Adamantine
Enhancement: Way of the Patient Tortiose IV
Enhancement: Monk Concentration I