My take on Mod 7 - that was your Ftr love...

[Cold_Stele]

In the end it makes no sense that twf outdamages THF by so much now.

Agreed 100%, but that's where we are.

Another reason why TWF is especially good for Ftrs in the great Ftr vs Barb debate - many/most Barbs don't take Barb PA enhancements with TWF as 'to hit' drops through the floor, allowing Ftrs to catch up some. THF Barb vs Ftr the Ftr gets smoked every time, due to a combination of the Barb PA along with Crit Rage enhancements.

But - I'll still be a gimped Ranger, only with Intimidate

[Vorn]

If the dwarven requirement for (dwarven) defender isn't gong to be a requirement, will the alignment restrictions for the kensai and pdk also be waived, ponders the chaotic good elven fighter?

[ShadowFox1978]

They sound good, but all it means is Mod 9 will herald the reign of the14/6(Barb/Kensai).

[Tanka]

They sound good, but all it means is Mod 9 will herald the reign of the14/6(Barb/Kensai).

Kensai here will be an Enhancement, not a Class.

[Cold_Stele]

Certainly the prediction of Barb 14/Ranger 6 being the build of the future could be in jeopardy, depending upon what Ftr 6 gets you...

Ah well, I'm too far gone with mine to change now.

[ShadowFox1978]

Kensai here will be an Enhancement, not a Class.

I know that. But if it follows precedent, it will require 6 levels of fighter. Hence, the barb/kensai comment.

[maddmatt70]

What I would really like to see is a turn of events in ddo. When the new barbarian prestige classess come out (that may also come out in mod9) I would like to see some fighter 14 barbarian 6 builds because the fighter 14 enhancements were so sweet that would rock.

[ShadowFox1978]

That would be interesting, but the problem with that is the barb enhancements. They are heavily loaded to the mid-levels for crit rage. The fighter enhancements would have to be equally game-breaking to make a 14/6 split go in favor of the fighter.

[Angelus_dead]

Kensai is likely to be weapon specific, like the M8 Improved Weapon Specialization set of fighter enhancements.

Hopefully you'll take this opportunity to introduce some diversity to the list of viable weapons by having a variety of per-weapon Kensai types that provide different bonuses depending on the weapon picked.

In particular, Khopseh Kensai should gain a lot less than Bastard Kensai does. Right now there's only 2-4 effective weapons a high-level fighter can elect to use.

[Angelus_dead]

Kensai here will be an Enhancement, not a Class.

Yes, but it's an enhancement that requires some number of fighter levels.

Just like the Barb14/Tempest6 build.

[Tanka]

Sure, sure. But you almost never list yourself as 14 Barb/6 Tempest.

[Aesop]

Hopefully you'll take this opportunity to introduce some diversity to the list of viable weapons by having a variety of per-weapon Kensai types that provide different bonuses depending on the weapon picked.

In particular, Khopseh Kensai should gain a lot less than Bastard Kensai does. Right now there's only 2-4 effective weapons a high-level fighter can elect to use.

I'm noting the mention of Fighter Weapon Spec enhancements and am extremely curious about those... what are they and have they been mentioned elsewhere that i missed?

Aesop

[Tanka]

I'm noting the mention of Fighter Weapon Spec enhancements and am extremely curious about those... what are they and have they been mentioned elsewhere that i missed?

Aesop

AFAIK, they haven't been mentioned until now.

[Coldin]

I'm noting the mention of Fighter Weapon Spec enhancements and am extremely curious about those... what are they and have they been mentioned elsewhere that i missed?

Aesop

I believe this is the first time they've been mentioned at all. But if I was to take a guess, if a Figher has Weapon Specialization, then they can take a line of enhancements that add +2-4 damage when using that weapon. It might be a bit more generalized to apply to all slashing or all piercing.

[Aesop]

I believe this is the first time they've been mentioned at all. But if I was to take a guess, if a Figher has Weapon Specialization, then they can take a line of enhancements that add +2-4 damage when using that weapon. It might be a bit more generalized to apply to all slashing or all piercing.

maybe or it could be choose a weapon in the category and apply a few benefits...

Might be damage or it may be something else...

or even a few something elses.

[MysticTheurge]

Something I wanna know, and I don't want to be picky, but do they even have Purple Dragon Knights in Eberron. I thought they were from Cormyr... in the Forgotten Realms?

Purple Dragon Knights are tied up in the Lore of Forgotten Realms, but it shouldn't be that hard to modify the lore a bit to fit better into Eberron.

I do hope Eladrin picks a slightly different name for them, though, given that PDK is so closely tied to Cormyr.

[Aesop]

Purple Dragon Knights are tied up in the Lore of Forgotten Realms, but it shouldn't be that hard to modify the lore a bit to fit better into Eberron.

I do hope Eladrin picks a slightly different name for them, though, given that PDK is so closely tied to Cormyr.

I hope he goes with MDK

Magenta Dragon Knights... or Murder Death Kill

[geoffhanna]

One thing I wish would be brought in, as well as many other Fighters, is a Tactics PrE. Having to use +10 Trip/Stun items on Elite content really takes out options in terms of weapons -- it means using something junky of Weighted 5%/something equally junky of Vertigo +10 over your Lightning 2/Mineral 2 dual-wield combo.

I agree. But I don't know a Prestige Class that would best fit the model of a tactics fighter.

[The_Phenx]

20th level. Next attribute increase is 20.

Lol I can multiply

[binnsr]

I agree. But I don't know a Prestige Class that would best fit the model of a tactics fighter.

I started a tactics fighter, but quit leveling him because tactics are useless against all the bosses ... and everything else is such a zergfest that it seemed pointless to try focusing on it ...

If bosses just had good saves, etc. and there was at least a chance that trip/stun/sunder/etc. would work on them, I'd reconsider..

That poor fellow has since been replaced by my 4th intimitank