Some questions

[Leyoni]

According to the spell descriptions the feats maximize and empower work on cure spells. Is it worth the mana to use these, do they stack with empower healing?

Does slay living work on things like the beholders in Von? Can it be used as a clerical PK equivalent there ane in other quests?

[Korvek]

According to the spell descriptions the feats maximize and empower work on cure spells. Is it worth the mana to use these, do they stack with empower healing?

Does slay living work on things like the beholders in Von? Can it be used as a clerical PK equivalent there ane in other quests?

Maximize and Empower work on Cure spells, but not Heal. I can't really comment on their effectiveness, though they do stack with empower healing.

Slay Living can work on beholders, but it's a very close range, so you'll probably be caught in their antimagic field. Because of it's close range, it's not quite as useful as PK.

[Leyoni]

Slay Living can work on beholders, but it's a very close range, so you'll probably be caught in their antimagic field. Because of it's close range, it's not quite as useful as PK.

Can it be enlarged to increase the range?

[ShadowFox1978]

Can it be enlarged to increase the range?

Yes, it can be enlarged. But enlarge is a hard spell to fit on a cleric, unless you are going asa pure caster. If you can get a fighter to grab beholder aggro and turn it away from you, you can just walk up behind the beholder and use slay living.

[richieelias27]

Beholder rays fire off in 360 degrees. Getting behind them isnt always a safe thing to do.

[Leyoni]

Thx for the info.

Is it more economical just to use quicken so that you spam the cure spells faster instead of using maximize/empower/empower healing?

Or, it that too enhancement and feat intensive?

Thx again.

[ShadowFox1978]

Beholder rays fire off in 360 degrees. Getting behind them isnt always a safe thing to do.

They do not fire off in 360 arcs. Anti-magic is only in front of the beholder. Each side of a beholder casts certain effects. See MrCows thread. If you know what you are looking for it isn't that big a problem.

[ShadowFox1978]

Thx for the info.

Is it more economical just to use quicken so that you spam the cure spells faster instead of using maximize/empower/empower healing?

Or, it that too enhancement and feat intensive?

Thx again.

Quicken doesn't make you cast faster. It makes it so your spells can't be inturrupted(unless yoy get knocked down or stunned) and you don't have to make concentration checks. The cooldown timer is still the same. Every meta has a time and place, it just takes practice to learn when to use what.

[bandyman1]

Quicken doesn't make you cast faster. It makes it so your spells can't be inturrupted(unless yoy get knocked down or stunned) and you don't have to make concentration checks. The cooldown timer is still the same. Every meta has a time and place, it just takes practice to learn when to use what.

Umm...Quicken DOES make you cast faster.

You're right about the cooldown being the same, but it shortens the animations on your castings. Try throwing a regular blade barrier, and then throw a quickened one, and you'll see what I mean.

Everything else you've wrote here is spot on though.

[Leyoni]

Quicken doesn't make you cast faster. It makes it so your spells can't be inturrupted(unless yoy get knocked down or stunned) and you don't have to make concentration checks. The cooldown timer is still the same. Every meta has a time and place, it just takes practice to learn when to use what.

Is that broken? According to the description "spells cast faster" (this along with the cannot be interrupted bit). There has been discussion in the past about quicken speeding up spells in the sorcerer forums. Are you sure that it doesn't make you cast faster?

[ShadowFox1978]

Is that broken? According to the description "spells cast faster" (this along with the cannot be interrupted bit). There has been discussion in the past about quicken speeding up spells in the sorcerer forums. Are you sure that it doesn't make you cast faster?

Have never actually tested it, but I am only interested in the uninteruptable part. But I have been thinking about it, and I think it does cast the spell faster. However the animation still take sthe same time. Example: BB normally is cast at the end of the animation. With quicken it is cast just before you raise your arms. So yes, I would have to say it casts the spell faster, but for practical purposes there is no change(casting animation takes the same time and you can't cast another spell until the animation ends.)

[Inspire]

Have never actually tested it, but I am only interested in the uninteruptable part. But I have been thinking about it, and I think it does cast the spell faster. However the animation still take sthe same time. Example: BB normally is cast at the end of the animation. With quicken it is cast just before you raise your arms. So yes, I would have to say it casts the spell faster, but for practical purposes there is no change(casting animation takes the same time and you can't cast another spell until the animation ends.)

Indeed Casting Time Is Faster, And You Cannot Be Interrupted, Except If You Are Feebleminded, Bewilderd, In An Anti-Magic Field, Etc Etc. In The Process.

[samho]

Have never actually tested it, but I am only interested in the uninteruptable part. But I have been thinking about it, and I think it does cast the spell faster. However the animation still take sthe same time. Example: BB normally is cast at the end of the animation. With quicken it is cast just before you raise your arms. So yes, I would have to say it casts the spell faster, but for practical purposes there is no change(casting animation takes the same time and you can't cast another spell until the animation ends.)

Quicken will shorten your casting time and casting animation, the only thing it will not change was the spell (what you are casting) cold down timer and the movement speed when you are casting; However, because you cast spell twice as fast, you only move half the length you normally need to complete the spell casting then back to normal movement speed.

Once the animation done, you can cast next spell -- So a normal blade barrier take like 4 sec or so to finish casting, a quicken blade barrier take 2 sec to complete and you can cast another spell immediately.


Strongly suggest you test it again

[transtemporal]

According to the spell descriptions the feats maximize and empower work on cure spells. Is it worth the mana to use these, do they stack with empower healing?

Yes, they do stack with empower healing on all cure spells, but not the Heal spell. You can get some crazy good numbers. All 3 is total overkill (and too expensive) for trash mob fights and probably overkill for boss fights too. I got by just using maximise and only turned it on during boss fights. Gave me a fairly viable nuking option if I need it too.

I might consider retaking empower heal if I start meeting tanks that can't be healed from 0 to 100 in two shots. So far at 14, I haven't.